lifters with strong deadlift and weak bench

**Big Slim DaDDy** · 07-10-2009, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by L1FTHVY

i can deadlift more than 400, i can bench 300

i watched a dave tate power benching video with some good tips..

if i follow his rules, and really tighter up my form my bench is wayyyyy lower, like 245 instead of 300

Your max goes down when you take a power benchers advice? wut?

**Big Slim DaDDy** · 07-10-2009, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dreamer Bulk

34 seconds onward is agonizing to watch.

I just watched again seriously wtf is that retard doing? It looks like the world will end if he does not complete the deadlift.

**ryan250** · 07-10-2009, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy

34 seconds onward is agonizing to watch.

x2. wtf did i just watch. srsly

how long have you been lifting for?>

**L1FTHVY** · 07-10-2009, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Dreamer Bulk

hahaha wow

**PaHulkster** · 07-10-2009, 01:28 PM

DW actually got good at lifting eventually. That video is really old.

**BrawnySwoleman** · 07-10-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy

34 seconds onward is agonizing to watch.

I just watched again seriously wtf is that retard doing? It looks like the world will end if he does not complete the deadlift.

Strong barbell humping.

**Big Slim DaDDy** · 07-10-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by ryan250

x2. wtf did i just watch. srsly

how long have you been lifting for?>

About 6 years off and on.

**L1FTHVY** · 07-10-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy

Your max goes down when you take a power benchers advice? wut?

yea, so obviously i wasn't doing something right

put it this way. the day after i benched that way, my chest was more sore than its ever been. so clearly i was doing something wrong. probably using too much tri's

**ryan250** · 07-10-2009, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy

About 6 years off and on.

brb stealing your quote.

**Big Slim DaDDy** · 07-10-2009, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by ryan250

brb stealing your quote.

Oh noez

**SoccerAthlete** · 07-10-2009, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Nitric Oxide

I have a very bad deadlift to bench ratio. It's probably because I use dumbbells for bench instead of a bar. On the bright side, I have a good dumbbell to bar bench press ratio (dumbbells are pretty close to being the same weight as the bar).

ya i have that same problem! my DB bench press is basically almost as much as my BB press....i dont knnow why im so weak on on BB......

**Messiahtype** · 07-10-2009, 01:34 PM

Damn my bench sucks.

Dead 1rm is about 475.
Bench 1rm is about 275.
Squat 1rm is around 400.

**JoeyDaFool** · 07-10-2009, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by PaHulkster

Easier is definitely subjective. I would certainly take any hard bench workout over my regular deadlift workout. The hardest bench workout wouldn't even compare to my hard deadlift workouts. Generally you see people in the gym doing the easier things. How many people in the average gym bench 315? Now how many deadlift 500? Why would this be? It's because deadlifts are a hell of a lot harder, and most people don't want to do them.

bench workouts can be tough, too. maybe not near as tough as deadlift, but deadlift goes up very fast while bench just stays there

a guy that has a weak bench and achieved to jump it through the roof in a short amount of time obviously isn't having a good time in the gym

**JoeyDaFool** · 07-10-2009, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by PaHulkster

DW actually got good at lifting eventually. That video is really old.

he still has a 225 bench in meet

**PaHulkster** · 07-10-2009, 01:38 PM

I don't know. I've worked out with some real serious benchers (455 @ 181), and even on the toughest days they don't get too wrecked. Same goes at the meets I've been too. Watch the lifters after theirs squats, benches, and deads. Benching just doesn't take as much out of you.

**salamat** · 07-10-2009, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dreamer Bulk

LOL.....

he should decrease the weight

**B.O.L.A.** · 07-10-2009, 01:39 PM

I DL ~400 and bench ~250

main reason is I use dumbbells not barbell for bench. With a few months of prep I could probably hit 300 but I have no interest in feats of strength or looking like alphabrah in the weightroom.

**PaHulkster** · 07-10-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by JoeyDaFool

he still has a 225 bench in meet

I don't keep track of the guy or anything. I just remember seeing one of his videos a while back that was much better than the one posted earlier. FWIW a meet bench can be way lower than even a good gym lift. You don't press until the judge says so, and that pause can take everything out of a lifter.

**Loochi** · 07-10-2009, 01:43 PM

I never do deadlifts. I fail at life.

I don't see the point in them. Just me though.

**Big Slim DaDDy** · 07-10-2009, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by JoeyDaFool

he still has a 225 bench in meet

lol I got 225x15 last week. I feel 15x stronger than him

**Big Slim DaDDy** · 07-10-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Loochi

I never do deadlifts. I fail at life.

I don't see the point in them. Just me though.

The point is awesomeness.

**LikenessOfVanity** · 07-10-2009, 01:44 PM

deadlifting is such a raw power move, it uses pretty much every muscle you need to use in everyday life. deads build strength that actually has a purpose. A big dead lift is definitely more respectable than big bench. When do you ever run into situations where your pec strength does anything?

**JoeyDaFool** · 07-10-2009, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by PaHulkster

I don't keep track of the guy or anything. I just remember seeing one of his videos a while back that was much better than the one posted earlier. FWIW a meet bench can be way lower than even a good gym lift. You don't press until the judge says so, and that pause can take everything out of a lifter.

yeah but after he corrected his form, every one of his lifts stalled and he's been benching 225 for like 5 years now. never went up

**Big Slim DaDDy** · 07-10-2009, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by LikenessOfVanity

deadlifting is such a raw power move, it uses pretty much every muscle you need to use in everyday life. deads build strength that actually has a purpose. A big dead lift is definitely more respectable than big bench. When do you ever run into situations where your pec strength does anything?

Shoving matches with fat people.

**JoeyDaFool** · 07-10-2009, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy

lol I got 225x15 last week. I feel 15x stronger than him

you're a beast

**Loochi** · 07-10-2009, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by sword_

weak deadlift = weak back, weak ham/quads, weak grip...one of those factors

also someone who can pullup 100+ more than likely has a strong upper back and strong grip, if they can't deadlift (which I doubt someone would have a weak dead with a strong pullup) that means their lower back is not as strong or they have weaker legs

I don't dead lift and I have a pretty good back in my opinion....

What's up with that? Must be 'genetic' Lol.

**Who?** · 07-10-2009, 01:49 PM

I deadlift 500lbs for 2 reps but can barely get 225 on bench. I look like I have never stepped foot in a gym though..

**ryan250** · 07-10-2009, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Loochi

I don't dead lift and I have a pretty good back in my opinion....

What's up with that? Must be 'genetic' Lol.

**Genocide1** · 07-10-2009, 01:51 PM

I have a friend who benches 230, squats 220, and dead 260, what would you call him?

**MaV II DARK II** · 07-10-2009, 01:53 PM

o hai

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