powerlifting vs bodybuilding

[Widge]

they can cut down after their pl careers

look at jim wendler and dave tate @ elitefts

wendlers goal was to squat 1000lbs, he did it, now he is cutting down and getting into shape

maybe, i duno how good most of them would look after a long old cut, ofc theres guna be the odd one that looks sick.

i just cant really look past the fact that for me being big >>being strong. although ive been to a pl meet and it was kl. guna focus on bbing from now.

brb squatting 135 for reps and never locking out














ever

[someonefat]

i do see the apeal of powerlifting but i also think that no matter how much people say its not true, everyone wants to ipress other people and have something to show for their hard work.

if i was a pler i would just feel like at the end of it when im over the hill id be like "well ive spent my lift lifting some heavy metal and im not even big or aesthetic"

duno, hard to explain, spose i just think being big is better than being strong

this is IMO

Bob Gaynor is 62 198lbs and totals over 1500 RAW so powerlifting is life long sports like lifting in general....

Also moving heavy weights will make you big no matter what, there lots of examples of ripped up powerlifters archiving great bodies.

[Widge]

Bob Gaynor is 62 198lbs and totals over 1500 RAW so powerlifting is life long sports like lifting in general....

Also moving heavy weights will make you big no matter what, there lots of examples of ripped up powerlifters archiving great bodies.

i know man, im not denying any of this, bodybuilder are still a hell of a lot bigger than powerlifters in general, regardless of how much they lift

im digging a hole hear, fuuuuu

[someonefat]

i know man, im not denying any of this, bodybuilder are still a hell of a lot bigger than powerlifters in general, regardless of how much they lift

im digging a hole hear, fuuuuu

Yeah if your trying to just work on your body bodybuilding is probably better and thats what I'm currently doing also trying to get as big as possible. Yet when people say retarded **** like 'whats point of being strong' 'all powerlifters are fat' 'powerlifting will cripple you' 'powerlifting wont build muscle' is really ignorant.

[Widge]

Yeah if your trying to just work on your body bodybuilding is probably better and thats what I'm currently doing also trying to get as big as possible. Yet when people say retarded **** like 'whats point of being strong' 'all powerlifters are fat' 'powerlifting will cripple you' 'powerlifting wont build muscle' is really ignorant.

agreed, but low rep ranges are overated imo for building msucle, specially around these parts, no denying that getting stronger will get you bigger but 5x5 squats is not enough to build sick legs like alot of people SEEM to think

[someonefat]

agreed, but low rep ranges are overated imo for building msucle, specially around these parts, no denying that getting stronger will get you bigger but 5x5 squats is not enough to build sick legs like alot of people SEEM to think

Yeah true which is why you see some oly lifters or powerlifters moving some sick weight, yet legs are not as big as would think then a pro bodybuilder is only squatting like 315-495 for reps and his legs are massive.

I think you can build a lot of mass especially early on doing that type of training though like 5x5 which is why its one of best programs for beginners. But once you a little more advanced hypertrophy training is superior to build the most mass possible.

You can build some big legs though training in fairly low reps like 5x5 but its not the superior way to do it.

[Supercows]

can we not have an option for the best of both worlds?

what about a bodybuilder that trains like a powerlifter?

[Widge]

can we not have an option for the best of both worlds?

what about a bodybuilder that trains like a powerlifter?

there is no sucsecful bodybuilder that trains like a powerlifter than i know of

[samsuperjew5]

untill you have a 300/400/500, i dont think you should train for size


but thats just my opinion

[deadbycheese]

At first I did bodybuilding. Then I decided I really cared about putting up bigger numbers. So I switched to training like a powerlifter. Right now I am doing some strongman stuff (mainly truck push/pull, farmers, tires, sleds). Hope to compete this summer or after football.

[stircrazy101]

untill you have a 300/400/500, i dont think you should train for size


but thats just my opinion

lol thats what i told my coach the other day...

[Who-Ran-Zone]

afaik mentzer was one of those bodybuilders who trained with low reps?

300/400/500?
squat/benchpress/deadlift? wtf?

[samsuperjew5]

bench/squat/dead

thats how dam der bodybuilders usually say it on other boards, and you guys seem to want to be bodybuilders lol

[Who-Ran-Zone]

ah... i knew it as SQ/BP/DL

[7399martyn]

powerlifting!

in the early years strenth training = size

[N4th4n]

no, if you compete, you are a powerlifter

lmao is that graven in stone?

[Saint_James]

untill you have a 300/400/500, i dont think you should train for size


but thats just my opinion

I agree 101% with this. You will most likely never get anywhere if you train like a "bodybuilder" and rep 135x10 for bench or 185x10 for squats.

I see you have been browsing iron addicts, thats something that he really emphasizes on there.

It may not be 300/400/500 for me but i will not start a full out bodybuilding routine until im atleast 225/365/405.

Powerlifting routines are so much more satisfying and actually FUN to do.

[someonefat]

I agree 101% with this. You will most likely never get anywhere if you train like a "bodybuilder" and rep 135x10 for bench or 185x10 for squats.

I see you have been browsing iron addicts, thats something that he really emphasizes on there.

It may not be 300/400/500 for me but i will not start a full out bodybuilding routine until im atleast 225/365/405.

Powerlifting routines are so much more satisfying and actually FUN to do.

Oh yes like bodybuilding split wont get you strong also WTF.

[Saint_James]

Oh yes like bodybuilding split wont get you strong also WTF.

It will get you strong, but there is no point in bodybuilding if you have no strength to begin with.

Thats why most if not all certified GOOD personal trainers start off beginners on routines that are close to powerlifting routines in the sense that they try to add weight to their compounds and focus 100% on compounds.

A bodybuilding routine is more for people who already have that strength and are looking to work certain parts of their body more, sculpt their body by doing different isolation workouts.

[someonefat]

It will get you strong, but there is no point in bodybuilding if you have no strength to begin with.

Thats why most if not all certified GOOD personal trainers start off beginners on routines that are close to powerlifting routines in the sense that they try to add weight to their compounds and focus 100% on compounds.

A bodybuilding routine is more for people who already have that strength and are looking to work certain parts of their body more, sculpt their body by doing different isolation workouts.

A bodybuilding split is good for anyone trying to get bigger and look better. Compounds only programs work well for beginner since they are simple and easy, and most newbs starting out its just simpler and easier to stick to basics only. You realize that bodybuilding splits have compound movements in them right?

[Saint_James]

A bodybuilding split is good for anyone trying to get bigger and look better. Compounds only programs work well for beginner since they are simple and easy, and most newbs starting out its just simpler and easier to stick to basics only. You realize that bodybuilding splits have compound movements in them right?

Yes, but from own personal experience. I tried a 5 day bodybuilding split and i have tried 2,3,4 day moreso powerbuilding splits.

I did not go up in my compounds in the bb split, partly because i wasn't used to all of the volume and secondly i wasn't as focused on compounds as in my powerlifting/building splits. On bench for example, i only went up around 5-10 lbs in 2 months.

During my powerbuilding splits, i put most of my energy into my compounds and still have intensity on the isolation, but not as much. I put on 30 lbs in 2 months to my bench.

It 1 am, i will respond to wahtever you say tomorrow.

[someonefat]

Yes, but from own personal experience. I tried a 5 day bodybuilding split and i have tried 2,3,4 day moreso powerbuilding splits.

I did not go up in my compounds in the bb split, partly because i wasn't used to all of the volume and secondly i wasn't as focused on compounds as in my powerlifting/building splits. On bench for example, i only went up around 5-10 lbs in 2 months.

During my powerbuilding splits, i put most of my energy into my compounds and still have intensity on the isolation, but not as much. I put on 30 lbs in 2 months to my bench.

It 1 am, i will respond to wahtever you say tomorrow.

Uh so you got stronger focusing on strength, that makes sense. Bodybuilding split is meant to put on mass, strength is a side effect of being huge.

[*DH*]

untill you have a 300/400/500, i dont think you should train for size


but thats just my opinion

Shut your jew mouth when men are speaking.

No, in all seriousness, what if you don't flat bench?

[JoeyDaFool]

untill you have a 300/400/500, i dont think you should train for size


but thats just my opinion

and my opinion is until you are big, you shouldn't voice your opinion





and that is why bb.com is a joke to many. too many wannabe powerlifters that can't even bench 3 plates (or even 2) telling bbers how to train. all this ends with a bunch of parrots that have zero results spreading misinformation like a disease.

[samsuperjew5]

and my opinion is until you are big, you shouldn't voice your opinion

and that is why bb.com is a joke to many. too many wannabe powerlifters that can't even bench 3 plates (or even 2) telling bbers how to train. all this ends with a bunch of parrots that have zero results spreading misinformation like a disease.

lol, bb.com is a joke to many because idiots (this is you) are having kids who can barely bench 135x5 do high rep routines aimed towards putting on mass

every site online, (well at least the good ones) say to do a power routine based on gaining strength and size until you have decent numbers, then do a size routine

edit: what are your stats/training experience exactly lmao

[batmanman]

lol, bb.com is a joke to many because idiots (this is you) are having kids who can barely bench 135x5 do high rep routines aimed towards putting on mass

every site online, (well at least the good ones) say to do a power routine based on gaining strength and size until you have decent numbers, then do a size routine

edit: what are your stats/training experience exactly lmao

nb4 rape of the jew...

[samsuperjew5]

lol, he's pretty much suggesting that people with a 135 bench should be training in a x12 rep range etc


edit: upon further research, hes 6'0, 185 lbs, hardly in a position to be giving out advice, especially considering he joined here 6 years ago

[batmanman]

lol, he's pretty much suggesting that people with a 135 bench should be training in a x12 rep range etc

hypertrophy is hypertrophy is hypertrophy

if someone grabbed my bicep somehow and pulled on its attachment so hard that it caused hypertrophy... how would it know the difference between that and a 125 pound curl

[JoeyDaFool]

lol, bb.com is a joke to many because idiots (this is you) are having kids who can barely bench 135x5 do high rep routines aimed towards putting on mass

every site online, (well at least the good ones) say to do a power routine based on gaining strength and size until you have decent numbers, then do a size routine

edit: what are your stats/training experience exactly lmao

age:15
stats: 5'7 168lbs

[samsuperjew5]

hypertrophy is hypertrophy is hypertrophy

if someone grabbed my bicep somehow and pulled on its attachment so hard that it caused hypertrophy... how would it know the difference between that and a 125 pound curl

sorry zach, but that is a horrible analogy

(i'm gonna use bench, cause i dont really think/care bout curling )


two people start working out


one has been training for 6 months with a 135 lb bench, and has been doing it in a rep range of 100x12 every week, and moves up slowly

the other has been training for 6 months, starting with a 135 lb bench, and has been taking advantage of their noob gains, and has ben going up 5 lbs a week, and now has a 2 plate bench


who is going to be bigger?