Science: Sugar is not unhealthy and does not cause weight gain

[Procta]

Lmao strong source.

Imagine feeling the need to explain to people that convenience store food (like Dave the beat cop tradie eats) lacks nutrition... or that any diet is not healthy long term because... wait for it... you're in a calorie deficit. I mean why didn't they tell us that you'll eventually starve to death no matter what nutrients you're eating?

Derp.

Sup Ethan

https://thepostmillennial.com/obese-...campaign=64470

[AncientYouth]

i think we shoud encourage fatties to eat more and move less..........and we can depopulate quicker

[Bosko]

Cinnamon Toast Crunch pushes that manlet into the mud and takes his gold.

You ain't lived until you have had this

[nosirrahx]

Closing gyms and encouraging people to stay indoors will go down as a serious misstep when we look back on COVID-19.

Gyms are a purely voluntary activity. If people were afraid they could ....... not go and if masks actually work, wear a mask if they so wish.

Some of the resistance to spreading the message about the correlation between D3 sufficiency and COVID-19 outcome is to avoid the public asking "Why did you encourage a lifestyle that increases D3 deficiency?".

INB4 inevitable binary thinking smooth brained comments:

You can get vaccinated AND get outdoor cardio and take a D3 supplement. If health was actually the primary driver of COVID-19 policy then this is exactly what the MSM would be promoting.

[Cleveland33]

Depends on a lot of factors but if you are at a stable healthy weight and lift and do frequent cardio then eating red meat, butter and dairy isn't going to hurt you. Same goes for eggs.

Quantity is also a factor here. Are talking steak once or twice a day or once or twice a week?

If you are a mess and gaining weight then a lot of normal foods are not that healthy but they are not the cause, that is the effect of being very unhealthy.

People are proving that red meat is not the cardiac nightmare it has been made out to be with the keto and carnivore diets.

I don't follow the dairy stuff though

[Cleveland33]

I count grams of protein and go super low carb (excluding vegetables) and lost well over 100 lbs. I have no idea what my total calories are. They are very low at times, but how low, no friggin idea.

it's kinda funny you post that considering the first line in your sig is "Eat in a deficit to lose weight."

[Procta]

You ain't lived until you have had this

How many did Santa mow down

[nosirrahx]

it's kinda funny you post that considering the first line in your sig is "Eat in a deficit to lose weight."

That is an ancient sig, I might change it, totally forgot that it is even there.

[nosirrahx]

People are proving that red meat is not the cardiac nightmare it has been made out to be with the keto and carnivore diets.

I don't follow the dairy stuff though

Neither are eggs. Turns out that a lot of ".... unhealthy food ....." is only unhealthy in circumstances where the individual is living a very unhealthy lifestyle.

If you are not in a calorie surplus, are not overweight and do consistent cardio, you can eat just about anything you want.

[AncientYouth]

people complicate the most simple things, eat a balanced diet, exercise regularly do not get over weight and manage any deficiences with supplementation such as Vit D etc

[sooby]

all these "anti-sugar" or "anti-fat", "anti-dairy" extremists are all phucking retarded. you don't need to go all or nothing to be healthy live a long life. in fact, it's probably better for your sanity and stress levels to eat the things you enjoy but eat some of the nutritionally deficient stuff in moderation. not one single thing is responsible for obesity it's a multitude of things. Not to mention people are sitting on their asses and watching netflix more than ever.

Here is an example:

Sugar consumption has actually gone DOWN since the 2000s since people like Gary Taubes started their whole anti-sugar fear-mongering. Why is it then obesity is still going up despite less sugar consumption? That isn't to say sugar isn't a contributor but it is only a small piece of the puzzle.



If people want to learn more about nutrition, guys like Alan Aragon and Stephan Guyenet are go to guys.

[Cleveland33]

all these "anti-sugar" or "anti-fat", "anti-dairy" extremists are all phucking retarded. you don't need to go all or nothing to be healthy live a long life. in fact, it's probably better for your sanity and stress levels to eat the things you enjoy but eat some of the nutritionally deficient stuff in moderation. not one single thing is responsible for obesity it's a multitude of things.

Here is an example:

Sugar consumption has actually gone DOWN since the 2000s since people like Gary Taubes started their whole anti-sugar fear-mongering. Why is it then obesity is still going up despite less sugar consumption? That isn't to say sugar isn't a contributor but it is only a small piece of the puzzle.



If people want to learn more about nutrition, guys like Alan Aragon and Stephan Guyenet are go to guys.

I gotta believe our society's sedentary lifestyle is worse for us than the food choices but probably not by much

[sooby]

I gotta believe our society's sedentary lifestyle is worse for us than the food choices but probably not by much

Surely if we went from peak 110 lbs of sugar per year to around 90 lbs, if sugar was the boogeyman as everybody claimed, we perhaps would have seen at the very least a slowdown in the climbing obesity rates. an 18% or so decrease is alot but yet has done nothing.

I agree though, I actually think sedentary lifestyles are a much bigger deal when it comes to obesity. I think in the 80s and 90s anorexia nervosa was being talked about as a serious issue and got a lot of media attention, where somebody has a distorted view of their own body. But we've kinda gone to the extreme with that were now people should accept and be proud to be 40% body fat and obese sacks of chit.

[AncientYouth]

in the USA and increasingly the UK , being generally overweight is now seen as normal and obesity is so common to not be much of a thing .................Obesity is actually contagious by association

[NYPat]

Surely if we went from peak 110 lbs of sugar per year to around 90 lbs, if sugar was the boogeyman as everybody claimed, we perhaps would have seen at the very least a slowdown in the climbing obesity rates. an 18% or so decrease is alot but yet has done nothing.

I agree though, I actually think sedentary lifestyles are a much bigger deal when it comes to obesity. I think in the 80s and 90s anorexia nervosa was being talked about as a serious issue and got a lot of media attention, where somebody has a distorted view of their own body. But we've kinda gone to the extreme with that were now people should accept and be proud to be 40% body fat and obese sacks of chit.

People eat out too much and consume WAY too many calories.

[Cleveland33]

Surely if we went from peak 110 lbs of sugar per year to around 90 lbs, if sugar was the boogeyman as everybody claimed, we perhaps would have seen at the very least a slowdown in the climbing obesity rates. an 18% or so decrease is alot but yet has done nothing.

I agree though, I actually think sedentary lifestyles are a much bigger deal when it comes to obesity. I think in the 80s and 90s anorexia nervosa was being talked about as a serious issue and got a lot of media attention, where somebody has a distorted view of their own body. But we've kinda gone to the extreme with that were now people should accept and be proud to be 40% body fat and obese sacks of chit.

This meme always really hit me - and the worst part is it takes a lot of hard work to look like DLB (even with steroids) but it legit takes effort to get as bad as the one on the right - like you don't get busy or distracted for a month or two at the holidays and look like that. That is several years of letting yourself go

[nosirrahx]

This meme always really hit me - and the worst part is it takes a lot of hard work to look like DLB (even with steroids) but it legit takes effort to get as bad as the one on the right - like you don't get busy or distracted for a month or two at the holidays and look like that. That is several years of letting yourself go

We went from celebrating mediocrity to celebrating failure. That's fine, makes things easer for the people that actually try.

[Antoine99]

Remember, Honey Nut Cheerios can help lower cholesterol, it's good for you

[Cleveland33]

Remember, Honey Nut Cheerios can help lower cholesterol, it's good for you

my immediate thought was that they might be ok overall but 12g of added sugar in a cup?

man


I do love me some regular Cheerios - they are my carb of choice during competitions (eating them dry of course)

[Dave22reborn]

Lmao strong source.

Imagine feeling the need to explain to people that convenience store food (like Dave the beat cop tradie eats) lacks nutrition... or that any diet is not healthy long term because... wait for it... you're in a calorie deficit. I mean why didn't they tell us that you'll eventually starve to death no matter what nutrients you're eating?

Derp.

You're the one promoting the Twinkie Diet, no wonder your son is in such bad shape, having you as a mother.

Just another future burden on society....

[Dave22reborn]

people complicate the most simple things, eat a balanced diet, exercise regularly do not get over weight and manage any deficiences with supplementation such as Vit D etc

Exactly, but it's easier for someone to follow a fad diet.

[Dave22reborn]

I gotta believe our society's sedentary lifestyle is worse for us than the food choices but probably not by much

Why have your kid run around, when you can put a tablet in their lap?

[rampagefc77]

People are proving that red meat is not the cardiac nightmare it has been made out to be with the keto and carnivore diets.

I don't follow the dairy stuff though

Depends on what your goals are.

The diet that has been linked to the greatest longevity and the lowest incidence of chronic illness (including diabetes, cv disease and cancer) is a primarily plant based diet rich in nuts, seeds, legumes, vegetables. Some fish is ok. Intermittent fasting or doing a fast mimicking diet x 5 days every 6 months is also beneficial.

If your goals are athletic performance, muscle mass, etc then a higher protein diet with highly bioavailable amino acid sources from animals is better— though this causes increases in igf-1 and the mtor gene pathway which are linked to cancer and cv disease risk.

[NYPat]

You're the one promoting the Twinkie Diet, no wonder your son is in such bad shape, having you as a mother.

Just another future burden on society....

I have four sons.. and a wife. Something you wouldn't know anything about. Sit down beat cop.

[Cleveland33]

Depends on what your goals are.

The diet that has been linked to the greatest longevity and the lowest incidence of chronic illness (including diabetes, cv disease and cancer) is a primarily plant based diet rich in nuts, seeds, legumes, vegetables. Some fish is ok. Intermittent fasting or doing a fast mimicking diet x 5 days every 6 months is also beneficial.

If your goals are athletic performance, muscle mass, etc then a higher protein diet with highly bioavailable amino acid sources from animals is better— though this causes increases in igf-1 and the mtor gene pathway which are linked to cancer and cv disease risk.

I wasn't speaking of the optimal choices but people have gone on keto and now carnivore and showing that they improve their cholesterol, BP, BS, etc, a standard blood panel.

Now granted - in terms of weight loss, the vast majority of success comes from calorie restriction no matter what you are eating and the truth is, when most people try a new diet that focuses on what you eat, they very often restrict calories even if they are not aware out of the enthusiasm of starting. They also often increase their movement so the blood work improvements could be from these rather than the carnivore diet. However, to me it is more that people are increasing red meat and seeing improvement on the panels.

[jalundah]

Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08...sor/index.html

I really don't understand why this is still so difficult to comprehend. This isn't aimed at you but just CICO advocates in general.

Yes, to lose weight it really is calories in vs. calories out. However, if you take that at face value, you're completely ignoring the effect that the quality of calories in has on the entire equation.

Yes you can lose weight eating twinkies and doritos if you stay under whatever your body's maintenance point is. That's obvious. But those aren't satiating foods and I'd be willing to bet that this professor's ghrelin levels are through the roof. That's why low fat, and specifically low calorie low fat diets are so damn difficult to adhere to long term as willpower will only get you so far fighting against your own biology. He was probably starving, cold, and miserable at the end of his experiment.

[ghostfacedup]

Key note; dairy is okay in very minor moderation and at proper times, most misuse it.

Dairy is fine if it is raw and grass fed. I'm a sucker for Fairlife chocolate milk though, it's like crack.

[ghostfacedup]

Depends on what your goals are.

The diet that has been linked to the greatest longevity and the lowest incidence of chronic illness (including diabetes, cv disease and cancer) is a primarily plant based diet rich in nuts, seeds, legumes, vegetables. Some fish is ok. Intermittent fasting or doing a fast mimicking diet x 5 days every 6 months is also beneficial.

If your goals are athletic performance, muscle mass, etc then a higher protein diet with highly bioavailable amino acid sources from animals is better— though this causes increases in igf-1 and the mtor gene pathway which are linked to cancer and cv disease risk.

plant based diets are actually a scam. They are low in micronutrients. Vegetables are mostly just water and fiber.

[Dave22reborn]

I have four sons.. and a wife. Something you wouldn't know anything about. Sit down beat cop.

Sure you do.....

And if you did, who brags about their wife ****ting out those many kids? She must look terrible. Stomach probably looks like a road map, droopy tits, fat, etc.

[NYPat]

Sure you do.....

And if you did, who brags about their wife ****ting out those many kids? She must look terrible. Stomach probably looks like a road map, droopy tits, fat, etc.

Imagine defending being forever alone by attacking someone for having a family.. pathetic.