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    Have y’all ever read about the Sinclair method? It involves naltrexone and the process of pharmacological extinction.

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    Originally Posted by ThatsRightBitch View Post
    Have y’all ever read about the Sinclair method? It involves naltrexone and the process of pharmacological extinction.

    https://www.sinclairmethod.org/what-...lair-method-2/
    I took Naltrexone for a few months and it didn't really help for me. I know that does help some people though.
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    Originally Posted by Joeyw88 View Post
    I took Naltrexone for a few months and it didn't really help for me. I know that does help some people though.
    The sinclair method utilizes naltrexone in a different way. Instead of just popping it every day, you’re supposed to take it an hour before you decide to drink, and due to this when you are drinking the endorphin receptors in your brain are “blocked off” thus breaking the primal brain association of alcohol = pleasure. I studied it for a bit, seems to have a higher rate of success than normal.
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    Originally Posted by ThatsRightBitch View Post
    The sinclair method utilizes naltrexone in a different way. Instead of just popping it every day, you’re supposed to take it an hour before you decide to drink, and due to this when you are drinking the endorphin receptors in your brain are “blocked off” thus breaking the primal brain association of alcohol = pleasure. I studied it for a bit, seems to have a higher rate of success than normal.

    I’ve tried both ways and it didn’t help either way. I am familiar with how it works, but it just didn’t have much of an effect on me. I was just too driven to drink, whether it was pleasurable or not.
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    Hey what's up everyone! How is your recovery and life going? Today has been a really spectacular day! Super warm and sunny today, I biked about 11 miles to and from a buddy's apartment. I went over there to start working on our joint Youtube channel, which I am looking forward to. We plan on talking about the same things (for the most part) that I do on my channel such as addiction, mental health, and recovery. Our first video went well and I look forward to doing more.

    I had a great shower soon after getting home from biking. The cold rinse at the end got me ****ing high for like 30-60 seconds lol. It is nice to feel some point and purpose of life as well as to receive pleasure from simple things like a cold shower after being all sweaty. Not having my brain accustomed to the high from substances has been very freeing.
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    hey boys just an update: i'm off alcohol again. well i didn't think i was drinking very much and went cold turkey and it gave me insomnia for three days and i tried to kill myself. been in and out of hospitals for mental help but things are finally coming together for me again
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    Originally Posted by resoog View Post
    hey boys just an update: i'm off alcohol again. well i didn't think i was drinking very much and went cold turkey and it gave me insomnia for three days and i tried to kill myself. been in and out of hospitals for mental help but things are finally coming together for me again
    Hey, thanks for the update!! How many days has it been since you last drank? Three days? Glad to hear you're doing better!
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    Originally Posted by Joeyw88 View Post
    Hey, thanks for the update!! How many days has it been since you last drank? Three days? Glad to hear you're doing better!
    about three weeks thanks
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    Originally Posted by resoog View Post
    about three weeks thanks
    Hell yeah, good work! Gjdm
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    Originally Posted by Joeyw88 View Post
    Hell yeah, good work! Gjdm
    i figure since i didn't start drinking until i was 18 i've done a good 18 years of sobriety already and with that mindset it could be a picnic. i was very happy during those years
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    Originally Posted by resoog View Post
    i figure since i didn't start drinking until i was 18 i've done a good 18 years of sobriety already and with that mindset it could be a picnic. i was very happy during those years
    That's actually a great way of looking at it. I'm a very nostalgic person, so I look back on my younger years as the very best. I remember spending time with friends, family, always staying active, excited about things, etc. before alcohol even entered my mind. Even when I did start drinking like a typical HS/college kid, it wasn't a major part of my life whatsoever... it was so far down my list of enjoyable things. I'd like to get back to that mindset and focus on those other things that matter so much more.
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    Originally Posted by xxAchillesxx View Post
    That's actually a great way of looking at it. I'm a very nostalgic person, so I look back on my younger years as the very best. I remember spending time with friends, family, always staying active, excited about things, etc. before alcohol even entered my mind. Even when I did start drinking like a typical HS/college kid, it wasn't a major part of my life whatsoever... it was so far down my list of enjoyable things. I'd like to get back to that mindset and focus on those other things that matter so much more.
    I do the same sometimes. I remember it being spring my sophomore year in HS. I remember being outside and having this feeling of..... je n'est sais que..... like a magical feeling. Unfortunately, that was lost with abusing so much ****. However, I am starting to get the ability to experience a lot of pleasure from the small things, like a good meal or a nice cold shower.
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    What's going on my recovery brothers and sisters? Hopefully everyone's week is going well. Im working out in 88 degree sun and sweating like a mofo lol.
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    What's going on my recovery brothers and sisters? Hopefully everyone's week is going well. Im working out in 88 degree sun and sweating like a mofo lol.
    starting intensive outpatient therapy pretty soon, it's an eight week program four times per week for three hours each session and group therapy
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    starting intensive outpatient therapy pretty soon, it's an eight week program four times per week for three hours each session and group therapy
    Hell yeah, I really liked IOP. Pretty helpful to learn coping skills and have a safe environment to process your ****.
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    What's going on my wonderful recovery brethren? How is everyone's recovery going? Do you have any victories to celebrate with us or any challenges that you want to share?

    I have been doing well and staying strong in my recovery. Did more recovery coach classes last weekend and I'm staying active as best as I can. There were a few relapses by other housemates last week and one of them was kicked out.
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    Good stuff man

    Was buying some water and red bull with my family Waiting outside. Kept eyeing the liquor bottles and thoughts of sneaking out early in the morning and drinking passed through my head. Had the same thoughts walking past the bar when I was taking my kids to the kids pool.

    5 years sober atm. Vacations trigger me I guess. Wasn’t any serious thoughts and I shut them down right away because I know where it leads. But idk I’m pretty sure I will always have a little devil voice that whispers in my ear every now and then.
    Weather triggers me. Like a sunny day or a fall moment reminds me of a party I was at or something and I want to feel that way. I can drink and I don’t change but lately I’m getting bad hangovers. I wa so sick yesterday that I could have ended it all with no regrets. I messed up because I had a 3 day weekend and I had leftover beers in the fridge they someone left over and I bought more and drank them all. Man I felt bad yesterday. I don’t know if it’s from working in the heat or if I was sick on top of it but I feel horrible. Wtf!!
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    Originally Posted by Immichaelski View Post
    Weather triggers me. Like a sunny day or a fall moment reminds me of a party I was at or something and I want to feel that way. I can drink and I don’t change but lately I’m getting bad hangovers. I wa so sick yesterday that I could have ended it all with no regrets. I messed up because I had a 3 day weekend and I had leftover beers in the fridge they someone left over and I bought more and drank them all. Man I felt bad yesterday. I don’t know if it’s from working in the heat or if I was sick on top of it but I feel horrible. Wtf!!
    Weather definitely is a big trigger for me too although everything is kind of a trigger lol. Are you sick as in just hungover or also dealing with an illness? I hope you are able to start feeling better soon!
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    Just wanted to pop in and say that I'm proud of everyone in this thread, and happy that something like this exists on Misc. I haven't lurked or posted in a number of years, and recently I made the commitment to bettering my physical and mental health again after a number of dark, depressing years.

    I am currently 19 days sober from alcohol and other toxins, and have only taken 2 rest days from working out after not working out for over 2 years. I was drinking 8-10 beers almost daily, and smoking daily as well.

    Certain changes and opportunities in my life have opened me up to making a change, and even though my body is sore and stiff and confused, my brain, energy, and overall mood have improved significantly.

    I don't know if I'll stay 100% sober forever, but as I said before, I am proud of everyone here who has made a change for the positive in their lives, and encourage each and every one of you to keep going!

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    Originally Posted by Benihanas View Post
    Just wanted to pop in and say that I'm proud of everyone in this thread, and happy that something like this exists on Misc. I haven't lurked or posted in a number of years, and recently I made the commitment to bettering my physical and mental health again after a number of dark, depressing years.

    I am currently 19 days sober from alcohol and other toxins, and have only taken 2 rest days from working out after not working out for over 2 years. I was drinking 8-10 beers almost daily, and smoking daily as well.

    Certain changes and opportunities in my life have opened me up to making a change, and even though my body is sore and stiff and confused, my brain, energy, and overall mood have improved significantly.

    I don't know if I'll stay 100% sober forever, but as I said before, I am proud of everyone here who has made a change for the positive in their lives, and encourage each and every one of you to keep going!

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    Congrats on 19 days! Thank you and I agree, I am proud of everyone on here as well. Its not an easy task, at least not easy for me lol. And definitely a complete lifestyle change, not just not drinking and using. Glad to hear you're doing well and getting healthier!


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    I did PHP for 6 weeks and it helped me a lot. The guy that ran it was a good guy a good therapist. I had been to psychiatrists and therapists and psychologists before and they were all terrible. I hate when people fake empathy. After I did PHP though I had something happen with my borderline mother where I tried to apply the setting boundaries thing and she cried to my dad and he came over to my house broke in and was screaming at me scared the **** out of me for a while idk maybe an hour and a half. After he left I went and got booze and beer and drank was gonna drive to a bridge and jump off since I didnt have a gun. Called my dad on the phone to yell at him, mom called the cops. Cops came to my house and just told me to go to sleep. Mom didn't like that so she went to a judge and got an ex parte order for me to be arrested by cops and sent to a mental hospital. 3 days after that the cops came to my house and took me to a mental hospital. It was terrible, was there for a week then I requested a writ of habeas corpus from the court so the mental hospital got me a taxi and sent me home. Havent talked to anybody for a long time, I dont have any friends or anyone now. I had a friend but havent seen or talked to him since 4th of july 2017. My other friend died by drowning. I never leave my house anymore and am probably going a bit weird, I dont think I have gone insane like people online say. I have had some weird things happening lately making me crave alcohol and I drank a few times since may this year. My ex gf that I have not seen or spoken to in over 11 years is saying I have been driving around 2 hours away to follow her around in my truck and saying I am threatening her. The cops are acting like insane psychopaths. I tried venting online and people say I am schizophrenic, even when I show the security camera footage of the cops banging on my windows and pictures of the letter from a lawyer accusing me of this insane ****. Idk what to do life really has not gone well lately
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    Originally Posted by defiantstone View Post
    I did PHP for 6 weeks and it helped me a lot. The guy that ran it was a good guy a good therapist. I had been to psychiatrists and therapists and psychologists before and they were all terrible. I hate when people fake empathy. After I did PHP though I had something happen with my borderline mother where I tried to apply the setting boundaries thing and she cried to my dad and he came over to my house broke in and was screaming at me scared the **** out of me for a while idk maybe an hour and a half. After he left I went and got booze and beer and drank was gonna drive to a bridge and jump off since I didnt have a gun. Called my dad on the phone to yell at him, mom called the cops. Cops came to my house and just told me to go to sleep. Mom didn't like that so she went to a judge and got an ex parte order for me to be arrested by cops and sent to a mental hospital. 3 days after that the cops came to my house and took me to a mental hospital. It was terrible, was there for a week then I requested a writ of habeas corpus from the court so the mental hospital got me a taxi and sent me home. Havent talked to anybody for a long time, I dont have any friends or anyone now. I had a friend but havent seen or talked to him since 4th of july 2017. My other friend died by drowning. I never leave my house anymore and am probably going a bit weird, I dont think I have gone insane like people online say. I have had some weird things happening lately making me crave alcohol and I drank a few times since may this year. My ex gf that I have not seen or spoken to in over 11 years is saying I have been driving around 2 hours away to follow her around in my truck and saying I am threatening her. The cops are acting like insane psychopaths. I tried venting online and people say I am schizophrenic, even when I show the security camera footage of the cops banging on my windows and pictures of the letter from a lawyer accusing me of this insane ****. Idk what to do life really has not gone well lately
    I’m glad PHP was helpful! Definitely a lot of time involved with that, but sometimes it’s needed. I’m sorry to hear that you are in the situation, sounds like a lot on your plate.


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    Sober 6 days now, no booze since the night of Aug 31st.

    I gave up alcohol for 5 months last year while losing weight for and after a hernia repair operation back in January. Lost 55 lbs (put on a lot during covid), start enjoying alcohol again, then drinking more than I'd want to. Not to where I'd get sick, but to where I'd say in the morning, "I'm not drinking tonight..." but then be buying beer on the way home from work. Then wanting to finish everything I bought so there wasn't any for the next day so I could not drink, but then I'd just buy more.

    Typing this out so I can see it. I want to stop drinking to reign in the last 20 lbs that I rebound when I went off diet and drinking this Spring, to get blood pressure back down, mental clarity for new job interviews, and to possibly aid in our trying for a 2nd baby (we had a miscarriage and a D&C procedure in the Fall and are trying again).

    My goal is Sober September and Sober October, use 60 days to reset desires, maybe go longer. Currently in the phase where every hobby I think "ya know, this would be better with a beer..." mainly because of boredom.

    I keep replaying these in my head. John Goodman saying you're only sober 1 day at a time. Choose to be sober this day. David Harbour making excuses about issues in his life and a friend repeatedly asking, "why don't you get sober?" Zakk Wylde quitting his excessive drinking due to blood clots, getting on blood thinners, life expectancy, and holding to it "like a f*ckin' man."


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    Originally Posted by lmnopotts View Post
    Sober 6 days now, no booze since the night of Aug 31st.

    I gave up alcohol for 5 months last year while losing weight for and after a hernia repair operation back in January. Lost 55 lbs (put on a lot during covid), start enjoying alcohol again, then drinking more than I'd want to. Not to where I'd get sick, but to where I'd say in the morning, "I'm not drinking tonight..." but then be buying beer on the way home from work. Then wanting to finish everything I bought so there wasn't any for the next day so I could not drink, but then I'd just buy more.

    Typing this out so I can see it. I want to stop drinking to reign in the last 20 lbs that I rebound when I went off diet and drinking this Spring, to get blood pressure back down, mental clarity for new job interviews, and to possibly aid in our trying for a 2nd baby (we had a miscarriage and a D&C procedure in the Fall and are trying again).

    My goal is Sober September and Sober October, use 60 days to reset desires, maybe go longer. Currently in the phase where every hobby I think "ya know, this would be better with a beer..." mainly because of boredom.

    I keep replaying these in my head. John Goodman saying you're only sober 1 day at a time. Choose to be sober this day. David Harbour making excuses about issues in his life and a friend repeatedly asking, "why don't you get sober?" Zakk Wylde quitting his excessive drinking due to blood clots, getting on blood thinners, life expectancy, and holding to it "like a f*ckin' man."

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    Congrats on the six days clean!! Sounds like you have a good plan and you're sticking to it! Unfortunately for me, there will never be a time where I can go back to drinking/using and using in moderation. No matter what I tell myself, that's never going to happen longterm. Sure, I can go back to drinking or using and do well for maybe a few weeks, but then it would be all downhill from there lol.

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    10 months today!
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    Went over a year recently without a sip, was feeling great, amazing mood all the time, lots of spiritual progress. I decided I could drink like a normal person, couple drinks here and there, and it's true, there's no risk for me personally going back to getting drunk all the time. I now have no problem having a couple drinks every once in a while, which felt nice after golf or with friends or whatever.

    However, my mood has not been as good, takes days to recover mentally from even 1-2 beers, and it's simply not worth it on those grounds.

    After all of my spiritual progress it has become clearer than anything else that even 1-2 drinks lowers my vibration noticeably and hinders further spiritual growth, so I simply won't be drinking at all, not even a beer here or there.

    Sending lots of love to all of you struggling not to drink. It's a vile poison and it takes your life away from you. You gain absolutely nothing from drinking, even though it may feel good in the moment. But you pay the price much more than any perceived benefit in the moment. It's a tricky one, and no coincidence that it's pushed on the population so hard. They want us dependent, miserable, stupid, and with low consciousness. What we can do is refuse to dwell in that low level of life and raise ourselves and those around us up.

    If it hasn't been that long since you quit, or if it has and you still crave the drink, just remember that it literally steals your life away from you and gives you nothing in return. The level of happiness you can achieve as a sober person is so, so much higher than what you can achieve as a drinker. Just takes a bit of work and proper thinking.
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    Originally Posted by John$Galt View Post
    Went over a year recently without a sip, was feeling great, amazing mood all the time, lots of spiritual progress. I decided I could drink like a normal person, couple drinks here and there, and it's true, there's no risk for me personally going back to getting drunk all the time. I now have no problem having a couple drinks every once in a while, which felt nice after golf or with friends or whatever.

    However, my mood has not been as good, takes days to recover mentally from even 1-2 beers, and it's simply not worth it on those grounds.

    After all of my spiritual progress it has become clearer than anything else that even 1-2 drinks lowers my vibration noticeably and hinders further spiritual growth, so I simply won't be drinking at all, not even a beer here or there.

    Sending lots of love to all of you struggling not to drink. It's a vile poison and it takes your life away from you. You gain absolutely nothing from drinking, even though it may feel good in the moment. But you pay the price much more than any perceived benefit in the moment. It's a tricky one, and no coincidence that it's pushed on the population so hard. They want us dependent, miserable, stupid, and with low consciousness. What we can do is refuse to dwell in that low level of life and raise ourselves and those around us up.

    If it hasn't been that long since you quit, or if it has and you still crave the drink, just remember that it literally steals your life away from you and gives you nothing in return. The level of happiness you can achieve as a sober person is so, so much higher than what you can achieve as a drinker. Just takes a bit of work and proper thinking.
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