Why do people act like Palestine is a real country (srs)

[OutdoorBrah]

Has it not always been an occupied territory of different geographic dimensions?

Wasn't a "Palestinian" identity created in the mid 20th century to counter zionism because the muslims couldn't get their sh*t together prior to that?

Why should I care about that part of the world anyway?

Respect srs tag

[jamalfudge]

Has it not always been an occupied territory of different geographic dimensions?

Wasn't a "Palestinian" identity created in the mid 20th century to counter zionism because the muslims couldn't get their sh*t together prior to that?

Why should I care about that part of the world anyway?

Respect srs tag

Imagine me talking to your neighbor and we both agree that I can have YOUR house, and in this analogy, your house is Palestine.

[WCline]

So because native Americans didn't have a "real country", that excused our genocidal conquest of their territory? It is theft of land. People were violently forced from their homes in what is Israel today. Like the above said, BRB I just sold your house bro, time to GTFO. The people I sold it to are victims of really horrible stuff so you better give up your house. No, I won't give up mine. You give up your house. Hey! Why are you pounding at the door and screaming at the owners and making a scene?!

[RICHSTRONG]

To the victor goes the spoils. Wonder if the various Native American tribes who fought each other non stop for land, resources, food cried to each other about 'hey...we were here firsssstttttt! wahhhhhh' while sluaghtering each other. Maybe we should've just sent mediators over to have tribes make peaceful engages and sent Gift baskets to Genghis Kahn so he would've stayed on his own acreage.

[WCline]

To the victor goes the spoils. Wonder if the various Native American tribes who fought each other non stop for land, resources, food cried to each other about 'hey...we were here firsssstttttt! wahhhhhh' while sluaghtering each other. Maybe we should've just sent mediators over to have tribes make peaceful engages and sent Gift baskets to Genghis Kahn so he would've stayed on his own acreage.

You should spend some time reading about the native American tribes. Particularly, check out how tolerant the Cherokee were. They even let whites live with them and allowed them to preach Christianity. You have no clue what an injustice was done to the Cherokee and other tribes. Read about John Ross and the SCOTUS cases surrounding him.

Injustice is injustice, bro.

[OutdoorBrah]

Imagine me talking to your neighbor and we both agree that I can have YOUR house, and in this analogy, your house is Palestine.

Refer back to initial questions. I'm not saying they don't have a legitimate claim to the land, and I'm not making this thread to argue about the creation of Israel. But the territory of Palestine was historically much larger than the present nation of Israel, (East Palestine became Trans Jordan which became Jordan), and the people inhabiting the region of Palestine referred to themselves as something other than Palestinian up until very recently.

[OutdoorBrah]

You should spend some time reading about the native American tribes. Particularly, check out how tolerant the Cherokee were. They even let whites live with them and allowed them to preach Christianity. You have no clue what an injustice was done to the Cherokee and other tribes. Read about John Ross and the SCOTUS cases surrounding him.

Injustice is injustice, bro.

Lmao the cherokee owned slaves. I bet the comanche were peaceful butterflies?

[WCline]

Lmao the cherokee owned slaves. I bet the comanche were peaceful butterflies?

Some did, and some didn't. The civil war affected them too. Strong dodge on the point being made. Are you jewish by chance?

[Islandboyo]

the fact is that jews didn't live there, but Palestinians did live there up until the jewish invasion from Europe displaced them. Any talking about what it was called or the semantics regarding "Palestine" is jewish talking points in order to confuse people.

Stupid cucks want to feel good about the Israeli expulsion of the inhabitants of that land, so they come up with all these obtuse theories about how it was never a "Palestine"

Either just admit that you are okay with the jews taking over the land for themselves or don't talk about it at all. No use in spreading jew lies.

[SultanofBling]

the fact is that jews didn't live there, but Palestinians did live there up until the jewish invasion from Europe displaced them. Any talking about what it was called or the semantics regarding "Palestine" is jewish talking points in order to confuse people.

Stupid cucks want to feel good about the Israeli expulsion of the inhabitants of that land, so they come up with all these obtuse theories about how it was never a "Palestine"

Either just admit that you are okay with the jews taking over the land for themselves or don't talk about it at all. No use in spreading jew lies.

What's wrong with Jews taking over the land if they won it in three wars.

[OutdoorBrah]

Some did, and some didn't. The civil war affected them too. Strong dodge on the point being made. Are you jewish by chance?

Your point was that Native Americans were peaceful and injustice was done to them. I have published on indigenous history. We can both find examples of more peaceful groups and violent groups, injustice was certainly done to all of them.

I do not wear the tiny hat.

[jamalfudge]

Refer back to initial questions. I'm not saying they don't have a legitimate claim to the land, and I'm not making this thread to argue about the creation of Israel. But the territory of Palestine was historically much larger than the present nation of Israel, (East Palestine became Trans Jordan which became Jordan), and the people inhabiting the region of Palestine referred to themselves as something other than Palestinian up until very recently.

Borders are redrawn all the time, and with those reasons, it still makes sense for Palestine to be Palestine rather than to be handed over to an organized group of thieves from modern-day Ukraine, there is no geographical purpose there.

[WCline]

Your point was that Native Americans were peaceful and injustice was done to them. I have published on indigenous history. We can both find examples of more peaceful groups and violent groups, injustice was certainly done to all of them.

I do not wear the tiny hat.

Glad you admit injustice was done. Well, as an American, I do not like seeing my money used for injustice. I am tired of seeing America sucked into bullshyt foreign wars that are not in our interests, but rather, Israel's. I don't like Arab kids being butchered ostensibly in my name. Because that kind of chit leads to 9/11. It's also just plain gross, and I want a clear conscience.

[OutdoorBrah]

the fact is that jews didn't live there, but Palestinians did live there up until the jewish invasion from Europe displaced them. Any talking about what it was called or the semantics regarding "Palestine" is jewish talking points in order to confuse people.

Stupid cucks want to feel good about the Israeli expulsion of the inhabitants of that land, so they come up with all these obtuse theories about how it was never a "Palestine"

Either just admit that you are okay with the jews taking over the land for themselves or don't talk about it at all. No use in spreading jew lies.

Learn to read pajeet, of course the region was called Palestine, but that historically is something very different than what the libtards on university campuses are calling Palestine.

I don't feel good about any of it, I've had lengthy conversations about this with an older neighbor who survived the Nakba, the whole situation is fukd. My problem is in the rhetoric around a Palestinian nation

[Duckliver]

Let’s just go with your premise

Let’s say it’s all Israel

Israel is now ethnically cleansing Muslims from their population

Does that make you feel better?

[Hutrapper]

To the victor goes the spoils. Wonder if the various Native American tribes who fought each other non stop for land, resources, food cried to each other about 'hey...we were here firsssstttttt! wahhhhhh' while sluaghtering each other. Maybe we should've just sent mediators over to have tribes make peaceful engages and sent Gift baskets to Genghis Kahn so he would've stayed on his own acreage.

This

Big difference between "stolen" and "conquered"

[WCline]

Learn to read pajeet, of course the region was called Palestine, but that historically is something very different than what the libtards on university campuses are calling Palestine.

I don't feel good about any of it, I've had lengthy conversations about this with an older neighbor who survived the Nakba, the whole situation is fukd. My problem is in the rhetoric around a Palestinian nation

Nation means something different from country. Palestine is certainly a nation.

[WCline]

Let’s just go with your premise

Let’s say it’s all Israel

Israel is now ethnically cleansing Muslims from their population

Does that make you feel better?

And this really is the best way to look at it, rather than as a "war". Israel de facto controls all that territory and is an apartheid state. Notably, Israel is also murdering Palestinian Christians.

[Omnivium]

Why do people act like israel is a real country?

[Drhunglow]

What's wrong with Jews taking over the land if they won it in three wars.

They didn't win the land from war. They defended it.

They won the land by terrorism against the Brits.

[OutdoorBrah]

Borders are redrawn all the time, and with those reasons, it still makes sense for Palestine to be Palestine rather than to be handed over to an organized group of thieves from modern-day Ukraine, there is no geographical purpose there.

Okay, this makes sense

[SultanofBling]

They didn't win the land from war. They defended it.

They won the land by terrorism against the Brits.

That's still a dubya -- so, isn't it theirs by conquest now

[poison]

the fact is that jews didn't live there, but Palestinians did live there up until the jewish invasion from Europe displaced them. Any talking about what it was called or the semantics regarding "Palestine" is jewish talking points in order to confuse people.

Stupid cucks want to feel good about the Israeli expulsion of the inhabitants of that land, so they come up with all these obtuse theories about how it was never a "Palestine"

Either just admit that you are okay with the jews taking over the land for themselves or don't talk about it at all. No use in spreading jew lies.

There were always Jews on that land, even when it was British, Turk, Mamluk, Roman, or otherwise. When did Palestinians rule it, again?

I'll wait.

[Drhunglow]

That's still a dubya -- so, isn't it theirs by conquest now

I guess so. Then nothing wrong with Muslims trying take it back using the same tactics then.

[John L]

That's still a dubya -- so, isn't it theirs by conquest now

[pengh]

How come Egypt is off the hook?

Look at this **** lmao. They put a border in the middle of Rafah (Gaza strip), and Egypt bulldozed the entire city on their side, fukin lol






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[Condo41]

I have observed that both jew and Muslim have counted my people as an enemy and so I do not care about this conflict but for sympathy for the innocents being harmed due to these ideologies. And so, I recuse myself from the whole thing.

I do not protest, I do not condemn protesters

[poison]

Free Palestine from the river to the sea

I finally found Palestine on a map: it's between Middle Earth and Narnia.

[Islandboyo]

What's wrong with Jews taking over the land if they won it in three wars.

Whats wrong is that only jews are allowed to go to war to win land, but other countries who do the same are evil.

Also the fact that they lie about it, and use our resources to “win” these wars are a problem.

It’s artificial if they only way they can stay on top is if the USA comes in to win their battles. This is causing much chaos in the area instead if it just being a one and done war where everything settles afterwards.

I have no problem with wars being fought for just causes. I do have a problem the dishonesty and being lied to constantly.

[poison]

did your rabbi draw you this map while fellating a baby?

Did your mom write this for you while blowing the mailman?