Reversitol & PCS? or pick one? (REPS)

[benjamin0]

I am sure there is a thread like this one out there, but I can't find it, so here it goes:

I have Epistane on hand. Thinking I will run Epistane on a bulk at usual doses for a newb. I have 2 Reversitol, 2 Cycle Supports, and 2 Post Cylce Supports all in my cupboard as well. (gotta love Wheycheap and Team AI deals!)

So if I am trying to figure out my PCT for this, and am wondering if JUST Reversitol is fine, or if I should throw PCS in on top of that. It seems like a lot of Trans-Resveratrol to me, but better safe than sorry, right?

Opinions or others with Havoc/Epistane OTC PCT experience?

[marine11286]

I am sure there is a thread like this one out there, but I can't find it, so here it goes:

I have Epistane on hand. Thinking I will run Epistane on a bulk at usual doses for a newb. I have 2 Reversitol, 2 Cycle Supports, and 2 Post Cylce Supports all in my cupboard as well. (gotta love Wheycheap and Team AI deals!)

So if I am trying to figure out my PCT for this, and am wondering if JUST Reversitol is fine, or if I should throw PCS in on top of that. It seems like a lot of Trans-Resveratrol to me, but better safe than sorry, right?

Opinions or others with Havoc/Epistane OTC PCT experience?

i would just use both reversitol and pcs. ive seen many logs where ppl use 6-oxo and pcs, so why not just use reversitol and pcs and be safe

[Problem]

Reversitol has low dose of trans-res.

PCS is a test booster, reversitol is an AI.

broscience states to stack an AI + test booster for PCT. Both will help.

You can use reversitol solo for PCT. If you sensed any decrease in libido (which i highly doubt), throw in PCS.

[HeatFuelOxygen]

You'll be just fine with Rev alone. I don't have blood work to back my experience up but I felt 100% post cycle. No need for an elaborate PCT for such a mild compound IMO, but it's your choice

[benjamin0]

i would just use both reversitol and pcs. ive seen many logs where ppl use 6-oxo and pcs, so why not just use reversitol and pcs and be safe

I was THINKING that, but it just seems bit overkill to me. As counter-intuitive as this sounds when talking about PHs/DSs, I don't like throwing a bunhc of stuff into my system when I don't have to. I am not big into elaborate stacks, but would rather get it done with minimal supps. See below \/

Reversitol has low dose of trans-res.

PCS is a test booster, reversitol is an AI.

broscience states to stack an AI + test booster for PCT. Both will help.

You can use reversitol solo for PCT. If you sensed any decrease in libido (which i highly doubt), throw in PCS.

I try to steer clear of broscience when possible . I like the approach you stated, though. I may just take that approach.

You'll be just fine with Rev alone. I don't have blood work to back my experience up but I felt 100% post cycle. No need for an elaborate PCT for such a mild compound IMO, but it's your choice

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It's just always good to get a few opinons first, cause there are those out there who get majorly suppressed very easily.


THANKS FELLAS! all repped

[iForce Dave]

Reversitol has low dose of trans-res.

PCS is a test booster, reversitol is an AI.

broscience states to stack an AI + test booster for PCT. Both will help.

You can use reversitol solo for PCT. If you sensed any decrease in libido (which i highly doubt), throw in PCS.

reversitol is NOT just an AI!

it is much more than that please read the label, its 3 different AI's trans res and a hefty dose of longjack

You'll be just fine with Rev alone. I don't have blood work to back my experience up but I felt 100% post cycle. No need for an elaborate PCT for such a mild compound IMO, but it's your choice

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[Problem]

reversitol is NOT just an AI!

it is much more than that please read the label, its 3 different AI's trans res and a hefty dose of longjack




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trust me, I did read the label when it 1st came out. It is mainly an AI, i just didn't have to elaborate about everything in it. That's why I advised em to run it solo cause it contains the longjack.

[benjamin0]

reversitol is NOT just an AI!

it is much more than that please read the label, its 3 different AI's trans res and a hefty dose of longjack




^^this

Thanks dave

trust me, I did read the label when it 1st came out. It is mainly an AI, i just didn't have to elaborate about everything in it. That's why I advised em to run it solo cause it contains the longjack.

Well, I think I will indeed run it solo, unless I get some real bad shrinkage/libido-drop, in which case PCS will be coming right along side of it. Thanks again fellas.

[Senfeld]

I am planning on starting my havoc as well. It will be my first ph experience...


I plan on running it 20/30/30/30

Then Reversitol Right after.

I will be taking cycle support During my cycle 1 scoop a day.. Should i start taking 1 scoop a day 2 weeks before i start my cycle of havoc?

Plus should i use anything else besides reversitol ?

[EVO-PT]

benjamin0 - This sort of set up for epi will be a good PCT to use:


PCT:

Week 1: Reversitol, 1 cap am, 2 caps pm
Week 2: Reversitol, 1 cap am, 1 cap pm
Week 3: Reversitol, 1 cap am, 1 cap pm, Post cycle support 2 caps AM, 2 caps PM
Week 4: Reversitol, 1 cap pm, Post cycle support 2 caps AM, 2 caps PM
Week 5: Post cycle support 2 caps AM, 2 caps PM
Week 6: Post cycle support 2 caps AM, 2 caps PM


Senfeld -

You should be using a scoop of cycle support in the AM and then again in the PM - 1 scoop AM/1 scoop PM.

You can Pre-load cycle support 7-10 days out from your cycle and you can use 1 scoop a day but i prefer to go 1 scoop AM/1 scoop PM.

Thanks guys - hope this helped! - Thanks for useing Anabolic Innovation products!

[Androgen]

I am sure there is a thread like this one out there, but I can't find it, so here it goes:

I have Epistane on hand. Thinking I will run Epistane on a bulk at usual doses for a newb. I have 2 Reversitol, 2 Cycle Supports, and 2 Post Cylce Supports all in my cupboard as well. (gotta love Wheycheap and Team AI deals!)

So if I am trying to figure out my PCT for this, and am wondering if JUST Reversitol is fine, or if I should throw PCS in on top of that. It seems like a lot of Trans-Resveratrol to me, but better safe than sorry, right?

Opinions or others with Havoc/Epistane OTC PCT experience?

I've used Epistane, seen bloodwork (good and bad) for it. I would only advise a SERM for Epistane. That and nothing else, low dose nolva clomid or torem will do. If its your first cycle, and your not getting pre/post/post PCT bloodwork I really would never recommend anything but a SERM.

If not to answer your question I would use the PCS, because there is nothing in reversitol to make the trans-res bioavailable (so I dont really understand why its in there), whereas there is in PCS.

[phoenixfire]

you will be fine with just reversitol, but I think you should use both just to be on the safe side, there is no such thing as a too agressive pct.

[KmuL]

I like em both together

[benjamin0]

benjamin0 - This sort of set up for epi will be a good PCT to use:


PCT:

Week 1: Reversitol, 1 cap am, 2 caps pm
Week 2: Reversitol, 1 cap am, 1 cap pm
Week 3: Reversitol, 1 cap am, 1 cap pm, Post cycle support 2 caps AM, 2 caps PM
Week 4: Reversitol, 1 cap pm, Post cycle support 2 caps AM, 2 caps PM
Week 5: Post cycle support 2 caps AM, 2 caps PM
Week 6: Post cycle support 2 caps AM, 2 caps PM


Senfeld -

You should be using a scoop of cycle support in the AM and then again in the PM - 1 scoop AM/1 scoop PM.

You can Pre-load cycle support 7-10 days out from your cycle and you can use 1 scoop a day but i prefer to go 1 scoop AM/1 scoop PM.

Thanks guys - hope this helped! - Thanks for useing Anabolic Innovation products!

Thanks for the input man. I have seen this setup before, and it makes sense to me as to why. I am just not seeing a REAL big threat after 6 weeks form a 4 week cycle. BUT, as I said before, always better safe than sorry. I'll be using Cycle support as stated. Repped.

I've used Epistane, seen bloodwork (good and bad) for it. I would only advise a SERM for Epistane. That and nothing else, low dose nolva clomid or torem will do. If its your first cycle, and your not getting pre/post/post PCT bloodwork I really would never recommend anything but a SERM.

If not to answer your question I would use the PCS, because there is nothing in reversitol to make the trans-res bioavailable (so I dont really understand why its in there), whereas there is in PCS.

Thanks for the help. Is there any chance you have a link to the bloodwork? Not that I don't believe you. No doubt in my mind Epi could give hormone results all over the map, but the more info I have the better.

Also, I honestly would have no trouble trying to find sources for PCT ( I DO train at a Gold's Gym renowned for such a thing), but the repercussions of getting caught right now FAR outweigh the possibility of not. I am in a Doctorate program on a Student Visa from Canada, and it has been CLEARLY stated by my school that run-ins with the law or any suspicion of illiegal activity by faculty will be prosecuted thuroughly. There's a chance it would get me booted from school or even the country (due to lack of visa), which I am not real keen on at this level of education. See if you hear me whine about not wanting to do anything illegal, i feel like I have a pretty good excuse.

One more thing, would you mind explaining the bioavailability part with the trans-res? I am not sure how other compounds would affect it's uptake. Reps coming later when I can.

you will be fine with just reversitol, but I think you should use both just to be on the safe side, there is no such thing as a too agressive pct.

I like em both together

Thanks guys. I am still unsure, but looking down the road, better safe than sorry, and I have 2 of each Rev and PCS anyways, and I doubt I will ever do 4 cycles. Reps coming later.

[KmuL]

Thanks for the input man. I have seen this setup before, and it makes sense to me as to why. I am just not seeing a REAL big threat after 6 weeks form a 4 week cycle. BUT, as I said before, always better safe than sorry. I'll be using Cycle support as stated. Repped.



Thanks for the help. Is there any chance you have a link to the bloodwork? Not that I don't believe you. No doubt in my mind Epi could give hormone results all over the map, but the more info I have the better.

Also, I honestly would have no trouble trying to find sources for PCT ( I DO train at a Gold's Gym renowned for such a thing), but the repercussions of getting caught right now FAR outweigh the possibility of not. I am in a Doctorate program on a Student Visa from Canada, and it has been CLEARLY stated by my school that run-ins with the law or any suspicion of illiegal activity by faculty will be prosecuted thuroughly. There's a chance it would get me booted from school or even the country (due to lack of visa), which I am not real keen on at this level of education. See if you hear me whine about not wanting to do anything illegal, i feel like I have a pretty good excuse.

One more thing, would you mind explaining the bioavailability part with the trans-res? I am not sure how other compounds would affect it's uptake. Reps coming later when I can.





Thanks guys. I am still unsure, but looking down the road, better safe than sorry, and I have 2 of each Rev and PCS anyways, and I doubt I will ever do 4 cycles. Reps coming later.

correct dosing when stacked:

Reversitol
3/2/2/1

PCS
0/0/4/4/4/4

[Androgen]

Thanks for the help. Is there any chance you have a link to the bloodwork? Not that I don't believe you. No doubt in my mind Epi could give hormone results all over the map, but the more info I have the better.

Also, I honestly would have no trouble trying to find sources for PCT ( I DO train at a Gold's Gym renowned for such a thing), but the repercussions of getting caught right now FAR outweigh the possibility of not. I am in a Doctorate program on a Student Visa from Canada, and it has been CLEARLY stated by my school that run-ins with the law or any suspicion of illiegal activity by faculty will be prosecuted thuroughly. There's a chance it would get me booted from school or even the country (due to lack of visa), which I am not real keen on at this level of education. See if you hear me whine about not wanting to do anything illegal, i feel like I have a pretty good excuse.-/quote]

Thats understandable. I dont have any links to epi bloodwork. Think theres some floating around at AM, and maybe even here, but I havent been on the boards much lately so forgetting where things are!
I've seen my buddies post cycle and post PCT bloodwork on Epi though, was pretty shutdown, but recovered well (low dose nolva PCT)

One more thing, would you mind explaining the bioavailability part with the trans-res? I am not sure how other compounds would affect it's uptake. Reps coming later when I can.

Look at PCS ingredients panel. It has other compounds to increase the bioavailabilty of the trans-res. As does 6-oxo extreme (and most other trans-res products). Without them, the body will only absorb so much.

[benjamin0]

correct dosing when stacked:

Reversitol
3/2/2/1

PCS
0/0/4/4/4/4

Thanks man, noted.

Look at PCS ingredients panel. It has other compounds to increase the bioavailabilty of the trans-res. As does 6-oxo extreme (and most other trans-res products). Without them, the body will only absorb so much.

Would you mind telling me exactly how this works are linking me up? I am really not seeing the science here.

[iForce_Pete]

Both solid products. Reversitol should be enough bro!