Why do I need to wear a mask after I get vaccinated?

[Seatard]

Wait.....you would actually wear a mask outdoors??? Seriously guy?

Yep, quite a bit.

I compete in outdoor sporting events and the sanctioning bodies require it.

I could sit out but I put a lot of work into being a slightly above average competitor and don't see a mask as a reason to give up.

[wickedman]

Only thing holding back the onslaught right now is the governemnt hasn't fully embraced a vaccine with FDA approval.

Once that happens companies will have free reign to require vaccination. And they will.

I've seen the draft policy at my place of work and it's going to get ugly.

I think it's more the lack of assured availability than anything - I'm more doubtful there will be FDA approval prior to businesses going this route. It would also become too complicated to navigate the fact that (if done with any integrity) the different vaccines would be getting approval at different times.

The only thing that gives me any pause that we are headed in that direction, is that above all else these companies care about $$ infinitely more than public safety. Right now, all of them are operating under the unanimous no restrictions approach, and there will be very high financial risk for the first company to cut out 40% of the population from the ability to give them money. Unless enough places did it fairly simultaneously for public shame to be directed against companies that weren't doing the same, I think they prefer to not have those restrictions in place if it will cost them financially.

The first place it will probably show up is in employees rather than customers. It's easier to tell someone (if allowed) to get the vaccine or you are canned, knowing that the burden of losing their job is enough for most people holding out to feel forced into it. And it doesn't have the same financial implications. Hospital employees will be the first showdown I think.

[Travis99]

It’s never been about safety or slowing the spread of covid. That’s why

[Dave22reborn]

You can still transmit covid to unvaxxed people, is the problem. It is for their protection that there is still a mask mandate. Once enough of the population is vaxxed, the mask mandates will come down.

Unless you live in a state like Arizona, Texas, Florida, etc.

[Noliberals4]

So?

The other guy said we voted for this. Even if we got Trump, we'd still be getting mandatory vaccines.

[Noliberals4]

How would other employees know you showed your card to the first person?

The same way Costco knows I showed my card before coming in. The fact I am already in there.

[Dave22reborn]

Yep, quite a bit.

I compete in outdoor sporting events and the sanctioning bodies require it.

I could sit out but I put a lot of work into being a slightly above average competitor and don't see a mask as a reason to give up.

So you wear it for a sporting event? Why else would you wear it outside? Especially since you don't have to.

[Dave22reborn]

The other guy said we voted for this. Even if we got Trump, we'd still be getting mandatory vaccines.

They're not mandatory.

[Noliberals4]

They're not mandatory.

In context in that conversation they were.

[BlackJack619]

It might be because your ugly?


Feel free to use my sig.

[ezmac31]

A lot of science denying boot licking libs ITT. Just an observation

[W8isGR8]

You can still transmit covid to unvaxxed people, is the problem. It is for their protection that there is still a mask mandate. Once enough of the population is vaxxed, the mask mandates will come down.

Imagine being unable to think of anyone but yourself

[Seatard]

I think it's more the lack of assured availability than anything - I'm more doubtful there will be FDA approval prior to businesses going this route. It would also become too complicated to navigate the fact that (if done with any integrity) the different vaccines would be getting approval at different times.

The only thing that gives me any pause that we are headed in that direction, is that above all else these companies care about $$ infinitely more than public safety. Right now, all of them are operating under the unanimous no restrictions approach, and there will be very high financial risk for the first company to cut out 40% of the population from the ability to give them money. Unless enough places did it fairly simultaneously for public shame to be directed against companies that weren't doing the same, I think they prefer to not have those restrictions in place if it will cost them financially.

The first place it will probably show up is in employees rather than customers. It's easier to tell someone (if allowed) to get the vaccine or you are canned, knowing that the burden of losing their job is enough for most people holding out to feel forced into it. And it doesn't have the same financial implications. Hospital employees will be the first showdown I think.

Mostly agreed, I conflated customers and employees in my earlier post.

I work at a fairly large private company that is essentially federally funded. We'd have a vaccine requirement now but for now the legal group thinks it isn't worth requiring employees to get an experimental vaccine even in an emergency. In a few months the policy will pretty much say that the mandatory compliance is voluntary until FDA approval of at least one vaccine. After that Karen from HR will be on everyone's ass about getting vaccinated.

On the customer side I think the nature of the business will be the main factor. Airlines and cruise ships and such will find it more profitable to play along. A place like Home Depot or Walmart will pretend to totally care about everyone's health but won't actually do anything.

[Dave22reborn]

Imagine being unable to think of anyone but yourself

Why aren't cases rising in Texas then?

[tunejunkie]

You're thinking emotionally instead of practically. "The left" aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Business will appease them if that's what it takes.

At least in the near term, kicking and screaming will mean getting left behind.

And this is what you voted for

[Seatard]

So you wear it for a sporting event? Why else would you wear it outside? Especially since you don't have to.

I live in a warm climate, I've been to several outdoor work and social events over the last year. Most of our restaurants and bars built outdoor seating and had mask rules. Our state and national parks were requiring them too.

I didn't wear a mask when fukking around in my yard if that's what you're thinking.

[hendrixfreak70]

Why should you you have to wear a shirt if you go in a building if you don't have tits?

Answer: My building, my rules.

Why should I have to bake a cake for you if I don’t want to?

My bakery, my rules.

[Seatard]

And this is what you voted for

LOL Stay the course Trumper. Stay the course.

[GreatOldOne]

The same way Costco knows I showed my card before coming in. The fact I am already in there.

They don't know until you checkout if you belong...at least if that's like Sam's and BJ's.

[nin-com-poop]

Masks are here to stay for another 2 years minimum. People want to live in fear. Stop complaining and wear your mask.

[Seatard]

Why should I have to bake a cake for you if I don’t want to?

My bakery, my rules.

I agree, don't know how that cake place managed to fuk that up so bad.

Don't be stupid and boldly pick a fight with a protected class.

Just say the oven broke.

[jamalfudge]

Transmission to unvaccinated people?

Think that ship sailed way before the vaKKKs came out.

[wickedman]

Mostly agreed, I conflated customers and employees in my earlier post.

I work at a fairly large private company that is essentially federally funded. We'd have a vaccine requirement now but for now the legal group thinks it isn't worth requiring employees to get an experimental vaccine even in an emergency. In a few months the policy will pretty much say that the mandatory compliance is voluntary until FDA approval of at least one vaccine. After that Karen from HR will be on everyone's ass about getting vaccinated.

On the customer side I think the nature of the business will be the main factor. Airlines and cruise ships and such will find it more profitable to play along. A place like Home Depot or Walmart will pretend to totally care about everyone's health but won't actually do anything.

Interesting, I guess that makes more sense the more I think about it. I'll have to do some research into if there has been any discussion regarding a timetable for FDA approval at this point. I work in a medical setting so it will be out of my hands I think, still interesting though.

[tunejunkie]

LOL Stay the course Trumper. Stay the course.

You literally voted for Biden lmao. You wanted all of this

[tunejunkie]

I don’t understand the obsession trying to make people choose one way or the other. Literally you have the freedom to do what you want.

There’s literally 0 reason to not open up the country right now.

If you want the vax get it
If you don’t. Don’t.

But open up and life moves on.

I don’t see why that can’t happen.

[Noliberals4]

Imagine being unable to think of anyone but yourself

78% of Americans hospitalized due to covid were obese. By not fat shaming, you are causing many deaths. Obesity has done more to kill Americans than not wearing masks.

[DKM89]

Can someone explain the reasoning behind getting the vaccine if you've already had covid? Also why they're saying you only need one dose and not both if you've already had covid?

I've already had covid, don't want to pump myself with some experimental vaccine yet the push to get is coming from everywhere.

[swimmer32]

Odds are you will not have to wear a mask soon. Once you are fully vaccinated, there is a very small chance that you could catch, and then transmit, the virus to others. The rules to keep masking are in place right now because it would be impossible for businesses to police who is vaccinated, and who isn't, who should be masked, and who shouldn't. Once the vaccine is widely available and anybody who wants it can get it, then the mask policies should go away. No need to punish the vaccinated if someone chooses not to get the vaccine.

[ceizer1985]

Sorry bub. And make sure you’re triple masking. You’re putting others at risk from your shedding. You filthy dog

Triple mask your penis. Got to stop you from reproducing.

[ceizer1985]

You literally voted for Biden lmao. You wanted all of this

Yep...we wanted America to open up and ppl to get vaccinated as soon as possible.