After 15 years, this physique can still own everyone on the Olymia stage.

[buffgrk]

Yates had the best front lat spread EVER. PERIOD. k.

[Mr. Shoulders]

If Dorian was competing today he would be training...and if he were training he would be hard to beat...

[Loctus]

Yates had the best front lat spread EVER. PERIOD. k.

LMFAO. Best front latspread ever belongs to 03 Ronnie, have fun even trying to argue that it doesn't.



Show me a onstage photo of Dorian which beats that. Good Luck mate.

[lancs_hotpot]

LMFAO. Best front latspread ever belongs to 03 Ronnie, have fun even trying to argue that it doesn't.



Show me a onstage photo of Dorian which beats that. Good Luck mate.

wow that took me all of 5 seconds

[lancs_hotpot]

And again.

[Loctus]

"Show me a onstage photo of Dorian which beats that."

[Reisinger850]

wow that took me all of 5 seconds

Strong double fail.

Your photo isn't on stage and moreover doesn't beat Coleman.

How can you not see that Coleman wins that shot?

Coleman has in contrast to Yates:

chest striations, much much much better arms, bigger everything except maybe calves and is not so blocky than Dorian.


Who wins?

Right. Ronnie.

[foshobombdiggity]

LMFAO. Best front latspread ever belongs to 03 Ronnie, have fun even trying to argue that it doesn't.



Show me a onstage photo of Dorian which beats that. Good Luck mate.

this picture always makes me laugh because it looks like ronnies chest shoulders etc are eating his head. thats the face of a champion.

btw ronnie kills dorian in this pose.

[Zeneth]

Lol...look at the arm difference...

[KevinSorbo]

wow that took me all of 5 seconds

LOL STRONG fail. Not only does it CLEARLY not beat Coleman, but its not even on stage. LOL

[Whey Hey]

And again.

I love Ronnie, as does everyone, but this shot kills it..... definately on parr with Ron, if not better..

[KevinSorbo]

I love Ronnie, as does everyone, but this shot kills it..... definately on parr with Ron, if not better..

Black and whites always look better. Not to mention Ronnie is bigger and leaner in the stage pic.

[Loctus]

[Emmortal]

Thanks for the laughs.

Thankfully the IFBB seems to have evolved from just awarding most mass like it did in Dorian's day.

Evolved since when? Just because they gave Dex the win last year doesn't indicate a definitive move toward smaller guys, just yet.

Dorian was more than just mass, saying so just proves you have utterly no clue what you are talking about. He had incredible conditioning in addition to to his insane mass. He had his weakpoints, biceps and chest not being his greatest, but when looked at from a judging standpoint, he was one of the greatest to ever hit the stage. Currently there isn't anyone competing who even comes close to him or Ronnie. Wolf is about the only guy who has the structure to come close, but we'll see how he turns out.

[Reisinger850]

Yates had the best front lat spread EVER. PERIOD. k.

After you could see the last pictures above of Ronnie, you have a last chance to correct yourself.

k.

[lancs_hotpot]

I love Ronnie he's superb and one of the best ever. but on those stage pics you struggle to even find his lats. Dorian's are huge and the first thing you think when he hits the pose is 'f*ck me look at those lats!', not arms and chest. Ronnie's front lat spread was a lot better earlier on in his career when you could see them. The pics you guys just posted just look like a huge mass of muscle, which is great but like i said the pose doesnt emphasize his lats. That is my reason for prefering Dorian's lat spread.

[the-craig]

Not a fan of Dorian, I think he would get beat today due to changing trends, and Ronnie blows him away in all poses apart from Side Triceps, and Abs thigh (only in Ronnies later days).

[meathead320]

I love Ronnie he's superb and one of the best ever. but on those stage pics you struggle to even find his lats. Dorian's are huge and the first thing you think when he hits the pose is 'f*ck me look at those lats!', not arms and chest. Ronnie's front lat spread was a lot better earlier on in his career when you could see them. The pics you guys just posted just look like a huge mass of muscle, which is great but like i said the pose doesnt emphasize his lats. That is my reason for prefering Dorian's lat spread.

It has more to do with how Ronnie leans forward when doing it.

Dorian would lean back.

[wilwn]

i personally like dorian's front lat spread more, just because of the way his lats just pop out at you.

but overall, there's no question that ronnie wins. the muscularity, separation, striations, everything

[Darren in Gym]

[affliction_]

wow that took me all of 5 seconds

I gotta say that is the best front lat spread pic I've ever seen and one of the best bb'ing pics too.

[Loctus]

Yet again, off stage.

edit: and b&w

[NWA_Muscle]

Ya, Ya, I love Ronnie Not... It is funny how most people commenting about Dorian did not even no what weights were when he retired. The reason Ronnie carries more mass is he has 20 extra pounds of gyno, not to mention his ugly as hell mid section. The problem with most people and bodybuilding today is they automaticly think the bigger guy should win regardless of the fact if he looks like **** or not. Shawn Ray was one of the best looking bodybuilders of all time and he stood on stage at around 205, 210 but looking at pics you would never no it, How many of you have ever seen Ronnie, Dorian, Flex, Shawn or any other bodybuilder on stage? I promise you Dorian looks better than Ronnie.

[buffgrk]

After you could see the last pictures above of Ronnie, you have a last chance to correct yourself.

k.

i saw them so what?.. i still think dorians lat spread beats ronnie's, im not going to change my decision cause all of you guys are on the ronnie ***wagon.

K?

[ChampKind]

i'd like to see a comparison shot of Wolf and Yates hitting a front lat spread. not saying Wolf would win but it would be interesting to see

[woofman81]

Ya, Ya, I love Ronnie Not... It is funny how most people commenting about Dorian did not even no what weights were when he retired. The reason Ronnie carries more mass is he has 20 extra pounds of gyno, not to mention his ugly as hell mid section. The problem with most people and bodybuilding today is they automaticly think the bigger guy should win regardless of the fact if he looks like **** or not. Shawn Ray was one of the best looking bodybuilders of all time and he stood on stage at around 205, 210 but looking at pics you would never no it, How many of you have ever seen Ronnie, Dorian, Flex, Shawn or any other bodybuilder on stage? I promise you Dorian looks better than Ronnie.

You promise me Dorian looks better than Ronnie?

LOL HAHAHAHAHA NOT!

Who had more Olympia wins? Ronnie
Who had a better back? Ronnie
Who had better arms? Ronnie
Who had a better chest? Ronnie
Who had better quads and hams? Ronnie

Uhhh ok, i'll give Dorian two bodyparts.

Dorian wins calves and midsection. Wooohoo.

[Kiwi_]

i'd like to see a comparison shot of Wolf and Yates hitting a front lat spread. not saying Wolf would win but it would be interesting to see

Really rough comparison.

[morderstwo]

it is true that he'd win today with his 93 form.
thats the way i read it but i think it was misinterpreted along the way.
it doesnt mean his top form has not been surpassed yet.
ronnie's 03 form wont be beaten for prolly the next 20 yrs.
ronnie in 98,99,03,05 was still better than yates' best ever form.

The reason Ronnie carries more mass is he has 20 extra pounds of gyno, not to mention his ugly as hell mid section. The problem with most people and bodybuilding today is they automaticly think the bigger guy should win regardless of the fact if he looks like **** or not. Shawn Ray was one of the best looking bodybuilders of all time and he stood on stage at around 205, 210 but looking at pics you would never no it, How many of you have ever seen Ronnie, Dorian, Flex, Shawn or any other bodybuilder on stage? I promise you Dorian looks better than Ronnie.

strong logic.
ray & wheeler lookin impressive at lighter weights is evidence that yates must have been better than ronnie ???
both ronnie & yates compromised their midsections towards the latter stages of career. the difference was not very much



u promise us yates looks better than ronnie because u saw yates, flex & ray onstage?
i dont see the connection.
is that when u had the future flash before your eyes & imagined ronnie there as well in his olympia winning form?


& btw, ruhl & fux never won olympias

[antish]

it is true that he'd win today with his 93 form.
thats the way i read it but i think it was misinterpreted along the way.
it doesnt mean his top form has not been surpassed yet.
ronnie's 03 form wont be beaten for prolly the next 20 yrs.
ronnie in 98,99,03,05 was still better than yates' best ever form.





strong logic.
ray & wheeler lookin impressive at lighter weights is evidence that yates must have been better than ronnie ???
both ronnie & yates compromised their midsections towards the latter stages of career. the difference was not very much



u promise us yates looks better than ronnie because u saw yates, flex & ray onstage?
i dont see the connection.
is that when u had the future flash before your eyes & imagined ronnie there as well in his olympia winning form?


& btw, ruhl & fux never won olympias

at least someone who understands the point of this thread lol.

i knew it was just a question of time before it would turn into a vs. ronnie thread.

as much as i love big ron,clavicle width and lat sweep play a big role in the front and rear lat spread. the fact is that ronnie, as great as he is, did not have the best structure. monstrous ribcage but relatively narrow clavicles.

[themattlike]

i think Dennis Wolf's front lat spread is way better. but Dorian obviously wins overall....wait i mean to say Ronnie wins overall ;P