What should i use for PCT after Tren?

[BigD11]

In my 2nd week cycle of Xtreme Tren. Dont have any side effects yet. When i get off my cycle what should i get for a PCT or do i even need one for xtreme tren?

[xpunksurferx]

this is something you should have already planned out....id say reversitol and clomid therapy but lets the vets chime in

[VaughnTrue]

In my 2nd week cycle of Xtreme Tren. Dont have any side effects yet. When i get off my cycle what should i get for a PCT or do i even need one for xtreme tren?

try this in the supplement section. Reversitol is the most commonly used OTC PCT product right now and for good reason.

[N4cer]

BigD11, what makes you think you need some different PCT for this product? Recovery is recovery, despite the hormone. If you want decades of proof of efficacy, get some Clomiphene, Tamoxifen, or Toremifene.

[krisinstl]

BigD11, what makes you think you need some different PCT for this product? Recovery is recovery, despite the hormone. If you want decades of proof of efficacy, get some Clomiphene, Tamoxifen, or Toremifene.

x4553

[krisinstl]

try this in the supplement section. Reversitol is the most commonly used OTC PCT product right now and for good reason.

reversitol is made by i-force.


just sayin'...


grain of salt.

[rippedout]

try this in the supplement section. Reversitol is the most commonly used OTC PCT product right now and for good reason.

no hate vaughn, but youre telling this guy to take it to the supplement section. yet youre pimping out reversitol here and trying to sell your supplements to the aas section in your 'if a supplement company' thread. whats the deal? i like this section because every thread isnt biased by a company rep trying to make a buck. i say take the reversitol and your legal supplements to the supplement section.

[1bebigger]

no hate vaughn, but youre telling this guy to take it to the supplement section. yet youre pimping out reversitol here and trying to sell your supplements to the aas section in your 'if a supplement company' thread. whats the deal? i like this section because every thread isnt biased by a company rep trying to make a buck. i say take the reversitol and your legal supplements to the supplement section.

lol, repped

[VaughnTrue]

no hate vaughn, but youre telling this guy to take it to the supplement section. yet youre pimping out reversitol here and trying to sell your supplements to the aas section in your 'if a supplement company' thread. whats the deal? i like this section because every thread isnt biased by a company rep trying to make a buck. i say take the reversitol and your legal supplements to the supplement section.

the guy asked about a legal compound and a legal pct. i gave him the best advise there is.


if he said "should i take nolva or clomid" i wouldn't have given advise.

[drolfreak]

Strictly speaking he didnt mention a 'legal' PCT at all, but lets all move on.

OP, since you've went with an OTC supplement i dont really understand why your asking about PCT in the AAS section, your question seems better suited to the supplement section.

The options on what you can take for PCT have been posted, so i wont chime in with my opinion, the only thing i will say is YES, you will need PCT

[N4cer]

the guy asked about a legal compound and a legal pct. i gave him the best advise there is.


if he said "should i take nolva or clomid" i wouldn't have given advise.

Where did he say OTC PCT? Nowhere. And he never said legal either. Even if he had, research chems aren't illegal. So you are only advertising, not helping. Don't bring that supplement kiddie crap over here. We prefer honesty, and you just blatantly misled the original poster.

[krisinstl]

i gave him the best advise there is.

lololololol



Take the sales pitches to the supp forum dude, we're tired of it.

[VaughnTrue]

lololololol



Take the sales pitches to the supp forum dude, we're tired of it.

lol ok guys. sounds good.

[krisinstl]

lol ok guys. sounds good.

thanks for the neg, we (myself and many others) still don't like you..

[krisinstl]

are you serious? ATD + LongJack???



And who said I'm acting tough? You want me to post pics?

What does size/physique have to do with intelligence?

Nothing. I'm arguing with you over advice you're giving, not who is bigger.


GTFO.

[N4cer]

Post some pics is for gay guys who want to pick you up.

[VaughnTrue]

are you serious? ATD + LongJack???



And who said I'm acting tough? You want me to post pics?

What does size/physique have to do with intelligence?

Nothing. I'm arguing with you over advice you're giving, not who is bigger.


GTFO.

for a product like tren xtreme? lol atd + longjack is more than enough.


the otc hormones BARELY shut you down if any...its funny how you guys all say "otc hormones are bull**** they dont work" but you still insist people use a serm for them...


ive used halodrol, havoc, superdrol, and trenadrol with OTC pct's and my bloodwork/test levels were all just as good if not better than times I used serms.


I'm not saying people should use otc PCT for aas cycles. I've never ONCE said that. However for a 2-4week OTC cycle, otc PCT makes damn good sense.

[krisinstl]

for a product like tren xtreme? lol atd + longjack is more than enough.


the otc hormones BARELY shut you down if any...its funny how you guys all say "otc hormones are bull**** they dont work" but you still insist people use a serm for them...


ive used halodrol, havoc, superdrol, and trenadrol with OTC pct's and my bloodwork/test levels were all just as good if not better than times I used serms.


I'm not saying people should use otc PCT for aas cycles. I've never ONCE said that. However for a 2-4week OTC cycle, otc PCT makes damn good sense.

I've never said that OTC hormones are bull**** and don't work. I know damn well they work GREAT. Unfortunately, many are untested and unproven in the world of bodybuilding, and I personally feel it is safer to use tried and true AAS instead.

what I HAVE said is that OTC PCT products are bull**** and usually don't work. Ever tried coming off of superdrol with 6-oxo? Yep, I have. And they dont' even make that **** anymore (6oxo)

otc hormones barely shut you down?

ARE YOU FUKCING RETARDED?

I see you posting in the supplement section ALL the time saying that reversitol will be JUST FINE for HDROL, HAVOC, etc.

THOSE ARE NOT HORMONES, THOSE ARE FULL FLEDGED AAS.



You used OTC PCT's for superdrol, havoc, and hdrol? Bro if you're going to compete why aren't you just using regular AAS? You say you got bloodwork done and your levels were better if not the same?

I challenge you to post your bloodwork results from as many times as you have had your levels checked recently

You want to challenge me to post pics when it doesn't pertain to the argument? Post your blood work.

OH, and let me clarify:

PICTURES of your bloodwork, only the name/address/social can be edited/covered up, and you have to have your username written on the blood work/ something near/on the bloodwork. Or a spoon.

I call bull**** on you and your supposed studies you always post about in the supp section.

There is no way that your blood work was 'just fine if not better' after using a normal cycle of superdrol, and an otc pct for pct. And what exactly did you use for superdrol pct? I know damn well it wasn't reversitol, that wasn't out then. What was it? 6-oxo? rebound xt?

[krisinstl]

I'm not saying people should use otc PCT for aas cycles. I've never ONCE said that. However for a 2-4week OTC cycle, otc PCT makes damn good sense.

Yes, you have said that.

Havoc, Halodrol, Superdrol, and Pheraplex are AAS. Just as suppressive. Tiny modifications. They are oral steroids. Do I need to find your posts in threads recommending Reversitol for Havoc, Halodrol, etc?

Just because something is "OTC" does NOT mean it is safe OR legit.

Maybe Reversitol is good after a cycle of MassFX... but not halodrol, havoc, or superdrol

[krisinstl]

You said in PM that a 4 week cycle does not give a hard hit to the HPTA, and that's why reversitol is just fine for PCT.

How about this: (oh, and it's legit, because people asking for help don't usually skew their numbers. on the other hand, a company trying to sell a product might skew numbers for a 'supposed' test subject)


http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...d.php?p=641165


MODS, sorry to link to MD, if need be I can screenshot or copy/paste

[krisinstl]

wat u got vt?

[1bebigger]

wat u got vt?

lmao

[C. Griswald]

Xtreme Tren lulz, sounds hardcore11111111111!!!!!!!

[1bebigger]

Xtreme Tren lulz, sounds hardcore11111111111!!!!!!!

Duh, it must be if you need

Reversitol is the most commonly used OTC PCT product right now and for good reason.

anything that needs

Reversitol is the most commonly used OTC PCT product right now and for good reason.

and when in doubt, just pick up some

Reversitol is the most commonly used OTC PCT product right now and for good reason.

[Alec Trevelyan]

Where did he say OTC PCT? Nowhere. And he never said legal either. Even if he had, research chems aren't illegal. So you are only advertising, not helping. Don't bring that supplement kiddie crap over here. We prefer honesty, and you just blatantly misled the original poster.

I got to agree with my boy here.

[bba149]

the otc hormones BARELY shut you down if any...

don't the bloodtest results you always show for reversitol show the guy's test at almost zero after the cycle?

[lth]

Xtreme Tren lulz, sounds hardcore11111111111!!!!!!!

op....seriously?

[allenkster]

words have escaped me after seeing that pic...

[bdiesel]

fyi there is a huge difference between tren and extreme tren.

[brianhaake]

just saying, i took havoc last year, i took A.I. Post cycle , and it was fine and thats something i would consider over the counter. I have nolva ofcourse on hand, but i didnt take it and wasnt going to unless i needed to. Havoc is pretty mild,but is fantastic. I heard tren xtreme was a joke though. But to get to the point, What i took is trans resveratrol , same as whats in the reversitol supp. there is other **** in it though so idk how good it is but i know what i took was fine. My test levels are still through the roof, never had a shutdown.