Do you believe in beta bux vs alpha fux?

[WiseOldApe]

That girls use certain men for sex and other men for emotional support and general narcissistic supply, and this all depends on how you 'present' your self to begin with and how well you hold this 'frame' subsequently - i.e., did you introduce yourself with a confident deep voice and a cheeky smile or did you start by increasing the pitch of your voice and smiling like a beta to look 'non-threatening'.

Did you just agree with the female or did you automatically disagree to establish dominance?

Do you make it obvious that you want sex from the get go, or do you pretend to be a saint like most 'nice guys'.

Etc.

Thoughts?

[OliverHeldens]

Lol, of course. In fact, I had a girl with NPD actually shift me from Alpha to Betabux in the middle of the relationship.

It was way more fun being the Alpha. Betabux is not a good place to be.

[WiseOldApe]

Lol, of course. In fact, I had a girl with NPD actually shift me from Alpha to Betabux in the middle of the relationship.

It was way more fun being the Alpha. Betabux is not a good place to be.

Yeah you broke frame - it can be hard for men out there.

Women only respect a hard bastard with no heart - typical slayers are dark triad.

They talk sh*t about said guys in front of other people, but they only give it up for bad kunts without much effort in the end.

They make the nice guy wait around - I don't think I am ever going to be able to let go of my ego and be that nice guy again in my life.

[thursdayParty1]

Don't pillow talk random sloots, thats an easy way to slide into beta territory

[FAPhaggot]

[58220]

as long as your face is chad tier women will come up with all kinds of copes to justify your behavioral quirks
quiet chad: mysterious
quiet non chad: creepy mass shooter

[ArtCore22]

as long as your face is chad tier women will come up with all kinds of copes to justify your behavioral quirks
quiet chad: mysterious
quiet non chad: creepy mass shooter

This is true. The better looking you are, the harder it is for women to not like you.

[azumi121]

Never emotionally connect with a woman. Fck and breed them only.

[Friendster]

as long as your face is chad tier women will come up with all kinds of copes to justify your behavioral quirks
quiet chad: mysterious
quiet non chad: creepy mass shooter

literally this lol. ive seen it firsthand

[uneducated]

I think if they don't get what they want from one guy, some women mix and match.

[uneducated]

as long as your face is chad tier women will come up with all kinds of copes to justify your behavioral quirks
quiet chad: mysterious
quiet non chad: creepy mass shooter

Except after the shooting, you become Chad to them, which is also hilarious.

The only way to win is to stop playing.

[BigTimeOperator]

In my experience with a lower class of girls, and this is going back to Jr. High, they will sex degenerates and arrogant abusive dudes right away and completely discrace themselves, but friend zone decent guys.

Higher class of girls don't usually act like this.

And by class, I mean overall class and intellect and confidence and self worth and self respect (some rich girls are hoe bags.)

Daddy issues are legit, as well.

[Onlinedatingcel]

Is the ocean salty? Do fish swim?

[Brommando]

Nope, most women are aware that men have feeling brah.

[ithappenss]

In my experience with a lower class of girls, and this is going back to Jr. High, they will sex degenerates and arrogant abusive dudes right away and completely discrace themselves, but friend zone decent guys.

Higher class of girls don't usually act like this.

And by class, I mean overall class and intellect and confidence and self worth and self respect (some rich girls are hoe bags.)

Daddy issues are legit, as well.

what is considered a "decent guy" to you?

majority of the time they have a bunch of feminine traits that girls say they want but in reality its a turn off. stop listening to girls for advice

[WiseOldApe]

"Some women get heated up over the absolute dregs and
can't feel any passion unless they see slaves or bare-legged messengers.
The arena sets some of them on heat, or a mule-driver covered with
dust, or actors displayed on the stage. My mistress is one of this type.
She jumps across the first fourteen seats from the orchestra and looks
for something to love among the lowest of the low"

from The Satyricon

[alltrapbrah]

Thoughts?

I think it holds very true for a sub-set of women.

[WiseOldApe]

I think it holds very true for a sub-set of women.

yeah i guess it's a smart idea to just find a nice girl and settle down for both spiritual and material reasons

[brosapiens]

I think it's all about behaving like a man. "be yourself" is true but it also means be yourself, a man, and not whatever feminized persona the society created in you.

[swordplay76]

yea, some women do this, I think. maybe even most.

But I took the blackpill, it's all about looks and voice is secondary to that.

[WiseOldApe]

I think it's all about behaving like a man. "be yourself" is true but it also means be yourself, a man, and not whatever feminized persona the society created in you.

Yeah you always gotta be alpha

[WiseOldApe]

yea, some women do this, I think. maybe even most.

But I took the blackpill, it's all about looks and voice is secondary to that.

I've noticed the voice thing quite a bit actually - when I was younger I'd speak in a higher pitch to appease people and be friendly, whilst in the last period of time I've been practising talking in a deep voice no matter what.

You should see how other men react when you talk to them in a deep voice to assert dominance - I've litirally had dudes say something to me, I respond in a deep voice, and they submit/look down.

Same as keeping my chest out and shoulders straight with good posture or having aa serious look on my face no matter who it is - never smiling and submitting like a little b*tch.

Only other alphas don't buckle and respond in a deep voice and maintain masculine frame, both psychological and physical.

People will make fun of this behaviour as 'overcompensating' but if that's the case, why do people react so strongly to indicators of masculinity?

There's even studies out there that if you maintain strong (alpha) posture, predators are less likely to target you, since people only dare attack those they perceive as 'weak'.

[brosapiens]

Yeah you always gotta be alpha

If you're trying to be anything you're playing a role and not being the actual you. You gotta find yourself in you. You said in another thread that you were into new age for a while. It's similar to the "remember who you are" thing. All this stuff is in you and whether you see it from a physical or metaphysical point of view, your body/mind/spirit is in charge and can make you feel and act in any way you can think of and are in control of mental chit chat, intuition, hormones etc... whatever way you want to look at it.
So it's only your mental chit-chatting "you" that's not playing along.

[WiseOldApe]

If you're trying to be anything you're playing a role and not being the actual you. You gotta find yourself in you. You said in another thread that you were into new age for a while. It's similar to the "remember who you are" thing. All this stuff is in you and whether you see it from a physical or metaphysical point of view, your body/mind/spirit is in charge and can make you feel and act in any way you can think of and are in control of mental chit chat, intuition, hormones etc... whatever way you want to look at it.
So it's only your mental chit-chatting "you" that's not playing along.

I'm Christian - and tbh I don't care about that 'be yourself' nonsense.

I'm just saying that being alpha (masculine) is something that I strive towards and every man should strive towards being masculine.

No one respects a feminine and submissive man - people might like you, heck, most people will even be your friend if they think you're weaker than them so they feel confident around you, but they will never respect you and fear going against you, because in one way or another you've shown a weakness that they'll exploit down the line because once again, they don't fear you.

[brosapiens]

I'm Christian - and tbh I don't care about that 'be yourself' nonsense.

I'm just saying that being alpha (masculine) is something that I strive towards and every man should strive towards being masculine.

No one respects a feminine and submissive man - people might like you, heck, most people will even be your friend if they think you're weaker than them so they feel confident around you, but they will never respect you and fear going against you, because in one way or another you've shown a weakness that they'll exploit down the line because once again, they don't fear you.

"be yourself" doesn't mean being an individualist, materialist or "do as thou wilt" pos. So the new age stuff was meant only as an analogy. It only means to be the actual you and not some alter ego you created to hide your insecurities. A facade that you believe in. What you do when you try to appear alpha in front of a girl for example. What you would do by default should be good and appreciated. So in a way you gotta give it all up, accept that you're a weak nobody, accept all your flaws and work your way from there while never trying to act a role.

[WiseOldApe]

"be yourself" doesn't mean being an individualist, materialist or "do as thou wilt" pos. So the new age stuff was meant only as an analogy. It only means to be the actual you and not some alter ego you created to hide your insecurities. A facade that you believe in. What you do when you try to appear alpha in front of a girl for example. What you would do by default should be good and appreciated. So in a way you gotta give it all up, accept that you're a weak nobody, accept all your flaws and work your way from there while never trying to act a role.

Man i don't really understand what you're saying - all I want is to be seen as a monster and somebody that's not to be messed with.

In my opinion people are always scanning for weaknesses, etc to use to their own aadvantage - when you hold frame it sends the signals to other men that you're not to be messed with.

In my experience there's a lot of dark people out there who will disrespect you as a 'joke' to begin with you and go from there until you're they're b*tch - by remaining dominant and unreactive to people the evil man projects his own shadow onto you and flees out of terror, and those that are OK won't give two fcks or might even respect you.

[brosapiens]

Maan i don't really understand what you're saying - all I want is to be seen as a monster and somebody that's not to be messed with.

I have a challenge for you. Do you have the courage to scream at the top of your lungs in your own house? By yourself? If you want to cheat you can scream into a pillow but it has to be full blast.
What's a monster without a voice?

[WiseOldApe]

I have a challenge for you. Do you have the courage to scream at the top of your lungs in your own house? By yourself? If you want to cheat you can scream into a pillow but it has to be full blast.
What's a monster without a voice?

Dude I don't have a problem being silly - I'm just saying that I want people to think twice

[brosapiens]

Dude I don't have a problem being silly - I'm just saying that I want people to think twice

Only initiated people are allowed to live that sort of life you hope for. Sorry!

[WiseOldApe]

Only initiated people are allowed to live that sort of life you hope for. Sorry!

What does that mean, i.e, 'initiated people'.