db bench for triceps and shoulders, not chest???

[e_burna]

Hi. I just read this from another topic. AJbuilder had this to say:

"The barbell bench press is not essentially a chest exercise, it's more tricep and shoulder"

Is this true? Am I sacrificing chest workout by doing these rather than a bar?

[Stimpy]

Originally posted by e_burna
Hi. I just read this from another topic. AJbuilder had this to say:

"The barbell bench press is not essentially a chest exercise, it's more tricep and shoulder"

Is this true? Am I sacrificing chest workout by doing these rather than a bar?

it works your chest primarily but works the triceps and shoulders as a secondary muscle. I don't know how anyone could say that flat benchpress works the shoulders and triceps better than chest..........I mean that just sounds so stupid.

The same applies for using dumbbells to do flat benchpress, the only difference is dumbbells will usually put a bit more pressure on the shoulders and triceps than barbell, but either way the chest is the primary muscle group worked.

[El Dudereno]

When I do any sort of bench press I usually feel sore the next day in my pecs, up around the clavicle and onto the shoulders.

I know people say soreness isn't indicative of progress, but I'm fairly sure it IS indicative of what muscles you hit with the workout.

My triceps are never sore. I think it depends largely on grip - I take a very wide grip (in fact, I don't think I coulc grip any wider).

[e_burna]

Originally posted by El Dudereno

I know people say soreness isn't indicative of progress, but I'm fairly sure it IS indicative of what muscles you hit with the workout.

I thought soreness was indicative that you're having a hard workout? If it's not progress, than what is it?

[WhenMuffinsAtak]

soreness is anaerobic cell respiration which produces lactic acid. Lactic acid gives you that sore feeling. Soreness doesn't mean much, besides the fact that you're muscles aren't getting as much oxygen as they need to perform optimally (don't worry, thats pretty normal for weightlifting).

Anyway, BB bench is a ****ty chest builder. It works better for tris and shoulders if you're using proper form (I.E. no shoulder impingement). I find that DB bench works my chest a hell of a lot better than BB bench.

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Originally posted by e_burna
Hi. I just read this from another topic. AJbuilder had this to say:

"The barbell bench press is not essentially a chest exercise, it's more tricep and shoulder"

Is this true? Am I sacrificing chest workout by doing these rather than a bar?

with powerlifting form it is, i cant remember the last time i felt my chest after a bench workout

[MiloMan]

Originally posted by e_burna
I thought soreness was indicative that you're having a hard workout? If it's not progress, than what is it?

"Pump", "burn" , and soreness are not reliable indicators of a good workout, nor is the absence of such reliable indication of a bad workout - no matter what the plastic bimbos on Bodyshaping chirp.

All that matters are results - are you or are you not progressing toward one or more of your goals? If your goal is strength, are you getting stronger? If your goal is size, are you getting bigger? If your goal is cutting fat, are you getting leaner?

[hyp3r3xt3nsion]

Originally posted by e_burna
I thought soreness was indicative that you're having a hard workout? If it's not progress, than what is it?

nope; only sign is that, over time, you're gettingg stronger and bigger

[Stimpy]

Originally posted by WhenMuffinsAtak

Anyway, BB bench is a ****ty chest builder. It works better for tris and shoulders if you're using proper form (I.E. no shoulder impingement). I find that DB bench works my chest a hell of a lot better than BB bench.

bench is a ****ty chest builder???? I've got a huge chest and i've never done dumbbell flat benchpress, the same goes for many of my friends who bodybuild in the gym.

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Originally posted by Stimpy
bench is a ****ty chest builder???? I've got a huge chest and i've never done dumbbell flat benchpress, the same goes for many of my friends who bodybuild in the gym.

ive never really db flat bench, because it just feels ackward, its just a personal preference

[WhenMuffinsAtak]

Originally posted by Stimpy
bench is a ****ty chest builder???? I've got a huge chest and i've never done dumbbell flat benchpress, the same goes for many of my friends who bodybuild in the gym.

Incline bench/dips are superior.

[Heisman]

Powerlifting style bench press- shoulders, triceps, lats, then chest

Bodybuilding style bench press- chest, then shoulders, then triceps

soreness- absolutely no meaning at all

[Steveo31]

Originally posted by WhenMuffinsAtak
Incline bench/dips are superior.

For pec minor, yes. Incline is the way to go.

I really don't see how you can justify saying that bb bench is a "****ty" chest builder. It's muscle physiology.

[BenchpressER]

wat exactly is bodybuilding style bench and powerlifting style bench

[trap_builder]

When I did barbell bench presses I felt my chest really sore the days after.

But according to some graphs indicating muscle activity posted by a new guy in the forums, even the MEDIAL DELT gets worked more during the bench press than the chest!"!

hes got his site:

revised-training.com

[Danik]

Personally I think DB Presses are better than Bench Presses for developing the chest. It basically comes down to the fact that you have to have more control over the weight so that may be why some people feel it is tougher on their shoulders. Try to do the same weight in DB Presses that you do in Bench Presses. More than likely you can't.

[hyp3r3xt3nsion]

Originally posted by Danik
Personally I think DB Presses are better than Bench Presses for developing the chest. It basically comes down to the fact that you have to have more control over the weight so that may be why some people feel it is tougher on their shoulders. Try to do the same weight in DB Presses that you do in Bench Presses. More than likely you can't.

it's tougher on their shouldres because bb uses more shoulders (which is why it's possible to have very weak shoulders, a sucky incline bench, yet a strong incline db bench)

or if you're talking in terms of injuries, it's 'tougher' onthe shoulders because most people bench improperly- they use elbows out (instead of elbows in), which is biomechanically a weak position and stresses the shoulders

[The Engineer]

Originally posted by BenchpressER
wat exactly is bodybuilding style bench and powerlifting style bench

bump.. curious as well..

Heisman, your thoughts?

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Originally posted by BenchpressER
wat exactly is bodybuilding style bench and powerlifting style bench

bodybuilding: lying flat, touching barbell to pecks

powerlifting: arched back, shoulders back, touching barbell to lower chest/upper abs