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    At Least 30g of Fish Oil Daily?

    The Top 5 Supplements to Gain Muscle Mass
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    In many seminars, I always get asked which supplements are best to gain mass. My answers will surprise many of you.

    Here they are:

    1. Fish Oil

    What? Fish oil? That is not cool, avant-garde, sexy, or exotic. Fish oil?

    Yes. Fish oil. You cannot be anabolic without enough Omega 3s. For example, I was once training a first-round pick for the NFL. He put on 29 lbs of lean body mass in one month once I jacked his fish oil intake to 45 grams a day. If you want to put muscle on and lose fat, take at least 30 grams of fish oil a day.

    Additional reasons for using fish oil include:

    It reduces inflammation.
    It improves insulin sensitivity: makes glucose and amino acids get better in your starved muscle cells.
    Taking fish oil in a liquid form is the most economical way of doing it. But taking them every meal works best. I always recommend a combination of liquid and capsules - Liquid for home meals, and capsules for away from home meals.

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    Originally Posted by CAMPAIGN View Post
    The Top 5 Supplements to Gain Muscle Mass
    by Charles Poliquin

    In many seminars, I always get asked which supplements are best to gain mass. My answers will surprise many of you.

    Here they are:

    1. Fish Oil

    What? Fish oil? That is not cool, avant-garde, sexy, or exotic. Fish oil?

    Yes. Fish oil. You cannot be anabolic without enough Omega 3s. For example, I was once training a first-round pick for the NFL. He put on 29 lbs of lean body mass in one month once I jacked his fish oil intake to 45 grams a day. If you want to put muscle on and lose fat, take at least 30 grams of fish oil a day.

    Additional reasons for using fish oil include:

    It reduces inflammation.
    It improves insulin sensitivity: makes glucose and amino acids get better in your starved muscle cells.
    Taking fish oil in a liquid form is the most economical way of doing it. But taking them every meal works best. I always recommend a combination of liquid and capsules - Liquid for home meals, and capsules for away from home meals.

    I received this article in a newsletter from another site, just interested to hear some opinions on this.
    1. he sells fish oil
    2. the bolded statement above should make you stop reading anything immediately and junk it.
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    Originally Posted by CAMPAIGN View Post
    The Top 5 Supplements to Gain Muscle Mass
    by Charles Poliquin

    In many seminars, I always get asked which supplements are best to gain mass. My answers will surprise many of you.

    Here they are:

    1. Fish Oil

    What? Fish oil? That is not cool, avant-garde, sexy, or exotic. Fish oil?

    Yes. Fish oil. You cannot be anabolic without enough Omega 3s. For example, I was once training a first-round pick for the NFL. He put on 29 lbs of lean body mass in one month once I jacked his fish oil intake to 45 grams a day. If you want to put muscle on and lose fat, take at least 30 grams of fish oil a day.

    Additional reasons for using fish oil include:

    It reduces inflammation.
    It improves insulin sensitivity: makes glucose and amino acids get better in your starved muscle cells.
    Taking fish oil in a liquid form is the most economical way of doing it. But taking them every meal works best. I always recommend a combination of liquid and capsules - Liquid for home meals, and capsules for away from home meals.

    I received this article in a newsletter from another site, just interested to hear some opinions on this.


    Whoever recommends 30g of fish oil on a daily basis is a moron.
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    Originally Posted by Cable Curling CincoUno View Post
    1. he sells fish oil
    2. the bolded statement above should make you stop reading anything immediately and junk it.
    Agreed. I read that line and was like wtf?
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    Fish oil is a good supp but the claims and advice in this are plain stupid.
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    Agreed. I read that line and was like wtf?
    if polliquin didn't turn into such a douchey marketer/supplement pusher he really could be an extremely valuable resource.
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    Originally Posted by Cable Curling CincoUno View Post
    if polliquin didn't turn into such a douchey marketer/supplement pusher he really could be an extremely valuable resource.
    Screw you!!1!!

    I'm gonna do this AND take 50g glutamine post-workout. Someone call hugeville and let them know i'm on my way.
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    Originally Posted by Robboe View Post
    Screw you!!1!!

    I'm gonna do this AND take 50g glutamine post-workout. Someone call hugeville and let them know i'm on my way.
    Post some before and after pics man your gonna be huge!

    I have gone up to 10g a day and it seemed to improve my skin and helped out the joints.
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    Originally Posted by CAMPAIGN View Post
    The Top 5 Supplements to Gain Muscle Mass
    by Charles Poliquin

    In many seminars, I always get asked which supplements are best to gain mass. My answers will surprise many of you.

    Here they are:

    1. Fish Oil

    What? Fish oil? That is not cool, avant-garde, sexy, or exotic. Fish oil?

    Yes. Fish oil. You cannot be anabolic without enough Omega 3s. For example, I was once training a first-round pick for the NFL. He put on 29 lbs of lean body mass in one month once I jacked his fish oil intake to 45 grams a day. If you want to put muscle on and lose fat, take at least 30 grams of fish oil a day.

    Additional reasons for using fish oil include:

    It reduces inflammation.
    It improves insulin sensitivity: makes glucose and amino acids get better in your starved muscle cells.
    Taking fish oil in a liquid form is the most economical way of doing it. But taking them every meal works best. I always recommend a combination of liquid and capsules - Liquid for home meals, and capsules for away from home meals.

    I received this article in a newsletter from another site, just interested to hear some opinions on this.
    You can take 30g of fish oil a day if you want to bleed to death from a papercut.
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    Originally Posted by eddiegoodfellar View Post
    Post some before and after pics man your gonna be huge!

    I have gone up to 10g a day and it seemed to improve my skin and helped out the joints.
    Can't, got too big for my camera. Need a new one with more megapixels.
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    Why so? Some pro bodybuilders take 35-45g in a Day?

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    Originally Posted by frankie7 View Post
    Why so? Some pro bodybuilders take 35-45g in a Day?
    like who?

    and btw even if they did do it, it doesn't make them smart.
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    like who?
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    Originally Posted by frankie7 View Post
    Ben Pakulski
    Is this that guy here?



    If yes, then his caloric intake is perhaps in the range of 7-8.000 kcal per day, with 30 I.U. of insulin, 1 g of testosterone and 100 mug of levothyronin for dessert.

    I think that 30 g of omega 3 fatty acids in a guy who may consume 500g of pure protein per day is a different thing than in a guy who eats 2500 kcal/d and 200 g protein per day, and doesn't have a dessert.


    The problem is that Pro-bodybuilders' diets can never be used as reference for guys like you and me because we don't drink that special multi-juice.
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    his body could probably handle that much considering his caloric intake. but what a pro-bodybuilder does shouldn't always transfer over to "normal" people.
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    Ben :

    Its does seem like a lot, but honestly as long as youre not dieting for a contest, and the heavy minerals have been removed from the oils(always read the labels!) its not too much at all.
    It will actually help youre training and recovery bigtime. Natually occuring sources that contain high omega 3s are salmon,trout, walnuts, and sea algae. WHich I also eat in plentitude.
    Soace it out. I take about 8-10grams 4times a day
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    Originally Posted by frankie7 View Post
    Ben :

    Its does seem like a lot, but honestly as long as youre not dieting for a contest, and the heavy minerals have been removed from the oils(always read the labels!) its not too much at all.
    It will actually help youre training and recovery bigtime. Natually occuring sources that contain high omega 3s are salmon,trout, walnuts, and sea algae. WHich I also eat in plentitude.
    Soace it out. I take about 8-10grams 4times a day
    i'd like to know how much fat he eats in a day. besides he's just one example - that doesn't mean we should all be running out to copy him just because it works for him.
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    Originally Posted by frankie7 View Post
    Ben :

    Its does seem like a lot, but honestly as long as youre not dieting for a contest, and the heavy minerals have been removed from the oils(always read the labels!) its not too much at all.
    It will actually help youre training and recovery bigtime. Natually occuring sources that contain high omega 3s are salmon,trout, walnuts, and sea algae. WHich I also eat in plentitude.
    Soace it out. I take about 8-10grams 4times a day


    omega 3 fatty acids are extremely prone to oxidation and very high dietary levels of them may introduce some lipid peroxidation which in turn will stress your endogenous anti-oxidative systems.
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    unless I'm having severe joint issues I dont go over 6g a day spaced out

    at least in supplmental form that is

    my eggs and peanut butter have been enhanced with omega 3's as well but I think only the peanut butter's is sourced from fish oil
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    So how can we know our max levels of omega-3 by supplementation intake for naturals and drugged bodybuilders? What are some of the factors


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    Interesting that fish oil might help with building body mass. My thoughts, I wondered how much omega 3 was being consumed? Fish oil comes in different concentrations.

    For heart health I take 2000 mgs of EPA/ DHA a day plus 6 capsules of krill oil. I also avoid eating inflammatory omega 6 oils. And with that over time I was able to achieve an omega 3 index testing level above 10% and a 1 to 1 Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio - which is an ideal level for preventing heart disease. Hopfully it will be good for building muscle also.
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    Originally Posted by ParsleyTea View Post
    Interesting that fish oil might help with building body mass. My thoughts, I wondered how much omega 3 was being consumed? Fish oil comes in different concentrations.

    For heart health I take 2000 mgs of EPA/ DHA a day plus 6 capsules of krill oil. I also avoid eating inflammatory omega 6 oils. And with that over time I was able to achieve an omega 3 index testing level above 10% and a 1 to 1 Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio - which is an ideal level for preventing heart disease. Hopfully it will be good for building muscle also.
    I think you should get a blood test done,suspecting your red blood cell count will be low,if you do what you have been saying and i don't think you should be worrying so much for heart disease if you dont eat junk food and trans fat,omega6-9 are good and they are there for a reason,hence why they suggest 4:1 ratio for omega6:3.
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    I think you should get a blood test done,suspecting your red blood cell count will be low,if you do what you have been saying and i don't think you should be worrying so much for heart disease if you dont eat junk food and trans fat,omega6-9 are good and they are there for a reason,hence why they suggest 4:1 ratio for omega6:3.
    Nah, I'm quite happy where my testing Omega 6 to 3 ratio is at. I'll give you that the ideal Omega 6 to 3 ratio is debatable, but from the heart health studies I've seen I'm happy having a ratio that is less than 2 to 1 or in my case 1 to 1.
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