Donald Trump’s New York Criminal Trial Begins Monday

[SaltyDog920]

Can you post anything about me without lying? Honest question. I never, ever, said Trump was a Russian puppet. Personally I highly doubt someone as clever and Machiavellian - and WELL versed in propaganda and spy craft - would bring Trump into the loop. Guaranteed he would spill the beans. That doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t wish he could be Putin and it doesn’t mean Russia didn’t do what they could to get him elected.

Who do you think Russia wants to win Trump v. Biden 2.0?

I likened your 'dRummphh eye fkn Putin' to being a Russian puppet. Apologies for misconstruing your extermely eloquently phrased point.

Why the **** would I care what Russia or any foreign entity thinks about who they'd prefer as the USA's president? Iran would have preferred 0bama as he was sending them pallets of money. Israel prefers dRummph. Palestine prefers not dRummphh. I don't care.

[~Hades~]

“Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!”

Kind of cute you think a pathological liar not doing what he said he would is proof of his kindness or integrity. FFS, I’ve got some magic beans to sell you.



The election was November 3rd. He didn’t concede until Jan. 7th after the failed storming of the Capitol. He also swore he would never concede to Biden.

But … you know facts … what good are those if they don’t fit your Trumper world building fantasy.

And you Trumpers have been using this media line since day one. Nooooo, it’s impossible for anyone to legitimately think Trump is an unhinged danger. NOOOOO, I must be “programmed.”

And I despise Maddow, she’s the liberal Tucker. Never heard Goldberg once, aside from Star Trek.

but a dictator wouldnt concede right? wouldnt leave the white house either

did he pursue anything against clinton? so again, who is locking who up? you leftists claim he will lock up his political adversaries. so you guys are...*checks notes*...locking him up first?

failed storming of the capitol? the one where police let people in to take selfies?

[Retoaded]

I likened your 'dRummphh eye fkn Putin' to being a Russian puppet. Apologies for misconstruing your extermely eloquently phrased point.

Why the **** would I care what Russia or any foreign entity thinks about who they'd prefer as the USA's president? Iran would have preferred 0bama as he was sending them pallets of money. Israel prefers dRummph. Palestine prefers not dRummphh. I don't care.

Not to mention China strongly prefers dems. Not sure how old yall are but Bill Clinton took over 3 million in campaign donations from Chinese communist party officials. There were intermediaries who went to federal prison over it. Janet Reno stopped the investigation before it got too high once they had a couple fall guys.

Coincidentally he took a 1 million dollar donation from an aerospace company.

Coincidentally after elected he allowed ballistic missile technology owned by the aerospace company to be sold to the Chinese government as a part of the free trade deal.

And here we are worried about Russian ******** memes.

[~Hades~]

Not to mention China strongly prefers dems. Not sure how old yall are but Bill Clinton took over 3 million in campaign donations from Chinese communist party officials. There were intermediaries who went to federal prison over it. Janet Reno stopped the investigation before it got too high once they had a couple fall guys.

Coincidentally he took a 1 million dollar donation from an aerospace company.

Coincidentally after elected he allowed ballistic missile technology owned by the aerospace company to be sold to the Chinese government as a part of the free trade deal.

And here we are worried about Russian ******** memes.

feinstein been working for china for decades

swallwell on china payroll

******* mitch on china payroll

[rampagefc77]

Never in my lifetime has a President argued for immunity like this. It’s insane. Let’s assume he gets it - what’s stopping Biden from having him killed that same day?

And I notice you ignored the part where he floated the idea of more than two terms. Someone in the NRA crowd apparently shouted he should have three. It’s only been since 1951 that two terms was law and not a norm. Look how hard he tried to hold power when he lost to Biden. No President has ever done that. He practically eye fcks Putin. He saluted a North Korean general. This is not a man who respects our institutions and no - you can’t pawn that off as conformation bias from “the media.”

No other president has ever been charged with a crime, so of course nobody has ever had to argue for presidential immunity for official presidential actions. I think that point was lost on you...

Any talk of more of 2 terms is pure lunacy driven by watching too much CNN.

You say he eye fcuks Putin, but Biden literally altered US policy to personally enrich himself and his family in multiple foreign countries. He is in bed with China, who is our #1 political foe. 10% to the big guy-- or are we forgetting?

Trump tried so hard to hold on to power-- he argued that the election was corrupt (it objectively was), and he left office when his term ended. There was a protest that got out of hand. The left had protests in DC while he was president that burned a church, injured more police officers, a guy trying to kill trump stormed the capital and trump had to retreat to a bunker-- the media mocked trump. No mention of harmful optics, politics, media reporting driving insane people

The institutions are corrupted and need to be reformed. They largely control politics at the moment. All politicians walk around in fear of the surveillance state. intel can manufacture crimes on anyone. They run the show.

The greatest attempt to overthrow an election was clinton and crew bring false intel into the FBI, and a 2 year investigation in which everyone knew there was nothing there. THAT was a silent coup. Insidious. It tried to overthrow an official or control him from within. THAT is the real threat. Nobody is going to march into DC and overthrow our systems. We will be destoryed from within, and people will cheer it on as the media is no different than russian state run media at this point.

[rampagefc77]

Not to mention China strongly prefers dems. Not sure how old yall are but Bill Clinton took over 3 million in campaign donations from Chinese communist party officials. There were intermediaries who went to federal prison over it. Janet Reno stopped the investigation before it got too high once they had a couple fall guys.

Coincidentally he took a 1 million dollar donation from an aerospace company.

Coincidentally after elected he allowed ballistic missile technology owned by the aerospace company to be sold to the Chinese government as a part of the free trade deal.

And here we are worried about Russian ******** memes.

Biden just lofted a "100% EV tariff on china..." when china just invested billions in EV factories in Mexico. So all of the chinese EVs are going to come to the US tariff-free from mexico using USMCA. Way to go Biden! You sure got China this time! 10% more to the big guy!

Trump tried to unravel decades of politicians being corrupted by china, only to have china outlast his term and go right back to their buddy biden.

[miscinbro]

Any talk of more of 2 terms is pure lunacy driven by watching too much CNN.

Ok, I don’t like doing this - but I stopped there. This isn’t a good faith discussion. And I linked where he LITERALLY floated the idea to the NRA. I didn’t hear this from CNN, I’ve thought for a long time he would go there - so I looked it up - and there it was. Trump floated it in front of a crowd. He referenced LBJ having nearly 16 years in office.

But it’s “pure lunacy” huh?

[Zelensky]

[rampagefc77]

Ok, I don’t like doing this - but I stopped there. This isn’t a good faith discussion. And I linked where he LITERALLY floated the idea to the NRA. I didn’t hear this from CNN, I’ve thought for a long time he would go there - so I looked it up - and there it was. Trump floated it in front of a crowd. He referenced LBJ having nearly 16 years in office.

But it’s “pure lunacy” huh?

For a guy who wants 2+ terms and is the greatest threat to our democracy, he sure gave up his presidential office pretty darn easily. But NEXT TIME!!! THAT'S when it is going to go down.

You lost the fight when you claimed trump was the greatest threat to our democracy, when his predecessor expanded the surveillance state, spied on political opponents, and allowed his intel and judiciary to be weaponized against political opponents. Our politicians are controlled. Few outsiders get in. They need to be independently wealthy and made of teflon with the attacks from media, politicians, etc. You are either completely oblivious, or you choose to live in a fantasy world.

[Maestro]

It’s not bogus because it trump, it’s bogus because it’s bogus. The only reason it exists is because it’s trump during an election year.

Want a threat to our democracy? How about weaponizing intel and our courts?

I can definitely entertain the possibility of trump being innocent, but based on all the scumbags he's always surrounding himself with, I don't see this case as "bogus." Trump has a knack of hiring some pretty slimy scumbags. If nothing comes of this court case then so be it, but I definitely understand why its allowed to take place.

Its like trump is the get-away driver in a bank heist. He's not the one actually committing the crime of robbing the bank, but he's associated with the people that did commit the crime, and time and time again he's always that tertiary individual that loosely linked to someone committing a crime.

[fitnessislife]

Said the quiet part out loud. Oops.

[rampagefc77]

I can definitely entertain the possibility of trump being innocent, but based on all the scumbags he's always surrounding himself with, I don't see this case as "bogus." Trump has a knack of hiring some pretty slimy scumbags. If nothing comes of this court case then so be it, but I definitely understand why its allowed to take place.

Its like trump is the get-away driver in a bank heist. He's not the one actually committing the crime of robbing the bank, but he's associated with the people that did commit the crime, and time and time again he's always that tertiary individual that loosely linked to someone committing a crime.

But what were their “crimes?” Allegations of lying to the fbi in a case in which there was no underlying crime? Papadapolous got a date wrong, Flynn didn’t even lie but they lost the 302 and then claimed he did. Manafort got hit with tax violation charges that were previously passed over by the doj. Cohen got hit on tax violation charges. Rogers stone allegedly told a lie. It’s a whole lot of nonsense “crimes.”

Compare that to the fbi handling of the Clinton investigation. The IG report showed exchanges among agents joking about how the story was constantly changing with all of the lies among the people in her orbit… but everyone got blanket immunity and Clinton got a free pass.


So is trump really surrounded by criminals? Or is it just the fbi hellbent on getting convictions for anything to give that illusion?

[NYPat]

Great witness the defense called to the stand the other day. Surely pissing off the judge to the point he cleared the entire courtroom to rip him a new ******* helped Trump's cause. LOLOL

And didn't Trump just make another comment about the judge? Something like "look at this guy... look where he comes from.."

Hey retard who can't keep his mouth shut and keeps getting in trouble for it... the judge down in Florida protecting you is from the same country.

Fuking moron lol.

[rampagefc77]

Great witness the defense called to the stand the other day. Surely pissing off the judge to the point he cleared the entire courtroom to rip him a new ******* helped Trump's cause. LOLOL

And didn't Trump just make another comment about the judge? Something like "look at this guy... look where he comes from.."

Hey retard who can't keep his mouth shut and keeps getting in trouble for it... the judge down in Florida protecting you is from the same country.

Fuking moron lol.

The theatrics of stormy, Cohen, etc. were all gravy. But as soon as a lawyer comes in and says Cohen is lying, and the judge loses his ****.

More proof of how conflicted the judge is.

[NYPat]

The theatrics of stormy, Cohen, etc. were all gravy. But as soon as a lawyer comes in and says Cohen is lying, and the judge loses his ****.

More proof of how conflicted the judge is.

Trying to show up the judge is moronic level behavior - in any court.

[Stizzel]

The theatrics of stormy, Cohen, etc. were all gravy. But as soon as a lawyer comes in and says Cohen is lying, and the judge loses his ****.

More proof of how conflicted the judge is.

Shows the world what a cesspool the NY court system is. Its full of lunatic judges like this. Essentially you dont get a real hearing until you get to appeals

[rampagefc77]

Trying to show up the judge is moronic level behavior - in any court.

Did you have a livestream? No?

So what, you are classing this on what cnn tells you?

Mmk. It’s why we need public trials- the judge was doing everything to block his testimony.

[bezarker]

[miscinbro]

For a guy who wants 2+ terms and is the greatest threat to our democracy, he sure gave up his presidential office pretty darn easily. But NEXT TIME!!! THAT'S when it is going to go down.

He did not give it up “easily” he fought harder to not give it up than any other President in our history. Now he floats having more than two terms. This coming from a guy who wants complete immunity from prosecution, has zero respect for our institutions, laws, courts, or elections, brags about being able to shoot someone in Times Square, and clearly admires people like Putin.

And people like you think it’s just sooooooo absurd people like me think he’s a threat to our Democracy.

[miscinbro]

I can definitely entertain the possibility of trump being innocent, but based on all the scumbags he's always surrounding himself with, I don't see this case as "bogus." Trump has a knack of hiring some pretty slimy scumbags. If nothing comes of this court case then so be it, but I definitely understand why its allowed to take place.

This, though I would add that even if he’s not convicted he’s made a career of filtering with breaking the law or doing things that result in a fine.

If he’s not convicted I will respect that decision. Can any of the Trumpers say the same if he is? But party of law and order - right?

[SaltyDog920]

He did not give it up “easily” he fought harder to not give it up than any other President in our history. Now he floats having more than two terms.

And people like you think it’s just sooooooo absurd people like me think he’s a threat to our Democracy.

And you're worried about words intended as a joke but actual dictatorial tactics used in an attempt to subvert the 2016 election you 'don't really know much about'.

You're actually a fkn moron and I don't throw that insult around easily. Here's 'dRumpphh's' quote:

“You know, FDR 16 years — almost 16 years — he was four terms. I don’t know, are we going to be considered three-term? Or two-term?” Trump quipped at the National Rifle Association annual meeting, speaking before a crowd of gun rights supporters.

And his other quote from 4 years ago about having a redo because of spying (which ACTUALLY happened based on a fake dossier bought by the Clinton campaign and widely circulated in the media) was also in a joking tone at a rally.


If you read that as he's actually going to try to seek another term if he happens to be elected in 2024, you're truly a partisan moron, srs. It's CLEARLY a joke about how the 2020 election was suspect and that should have been his second term, but now he's campaigning for 2024 again. And CLEARLY it was in a joking tone. You are absolutely pathetic for using this as 'omg! dRummphh is trying to be a dictator!'. You are far BEYOND help if you're literally shaking from this joke. Absolutely pathetic. If this joke made you literally shake, then the Fusion GPS, Steele Dossier (fake Russian propaganda paid for by the Hillary campaign which triggered the FBI to SPY on PRIVATE citizens, the head of dRummph's campaign), then you must be BEYOND petrified.




LOL - I seriously think you just read the headlines about dRummph 'floating a 3rd term' without reading his actual quote. Gotta have that media upload your directives on how to feel.

[NYPat]

Did you have a livestream? No?

So what, you are classing this on what cnn tells you?

Mmk. It’s why we need public trials- the judge was doing everything to block his testimony.

I based it on the transcript. The ACTUAL words said in court.

Mmk.

[miscinbro]

And you're worried about words intended as a joke …

Right. Another Trumper go-to defense. “He was just joking.”

[fitnessislife]

It's like you keep trying to one-up the fact that the left absolutely cannot meme. Lol.

[SaltyDog920]

Right. Another Trumper go-to defense. “He was just joking.”

You're truly a low IQ moron if you're unable to detect humor. It's as clear as day that it was a jab at the suspect 2020 election. You claim to be a lawyer but are unable to use critical thinking. Just lol.



Bizarre that you keep ignoring the Steele Dossier; an extreme example (the worst in the history), whenever it's brought up. A joke makes you literally shake in fear but actual fascism you just ignore.

[rampagefc77]

I based it on the transcript. The ACTUAL words said in court.

Mmk.

We know that the judge lost his ****. But that’s on the judge, not the witness. The judge was going out of his way to hinder the testimony of the witness.

[miscinbro]

You're truly a low IQ moron if you're unable to detect humor. It's as clear as day that it was a jab at the suspect 2020 election. You claim to be a lawyer but are unable to use critical thinking. Just lol.

I got to admit, I’m spending too much time here, but the world you Trumpers create is fascinating to me. In your minds he literally can do no wrong. “It’s a joke.” “It’s fake news.” “It’s a conspiracy.” “Whatabout?” And when that fails you just cling to lies.

The constant insults from some of you are very telling too. Somewhere deep down having to defend him like this is not making you happy and you’re lashing out because your fantasy is being challenged.

[SaltyDog920]

I got to admit, I’m spending too much time here, but the world you Trumpers create is fascinating to me. In your minds he literally can do no wrong. “It’s a joke.” “It’s fake news.” “It’s a conspiracy.” “Whatabout?” And when that fails you just cling to lies.

The constant insults from some of you are very telling too. Somewhere deep down having to defend him like this is not making you happy and you’re lashing out because your fantasy is being challenged.

Again, ignoring the Steele Dossier (actual fascism) to cry about a clear joke in reference the the suspect 2020 election. I'm not defending anyone; I'm calling out your moronic hypocrisy.

[miscinbro]

Again, ignoring the Steele Dossier (actual fascism) to cry about a clear joke in reference the the suspect 2020 election. I'm not defending anyone; I'm calling out your moronic hypocrisy.

Right, out comes good ol’ lying paired with whataboutism. Dash of insults, challenge my integrity. I get why you like Trump.

Here’s the thing. I’m not talking about anything but Trump right now. Show me real evidence of wrongdoing, take them to court, get a conviction. And I will support the proper punishment for anyone.

Can you say the same? Now who’s the hypocrite?

[SaltyDog920]

Right, out comes good ol’ lying paired with whataboutism. Dash of insults, challenge my integrity. I get why you like Trump.

Here’s the thing. I’m not talking about anything but Trump right now. Show me real evidence of wrongdoing, take them to court, get a conviction. And I will support the proper punishment for anyone.

Can you say the same? Now who’s the hypocrite?

Calling out your complete lack of critical thinking isn't defending anyone; is clowning you for being a simple minded NPC. You lefties are such a sore bunch of humorless bots.

But keep literally shaking over a clear joke while ignoring the most blatant fascist tactic ever used on a political opponent.