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    Anyone that isn't a psychotic leftist has figured out by Summer 2020 at the latest Covid is the biggest crock of **** ever
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    More lies..


    a prolonged presence of vaccine mRNA or antigen in the lymph node might be a potential explanation (12). Furthermore, a robust and persistent T follicular helper (TFH) cell response for up to 6 months after mRNA vaccination has been described in draining lymph nodes (17), which might be involved in the regulation of CSR by recurrent interactions of GC B cells with TFH cells.


    All you do is lie..why??
    What is your motive?
    Where's the lie?

    Antigen is supposed to be in the lymph system.

    This quote demonstrates how the covid vaccine under study induced adaptive/acquired immunity.

    You're supporting my argument.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Where's the lie?

    Antigen is supposed to be in the lymph system.

    This quote demonstrates how the covid vaccine under study induced adaptive/acquired immunity.

    You're supporting my argument.
    The studies support my argument lol. They are showing repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, which will inevitably weaken the immune system..and we know this because that is exactly what is happening in the real world.

    Not to mention the fact the lipid nanoparticles, which envelop the modRNA, do not stay in the bloodstream as is the case with a conventional vaccine. Instead, they can basically enter any cell of our body, including key organs such as heart, brain, liver, kidney, lung, spleen, stomach, ovaries and testies
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    The studies support my argument lol. They are showing repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, which will inevitably weaken the immune system..and we know this because that is exactly what is happening in the real world.

    Not to mention the fact the lipid nanoparticles, which envelop the modRNA, do not stay in the bloodstream as is the case with a conventional vaccine. Instead, they can basically enter any cell of our body, including key organs such as heart, brain, liver, kidney, lung, spleen, stomach, ovaries and testies
    It's hard to follow your argumentation because you bounce back and forth between studies without indicating which claim you feel they support.

    In this case, none of the studies support any of the claims, so it's particularly challenging to follow.
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    I think in personal health decisions it's more about want than need
    Sounds like a pathetic way to live your life......
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    It doesn't protect you from getting it though.
    Why do you keep posting this lie, when you know it's a flat-out LIE?



    https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/co...akthrough-data



    https://www.dshs.texas.gov/covid-19-...9-cases-deaths



    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/u...ntry=~All+ages
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    It's hard to follow your argumentation because you bounce back and forth between studies without indicating which claim you feel they support.

    In this case, none of the studies support any of the claims, so it's particularly challenging to follow.
    Study supports the fact that repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, lipid nanoparticles, which envelop the modRNA, do not stay in the bloodstream.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Study supports the fact that repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, lipid nanoparticles, which envelop the modRNA, do not stay in the bloodstream.
    None of the studies you shared support that claim.

    The role of the lymphatic system in immunologic response isn't unique to covid vaccines.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    None of the studies you shared support that claim.

    The role of the lymphatic system in immunologic response isn't unique to covid vaccines.
    Incorrect

    Never claimed it was, it’s the repeated injections (boosters) that lead to non stop production of the antigen
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    Despite its 'nothingburger' reputation COVID-19 remains deadlier than the flu Mask UP
    "There's a narrative out there that the pandemic is over, that it's a nothingburger," Al-Aly said. "We came into this thinking we would do this rematch and find it would be like the flu from now on."

    The VA team examined electronic health records of patients treated in Veterans Affairs hospitals in all 50 states between Oct. 1 and March 27. They zeroed in on patients who were admitted because they had fevers, shortness of breath or other symptoms due to either COVID-19 or influenza. (People who were admitted for another reason, such as a heart attack, and were then found to have a coronavirus infection weren't included in the analysis.)

    The COVID-19 patients were a little older, on average, than the flu patients (73.9 versus 70.2 years old), and they were less likely to be current or former smokers. They were also more likely to have received at least three doses of COVID-19 vaccine and less likely to have shunned the shots altogether.

    Yet after Al-Aly and his colleagues accounted for these differences and a host of other factors, they found that 5.7% of the COVID-19 patients died of their disease, compared with 4.2% of the influenza patients.

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    And yet another study supporting the factual claim..

    Circulating Spike Protein Detected in Post–COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Myocarditis


    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...AHA.122.061025

    “free spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Incorrect

    Never claimed it was, it’s the repeated injections (boosters) that lead to non stop production of the antigen
    They don't. If that were true, why would antibody levels wane over several months then increase following a subsequent inoculation?
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    They don't. If that were true, why would antibody levels wane over several months then increase following a subsequent inoculation?
    It is true, which is why another study I just posted confirms it.

    “spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause.”

    How much more clear does it have to get?


    Lie all you want, it doesn’t change the facts.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    It is true, which is why another study I just posted confirms it.

    “spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause.”

    How much more clear does it have to get?


    Lie all you want, it doesn’t change the facts.
    "The majority of individuals with postvaccine myocarditis were male (n=13 of 16; 81%), and symptom onset typically occurred within the first week after vaccination (median, 4 days; range, 1–19 days). "

    Which claim is this paper supposed to support?
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    "The majority of individuals with postvaccine myocarditis were male (n=13 of 16; 81%), and symptom onset typically occurred within the first week after vaccination (median, 4 days; range, 1–19 days). "

    Which claim is this paper supposed to support?
    Spike antigen found in the blood
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    Spike antigen found in the blood
    Oh. Well, yeah. That's why blood tests work.
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    Oh. Well, yeah. That's why blood tests work.
    Oh, well, so now we have vaccine-induced heart damage due to spike protein clogging and clotting their vascular system. Nice.
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    Oh, well, so now we have vaccine-induced heart damage due to spike protein clogging and clotting their vascular system. Nice.
    Where's that reported? The most recent study you posted is about myocarditis.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Where's that reported? The most recent study you posted is about myocarditis.


    spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause.”
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    spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause.”
    What does that have to do with clotting and clogging? This was a study of teens with myocarditis.
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    What does that have to do with clotting and clogging? This was a study of teens with myocarditis.
    Wat?
    Myocarditis weakens the heart so that the rest of the body doesn't get enough blood. Clots can form in the heart, leading to a stroke or heart attack.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Wat?
    Myocarditis weakens the heart so that the rest of the body doesn't get enough blood. Clots can form in the heart, leading to a stroke or heart attack.
    That is not clotted spike protein causing blockage.
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