Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 49
  1. #1
    I scare people. CanuckTank's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2007
    Location: Canada
    Age: 47
    Posts: 4,090
    Rep Power: 887
    CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    CanuckTank is offline

    Farewell Fellow Keto'ers! Good luck

    Though I won't be far away, anyone can pm me if they want to ask some questions. Though i am not a professional, I have lost over 32lbs on this diet and I am thankful for that.

    Through my experience, and through confirmation from a nutritionalist (who is pro-keto btw), I have come to the point in time wher I have to branch off from the keto diet to a more normal diet with a mixture of carbs, fat and proteins for my health.

    Last week I suffered from a mild to mod bout of hypoglycemia brought about by my low carb intake. As confirmed by my nutritionist, this diet is suited more for obese people and the effectiveness drops are you get in better shape. Seeing I have lost a lot of weight, I have to now focus on a more balanced diet.

    Since swapping over to a more standard diet, I am feeling much better and I am still losing weight.

    I am thankful for all who have helped and I am glad I have helped others. I will be moving over to the nutrition main section to pop around there from time to time, but my keto days are successfull, but over.

    Good luck to anyone on this diet. Drink water, count the carbs and cals and keep on plugging.

    I am only a pm away if you need me.

    PEACE OUT!
    Last edited by CanuckTank; 05-21-2009 at 11:16 AM.
    Like Brutis...you can do dis.
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    Registered User seanward's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2008
    Location: Cypress, Texas, United States
    Age: 42
    Posts: 120
    Rep Power: 197
    seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) seanward has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    seanward is offline
    Good job bro! We're all proud of you!

    Sean
    Keto:
    Started: 4/27/09 @ 274
    5/6/09 @ 266
    5/20/09 @ 264
    6/1/09 @ 262
    6/4/09 @ 260
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Registered User startnow's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2009
    Age: 44
    Posts: 125
    Rep Power: 187
    startnow has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) startnow has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) startnow has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) startnow has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) startnow has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) startnow has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) startnow has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) startnow has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) startnow has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) startnow has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    startnow is offline
    Awesome results! Good luck on your new endeavor!
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Registered User weber25's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2006
    Location: Parker, Colorado, United States
    Age: 43
    Posts: 695
    Rep Power: 231
    weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10) weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10) weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10) weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10) weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10) weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10) weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10) weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10) weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10) weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10) weber25 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    weber25 is offline
    You could be a pain sometimes but always a source of thought, you'll be missed in the forum as it added color.

    Good luck on your new endeavor and your long healthy life ahead
    Last edited by weber25; 05-21-2009 at 12:32 PM.
    Those who think they have no time for exercise will sooner or later have to make time for illness. - Edward Stanley

    Wow! what a life uh?

    Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds - Bob Marley
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Gibe Moni Plos AIM9x's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2008
    Location: California, United States
    Age: 42
    Posts: 3,020
    Rep Power: 16922
    AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) AIM9x is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)
    AIM9x is offline
    Cheers bro:
    bodybuilding.com chat room moderator
    All of the banning, none of the discounts or free stuff
    іяс сязш -- http://chat.bodybuilding.com/
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    Tanned Josh81's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2006
    Location: Bayonne, New Jersey, United States
    Age: 31
    Posts: 21,219
    Rep Power: 67035
    Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Josh81 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    Josh81 is offline
    found this to be true as well and i'm starting a normal meal plan also on monday


    went from 21% bodyfat to around 12%..weight loss stalled so i decided to bulk

    bulked for a couple months, while maintaining 12-13% body fat and got my strength back to where it was at 21%
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    Up & Coming seventytwo's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2007
    Age: 38
    Posts: 157
    Rep Power: 215
    seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10) seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10) seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10) seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10) seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10) seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10) seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10) seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10) seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10) seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10) seventytwo is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    seventytwo is offline
    Good stuff CT.

    I'm sticking to it, although wary of the "it's better for obese people". I'm far from obese and always thought this would be an effective diet. I'll stick to it another month or so and make my own conclusions!
    Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things that you have not known - J33:3

    Cause we finally know now what our time here's about, we were not meant to be another face in the crowd. We're a forest of lives, and we grow tall and wide. We'll never be cut down. - Rise Against
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    Registered User MdFitness's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2008
    Age: 42
    Posts: 1,731
    Rep Power: 258
    MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50) MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50) MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50) MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50) MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50) MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50) MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50) MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50) MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50) MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50) MdFitness will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    MdFitness is offline
    good luck as well.

    I plan to use these type diets just for cutting mostly in a span of no more than 4 weeks.

    I do plan to try and bulk but I will take in a carb/protein meal before and after lifting, as well as a high carb day on saturday.

    I need more mass and carbs are needed to do that for the most part in some form or another.
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Registered User Paintball26's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2008
    Age: 33
    Posts: 177
    Rep Power: 203
    Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10) Paintball26 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Paintball26 is offline
    I'll be joining you on the normal 40-40-20 diet or maybe a 40-30-30 on sunday.
    I liked doing the CKD, but I'm getting tired of the foods.

    I loved the carbed up look and the few days after, but I really dislike the deflated look by the end of the week.
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    One more time skelooth's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2004
    Location: Schenectady, New York, United States
    Age: 43
    Posts: 11,914
    Rep Power: 4074
    skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) skelooth is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    skelooth is offline
    Good luck d00d. Congrats on the success.
    I've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Registered User AndrewCa's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Location: Ontario, Canada
    Posts: 600
    Rep Power: 257
    AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10) AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10) AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10) AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10) AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10) AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10) AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10) AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10) AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10) AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10) AndrewCa is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    AndrewCa is offline
    Good luck Canuck tank with your normal diet man!!!!
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Registered User s.o.u.p's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2008
    Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia
    Age: 43
    Posts: 726
    Rep Power: 0
    s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500) s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500) s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500) s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500) s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500) s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500) s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500) s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500) s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500) s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500) s.o.u.p is not very helpful. (-500)
    s.o.u.p is offline
    I would love to know your current body stats, as well as your dietary intake (as of the end of your keto) and also your diet change choices.

    Also, were you predispositioned to hypoglycemia?
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    I scare people. CanuckTank's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2007
    Location: Canada
    Age: 47
    Posts: 4,090
    Rep Power: 887
    CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    CanuckTank is offline
    Originally Posted by s.o.u.p View Post
    I would love to know your current body stats, as well as your dietary intake (as of the end of your keto) and also your diet change choices.

    Also, were you predispositioned to hypoglycemia?
    My intake was 2000-2200cals, less then 35g carbs and the rest fats. Lots of greens, chicken breasts and lean steak. Lots of olive oil.

    Right now I have introduced low and high GI carbs back in when they are needed. On training days I have a cup of oatmeal with four teaspoons of maple syrup to get the day going 1 hour before the workout.

    The rest is some breads and such. Not going crazy on the cals, but am cutting back on the fats.

    Workouts are CRAZY! Energy and lifts are back, I sweat like a bastard while training (haven't happneed for a long time) seeing I am training so heavy and so hard. My muscle are giving out before my energy does which is a nice change and I am able to go to full muscle fatigue.

    Mood is night and day. i am in a good mood most of the time with little to no irritability. Heart is now beating normal again and I am not so easily pushed to the adrenaline level. It got to the point that just a irritating forum post send my adrenaline going. Huge sign of low blood sugar.

    Let me be straight though, I am PRO-KETO. i am not saying there is anything wrong with it. It worked for me bigtime. I just have progressed out of the stage where I need it.

    I am here for you guys and gals anytime you need me. I LOVE to help people.....although I might not be as diplomatic as others......
    Last edited by CanuckTank; 05-21-2009 at 07:25 PM.
    Like Brutis...you can do dis.
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    honor him... lth's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2008
    Location: Miami, Florida, United States
    Age: 37
    Posts: 10,765
    Rep Power: 13773
    lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) lth is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)
    lth is offline
    Are you bloating pretty bad going back to carbs?
    Reply With Quote

  15. #15
    My prediction: Pain! joey joe joe's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Location: Ontario
    Age: 45
    Posts: 1,465
    Rep Power: 983
    joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500) joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500) joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500) joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500) joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500) joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500) joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500) joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500) joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500) joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500) joey joe joe is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    joey joe joe is offline
    Best of luck to you CT! Congrats on all your progess!
    New music and video up! www.daysleftmusic.com
    Reply With Quote

  16. #16
    I scare people. CanuckTank's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2007
    Location: Canada
    Age: 47
    Posts: 4,090
    Rep Power: 887
    CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    CanuckTank is offline
    Originally Posted by lth View Post
    Are you bloating pretty bad going back to carbs?
    A very small amount. About two pounds.
    Like Brutis...you can do dis.
    Reply With Quote

  17. #17
    Registered User Dirty Shoez's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Location: Bellingham, Washington, United States
    Posts: 393
    Rep Power: 0
    Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000) Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000) Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000) Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000) Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000) Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000) Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000) Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000) Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000) Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000) Dirty Shoez is a complete loser! (-2000)
    Dirty Shoez is offline
    1) Congratulations on discovering a `more normal' diet
    2) Maybe don't blame Keto for your problems.

    If my blood sugar is low, I eat more Carbs. Simple as that. If I'm only in Ketosis 100 hours a week out of 168, I'm fine with that. Eating at a deficit = weight loss, regardless of macros. If you've been suffering on Keto, that's on you for not making the necessary modifications.

    Honestly, your post looks like someone scared the **** out of you. Or like you hyped yourself up before doing it, and now its too late to go back (at least for now). Just doesn't smell right. But don't let ol' Dirty Shoez get you down....

    Kick rocks. Happy rocks.
    Reply With Quote

  18. #18
    Registered User sctp's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2008
    Age: 39
    Posts: 64
    Rep Power: 196
    sctp has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    sctp is offline
    I believe the solution to low blood sugar in a keto diet could be upping the protein a little more and follow macros 45%-50% pro 50% fat,so you get a lil higher blood sugar cause of glucogenesis from excessive protein.Good luck with the new diet.
    Reply With Quote

  19. #19
    I scare people. CanuckTank's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2007
    Location: Canada
    Age: 47
    Posts: 4,090
    Rep Power: 887
    CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    CanuckTank is offline
    Originally Posted by Dirty Shoez View Post
    1) Congratulations on discovering a `more normal' diet
    2) Maybe don't blame Keto for your problems.

    If my blood sugar is low, I eat more Carbs. Simple as that. If I'm only in Ketosis 100 hours a week out of 168, I'm fine with that. Eating at a deficit = weight loss, regardless of macros. If you've been suffering on Keto, that's on you for not making the necessary modifications.

    Honestly, your post looks like someone scared the **** out of you. Or like you hyped yourself up before doing it, and now its too late to go back (at least for now). Just doesn't smell right. But don't let ol' Dirty Shoez get you down....

    Kick rocks. Happy rocks.
    Yea, It was the diet. What else am I going to blame??? Something in the air that day? It was a lack of blood sugar from my low carb diet.

    Who scared who? I was feeling bad and made the modifications by dropping out of keto. I was suffering from hypoglycemia bigtime and had to get more sugar into me. I was going downhill.

    To be honest, I can see why you are deep in the red seeing most of your posts paint you as being quite the imflammatory azzhole most of the time.

    You are sounding like you are offended that I blamed the diet for feeling bad and if so, I don't fawkin care. i said i was pro-keto and will support it.
    Like Brutis...you can do dis.
    Reply With Quote

  20. #20
    I scare people. CanuckTank's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2007
    Location: Canada
    Age: 47
    Posts: 4,090
    Rep Power: 887
    CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    CanuckTank is offline
    Originally Posted by sctp View Post
    I believe the solution to low blood sugar in a keto diet could be upping the protein a little more and follow macros 45%-50% pro 50% fat,so you get a lil higher blood sugar cause of glucogenesis from excessive protein.Good luck with the new diet.
    never do that, all you do it teach your body to burn protein for energy and when you don't have any of that, it will attack your muscles for energy to make up for the shortfall.

    this is not a protein burning diet, it is a fat burning diet.
    Like Brutis...you can do dis.
    Reply With Quote

  21. #21
    Registered User sctp's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2008
    Age: 39
    Posts: 64
    Rep Power: 196
    sctp has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    sctp is offline
    Originally Posted by CanuckTank View Post
    never do that, all you do it teach your body to burn protein for energy and when you don't have any of that, it will attack your muscles for energy to make up for the shortfall.

    this is not a protein burning diet, it is a fat burning diet.
    You are still in ketosis with the macros i gave and you cant really "teach" your body to do certain things..and muscle loss during a diet occurs for the fact that the body tries to LOWER the metabolism so it keeps its fat storage intact for longer,to sum it up its more or less down to the calorie intake.
    Reply With Quote

  22. #22
    I scare people. CanuckTank's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2007
    Location: Canada
    Age: 47
    Posts: 4,090
    Rep Power: 887
    CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    CanuckTank is offline
    Originally Posted by sctp View Post
    You are still in ketosis with the macros i gave and you cant really "teach" your body to do certain things..and muscle loss during a diet occurs for the fact that the body tries to LOWER the metabolism so it keeps its fat storage intact for longer,to sum it up its more or less down to the calorie intake.
    sorry, but you have to go high fat to get your liver producing ketones to consume fat on this diet. Eating high protein will not help you on this diet nor is it a thing you can do to replace carbs.
    Like Brutis...you can do dis.
    Reply With Quote

  23. #23
    Registered User PGW's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2009
    Age: 36
    Posts: 139
    Rep Power: 188
    PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) PGW has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    PGW is offline
    Good luck! I'll probably be joining you in a few months, as soon as I reach my goal I will start introducing some complex carbs, but I will never go back to an "American diet".
    Reply With Quote

  24. #24
    Registered User ferak's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2007
    Location: Illinois, United States
    Age: 38
    Posts: 916
    Rep Power: 832
    ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500) ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500) ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500) ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500) ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500) ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500) ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500) ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500) ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500) ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500) ferak is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    ferak is offline
    Originally Posted by CanuckTank View Post
    sorry, but you have to go high fat to get your liver producing ketones to consume fat on this diet. Eating high protein will not help you on this diet nor is it a thing you can do to replace carbs.
    You can get into ketosis with his macros. Plaumbos macro's are similar to those...you dont need 60%+ fat to produce ketones. Honestly your post is rather weird as you basically made a decision to get off of keto then used whatever your nutritionist said as justification for actually doing it. Keto only good for obese people? Not good for getting into lower bf? Really?
    Reply With Quote

  25. #25
    I scare people. CanuckTank's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2007
    Location: Canada
    Age: 47
    Posts: 4,090
    Rep Power: 887
    CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500) CanuckTank is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    CanuckTank is offline
    Originally Posted by ferak View Post
    You can get into ketosis with his macros. Plaumbos macro's are similar to those...you dont need 60%+ fat to produce ketones. Honestly your post is rather weird as you basically made a decision to get off of keto then used whatever your nutritionist said as justification for actually doing it. Keto only good for obese people? Not good for getting into lower bf? Really?
    Yes, I made a decision to get off of it due to hypoglycemia. How is that weird?

    Also, the diet is more effective for obese people rather than people in better shape. The more obese you are, the better it will work for you.

    I have been feeling much better lately. But that is just me. I am not saying others will have the same complications I had.
    Like Brutis...you can do dis.
    Reply With Quote

  26. #26
    Registered User theDeviousOne's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: Cypress, California, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 403
    Rep Power: 255
    theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    theDeviousOne is offline
    Originally Posted by Dirty Shoez View Post
    1) Congratulations on discovering a `more normal' diet
    2) Maybe don't blame Keto for your problems.

    If my blood sugar is low, I eat more Carbs. Simple as that. If I'm only in Ketosis 100 hours a week out of 168, I'm fine with that. Eating at a deficit = weight loss, regardless of macros. If you've been suffering on Keto, that's on you for not making the necessary modifications.

    Honestly, your post looks like someone scared the **** out of you. Or like you hyped yourself up before doing it, and now its too late to go back (at least for now). Just doesn't smell right. But don't let ol' Dirty Shoez get you down....

    Kick rocks. Happy rocks.
    Hey man.. don't bash him now.. And it really is what you are doing.

    Hey canuck! great results! Every body is different, A diet that works for one may not work for another. That is just how it goes. Keto is definitely not for everyone. To the minor things like 'i like carbs' to the major things like 'omg i dont know what I am doing, I am not in ketosis, i have ketoacidos' (not saying that you aren't smart with keto and that you had this)

    Im just saying that you have to look out for yourself, the most important person.

    When I told my friends (chubby chubby chubby) that I was going on ketosis they didn't know what it was, I told her 'basically it's low low carbs, high fat, high protein' and she was like "YOUR BRAIN NEEDS CARBS! YOU'LL DEPRIVE YOUR BRAIN AND YOU WILL DAMAGE YOURSELF" all that horse**** . She also said, "You might lose weight, at the cost of your health, and when you eat regularly again you'll gain all that weight back"... Lost 40 pounds in 2 months, went back on a more 'normal diet' and didn't gain an ounce, lost weight..

    What I am trying to get at is you should not feel apprehensive to go on a different diet nor should you let people scare you away. You HAVE to look out for number one, and that is what you are doing. Kudos to you mate!
    "Just do the diet, lift hard and take pictures of yourself naked. As long as the scale is going down, your lifts are going up and your pix look good, ignore everything else." - Eileen

    "Also take a hard look at your nuts." - Eileen
    Reply With Quote

  27. #27
    Registered User theDeviousOne's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: Cypress, California, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 403
    Rep Power: 255
    theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    theDeviousOne is offline
    Originally Posted by sctp View Post
    You are still in ketosis with the macros i gave and you cant really "teach" your body to do certain things..and muscle loss during a diet occurs for the fact that the body tries to LOWER the metabolism so it keeps its fat storage intact for longer,to sum it up its more or less down to the calorie intake.
    Well first of all

    1. Keto is to change your body from using carb's as energy to lose fat to a more effective process by, using fat as energy to burn fat. Ultimately by cutting carbs out (original energy source) and ingesting more fat to make up for the carbs. That is how your body changes. To preserve muscle you eat more protein.

    Secondly

    2. You're body is a living thing, it breathes, it's complex, and it learns. You TEACH your body to change, as mentioned above, it's evident. A Catabolic state (muscle loss to you) is achieved by burning up all the energy sources and attacking what is left (your muscle). It can also be achieved faster by going over your THR, sustaining that 'Above' HR, and burning EVERYTHING as energy.

    Also you can't sum everything up by calorie intake. It's the road you take to determine your fat loss
    Last edited by theDeviousOne; 05-23-2009 at 02:14 AM.
    "Just do the diet, lift hard and take pictures of yourself naked. As long as the scale is going down, your lifts are going up and your pix look good, ignore everything else." - Eileen

    "Also take a hard look at your nuts." - Eileen
    Reply With Quote

  28. #28
    Registered User theDeviousOne's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: Cypress, California, United States
    Age: 36
    Posts: 403
    Rep Power: 255
    theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10) theDeviousOne is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    theDeviousOne is offline
    Originally Posted by ferak View Post
    You can get into ketosis with his macros. Plaumbos macro's are similar to those...you dont need 60%+ fat to produce ketones. Honestly your post is rather weird as you basically made a decision to get off of keto then used whatever your nutritionist said as justification for actually doing it. Keto only good for obese people? Not good for getting into lower bf? Really?
    While I dont agree with keto being only for obese people, I do agree with his decision. Why go to a professional if you aren't going to take advice.
    "Just do the diet, lift hard and take pictures of yourself naked. As long as the scale is going down, your lifts are going up and your pix look good, ignore everything else." - Eileen

    "Also take a hard look at your nuts." - Eileen
    Reply With Quote

  29. #29
    DC Devotee WorldStrike's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2008
    Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States
    Age: 34
    Posts: 1,502
    Rep Power: 524
    WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250) WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250) WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250) WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250) WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250) WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250) WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250) WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250) WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250) WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250) WorldStrike has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    WorldStrike is offline
    I'll be making this same switch in a week. I know the boat you're in, so good luck. Let me ask you...are you doing a carb-up, and then the next day switching back to a normal diet? That's how I had planned to do it.

    I especially need to drop this cutting diet after my vacation. I was in Ireland and had a hard time finding Keto-friendly meals all the time, so I think my calorie intake was somewhere around 700-1000 daily, and all I did every day was walk (pretty steady amount of cardio). I was getting constant headrushes and I had a bad feeling about it. Went over there last Wednesday @ 162lbs, stayed on Keto, and weighed myself this morning at 151lbs

    Needless to say, at 6', this isn't what I'm wanting, and although I hoped Keto would keep my body to mainly burning fat, 11lbs in 10 days cannot be all fat. Looks like my carb-up today will be quite dirty, and the rest of this week (my last week of Keto) will be around maintenance/bulk calories rather than cutting, because this weight is dangerous for me.

    But anyway, do you plan to switch to a regular diet after a carb-up day? I felt this would be best.
    Reply With Quote

  30. #30
    Trimming the Fat Lemonzest's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2007
    Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Age: 45
    Posts: 1,204
    Rep Power: 250
    Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10) Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10) Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10) Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10) Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10) Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10) Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10) Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10) Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10) Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10) Lemonzest is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Lemonzest is offline
    I've lost around 40lbs on keto (from 210-169) and altho you've not helped me directly, I've enjoyed reading most of your posts, you're often right on target and not afraid to speak your mind Good luck with your present diet, I too am thinking of going on a 40/40/20 when i've lost the final 7-10lbs (which are coming off slowly!!) Then its Bulk time
    Reply With Quote

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts