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11-21-2008, 05:34 PM #31Godhand502 = the man!
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11-21-2008, 05:37 PM #32
Brock Lesnar is tiny compared to the mass monsters. He is tiny only because he doesn't carry as much muscle size than Coleman. But when you compare Lesnar's frame, clavicles, bone size, just the basic structural frame to these mass monsters, he can't be dwarf. The point here is that I'm not asking you to compare Lesnar to Coleman because Coleman, being only 5'11" doesn't have the overall intimidating size, height and gigantic structure of Lesnar. MMA fighters will be more intimidated by someone the size of Lesnar than a 5'11", 300-pound ripped freak in Coleman.
Again, Coleman will dwarfs Lesnar on sheer muscle volume and size but Lesnar beats Coleman on sheer natural size. Coleman is a freak because he's carrying TOO MUCH muscle weight on his 5'11" frame (which is smaller than Lesnar's frame). Lesnar's freakiness is based around the fact that his 6'3" frame looks much bigger than your average 6'3" frame and his hands and fists are so big that the UFC have to custom made his own gloves to fit. I mean Lesnar is a natural giant who has the proportions of a seven-foot man.
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11-21-2008, 05:40 PM #33
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There are pretty much no pros who don't have freakishly large frames for their height. The freak factor of Lesnar's frame is not even close to Ruhls, Dennis James, Orville Burke and so on. Those guys would eclipse Lesnar, and not because they are so much more muscular, but because they are naturally so much wider.
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11-21-2008, 05:44 PM #34
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11-21-2008, 05:45 PM #35
I agree that the mass monsters they just might be a LITTLE wider than Lesnar because I'm not arguing that. My point is that Lesnar has naturally bigger frame and wider clavicles than them because not only is he 6'3" but, again, he also has the frame of a much taller man.
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11-21-2008, 05:47 PM #36
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11-21-2008, 06:35 PM #37
Did you read my last post? I think you should..
Another comment to make.. how can you determine if Lesnar is 'naturally wider' then anyone else? With height (i'm 6"3) you can infact have a smaller frame in width then someone with a height of 5"10 or 5"7..
Without a picture of Lesnar as a teenager and without the other bb's as comparison you cannot make this judgement..
However, many bodybuilders succeed because of there genetic makeup which is obvious.. part of their genetic make up is relevant in determing details for success i.e. 'bone structure' including shoulder width.. I would be more inclined to believe a bodybuilder has a naturally wider bone structure then a professional fighter.. If this wasn't the case, it would be evident to see Lesnar a lot wider then he is at his weight,. aswell as seeking an alternate path, including professional bodybuilding..
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11-21-2008, 06:38 PM #38
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11-21-2008, 06:41 PM #39
Pro BB's are generally wider because of excess delt muscles but Lesnar is wide not because of excess muscles but because he is naturally wide. I'm not saying Markus Ruhl is not naturally wide. I'm only saying that Lesnar is very wide for his height and add to that the fact that he is bulky so it makes him more of a natural freak than somebody who carries excess muscle over a not-so-wide clavicle like Coleman for example.
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11-21-2008, 06:43 PM #40
LOFL.
Brock is like 6'5, ronnie coleman is like 5'5.
I'm sorry but brock>ronnie
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11-21-2008, 06:46 PM #41
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11-21-2008, 06:47 PM #42
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11-21-2008, 06:54 PM #43
Ronnie Coleman incomparison to say Markus Ruhl:: the shoulder width is obvious.. Ruhl wins hands down.. You can only build your shoulders to what genetically is possible.. Ruhl can have what you call 'excess muscle' because he is naturally gifted in this area, whereas Ronnie Coleman wouldn't be able to produce the same results..
It's the same with Lesnar.. Lesnar is limited to his width that he has been given in a genetic matter.. He is by no means wider than any bodybuilder which you have stated today... You can not at any stage compare professional bodybuilders to fighters and say that they are naturally wider then the pro bb..
It's like saying Markus Ruhl is naturally a better fighter than Brock Lesnar.. The comment has no merit.. You should never compare a professional athlete of speciality to another
BB have genetic gifts over others
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You have no clue what your talking aboutLast edited by NaturalLoco; 11-21-2008 at 06:56 PM.
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11-21-2008, 07:00 PM #44
Christ.. get a grip
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11-21-2008, 07:04 PM #45
brock is a genuinely large dude who would have played d - line if he played football
most bodybuilders are athletic people who would have been runningbacks and defensive backs had they played football (even ruhl and nasser said they were 120 pounds when they started)
bodybuilders are typically small frame people with awesome muscle genetics, and people like brock are big frame people with awesome muscle genetics, ofcourse bbers would have proportionaly big frames but that doesnt make it genuinely big like brock
its clear that brock is an endomorph leaned out and most bbers are mesomorphs (besides evan centopani and trey brewer)
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11-21-2008, 07:06 PM #46
I'm only speaking for Lesnar and not MMA fighters in general. Lesnar is 6'3" and if you look at your average 6'3" adult men they're not naturally as wide as Lesnar. And since Lesnar also lifts weights like bodybuilders and he bulks up, it makes him wider still and I keep on saying that his natural bone structure is gigantic. Randy Couture who is 6'2" and 220 pounds looked like a child beside Lesnar and to think that Lesnar is only one inch taller than Couture. Lesnar is a hulk.
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11-21-2008, 07:11 PM #47
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11-21-2008, 07:13 PM #48
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11-21-2008, 07:18 PM #49
Lesnar was born to be big and that's the point here. He's size is genuine or authentic.
But to answer the question, maybe Markus Ruhl is the man to match Brock.
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11-21-2008, 07:19 PM #50
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11-21-2008, 07:23 PM #51
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11-21-2008, 07:29 PM #52
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11-21-2008, 07:30 PM #53
How about posting some pictures of him dwarfing big guys? because he looks like crap on his own.
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11-21-2008, 07:31 PM #54
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11-21-2008, 07:32 PM #55
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11-21-2008, 07:50 PM #56
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11-21-2008, 08:05 PM #57
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11-21-2008, 08:22 PM #58
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11-21-2008, 08:35 PM #59
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11-21-2008, 08:36 PM #60
So basically you're impressed by this guy because he's tall and of a solid build?
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