Dear Miscers Seeking Wives

[ErnieMccracken]

Too much truth.

I don't think it's good vs. bad. It's the number of people who are compatible with a lifestyle that is no longer supported by mainstream society.

Most people aren't naturally cut out for that life.

[Devils]

Did not read
but it is statistical fact that women/men with more partners have shorter marriages. Statistically if you want a long marriage, then don't **** around too much beforehand.

[LoLBrah69]

Did not read
but it is statistical fact that women/men with more partners have shorter marriages. Statistically if you want a long marriage, then don't **** around too much beforehand.

Is it that the fuking around makes you more likely to divorce, or the type of people who fuk around are more likely to divorce?

I'm of the opinion that its the type of people.

Fuking around and divorce are just the symptoms of immaturity or emotional instability.

[katya422]

Yeah yeah blah blah blah OP hurry up and deliver on the good stuff.

Meh...tits and ass, tits and ass, blah, blah, blah-



Maybe another day. I've been known to have a lapse in judgement from time to time.

I don't think it's good vs. bad. It's the number of people who are compatible with a lifestyle that is no longer supported by mainstream society.

Most people aren't naturally cut out for that life.

IMO the "not naturally cut out for that" is lame.

We are naturally cut out to seek high calorie density foods and eat a lot of them when we can find them as the next meal could be a long time coming and of questionable quality. That's been the smart play for most of human existence, and could be again in the future.

Right now? Not the greatest idea for most of us.

Children actually do the best if they have 3 committed adult caretakers. Someone did a study. That could be mom and dad plus a grandparent, aunt/uncle, older sibling...heck it could even be two moms and a day.

I can't argue against your point that mainstream society currently doesn't support what we call the traditional nuclear family.

Maybe there is a different family system that we will morph to. ATM the single mom family appears to be insufficient for raising boys to be good men.

I believe an extended family matriarchy might work (females of a family cohabitate to share child rearing duties w/brothers filling the masculine role instead of lovers). Your lover might leave you, but your brother knows he is related to you and your child. Romance & sex could be divorced from cohabitation and family that way.

[GlassMoon]

ive pretty much conceited to the fact i will die alone and never be happy again.

[Xgamer791]

We granny maxing now?

[legbroke]

Resident misc granny here bored of another "female body count" thread.

It might be nice to think that her education level, number of previous partners, parents' marriage, or size of her arms will guarantee your "happily ever after" marriage. Real life doesn't work like that.

I generally agree with the sentiment in the OP, but I don't think I do for this last bit. Maybe if it does just mean, "yeah, these things don't *guarantee* a happy marriage," but to that end, I don't think anything else in the OP really *guarantees* a good marriage either.

I think it's pretty trivial to argue that this list can easily contribute to your attraction to your partner and whether your values and vision are shared.

Looking at body count in particular since this is what seems to have started this, I feel like it does tell you a decent amount about someone's views on sex. I think that's a pretty important value for a relationship, and I don't think this is an uncommon opinion.

I won't argue that misc doesn't have dumb views on body count/sex, but I think body count is still a fairly relevant metric for a large portion of the population.

[LoLBrah69]

Actually it was inspired by this thread:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=179007281

I don't know that you can get there in 3 dates. If you wanna go for more efficiency then you might want to set yourself up in a "group interview" type situation. Do you have a friend group? Know other guys that are looking too, but maybe not for exactly what you are looking for?

If you can pull together a crew with regular social activities then you can spend time with multiple women and some of them repeatedly. Would be tough to do right now because of the pandemic restrictions, but that has to end eventually.

It doesn't have to be over three dates, its not just about efficiency with time. But asking the right questions, looking for the right signs, will let you know how sincere that person is. It would also let you know if the person even knows himself or herself enough to be ready for commitment.

Not to get too pointed and personal, but I'm sure that you had similar questions/conversations about shared vision and goals with both your ex's, but you were not able to uncover the truth about them.

I gotta go, but I'll be putting together a revised edition of my thread in the RH section in a couple days.
I hope to see you there sweetie.

[4ea]

almost all millennial women dont know how to be a good girlfriend because their minds are too selfish.

the best advice i could give on dating is to enjoy your girlfriend but dont ever get attached because it could end at any time for any reason.

[homers54321]

Subbed for later

[A-man]

Agree pretty much. Although I would place less emphasis on attraction. Important in the beginning you bet, but it always wanes. And you better hope everything else is spot on when that happens (usually a few years in).

[ErnieMccracken]

IMO the "not naturally cut out for that" is lame.

We are naturally cut out to seek high calorie density foods and eat a lot of them when we can find them as the next meal could be a long time coming and of questionable quality. That's been the smart play for most of human existence, and could be again in the future.

Right now? Not the greatest idea for most of us.

Children actually do the best if they have 3 committed adult caretakers. Someone did a study. That could be mom and dad plus a grandparent, aunt/uncle, older sibling...heck it could even be two moms and a day.

I can't argue against your point that mainstream society currently doesn't support what we call the traditional nuclear family.

Maybe there is a different family system that we will morph to. ATM the single mom family appears to be insufficient for raising boys to be good men.

I believe an extended family matriarchy might work (females of a family cohabitate to share child rearing duties w/brothers filling the masculine role instead of lovers). Your lover might leave you, but your brother knows he is related to you and your child. Romance & sex could be divorced from cohabitation and family that way.

Why is it lame? I've known since I was a kid that I didn't want that life even though I come from a big family and my folks are still together. It doesn't make sense within the context of modern society and doesn't fit my personal life goals. I guess never say never, but the selection of potential partners only seems to be narrowing as I get older. You are a miscer, so you should be aware of what it's like.

I think traditional nuclear families will slowly disappear in the coming generations and we will go back to being more communal. I'm not sure how it will work, but we're definitely at the beginning of a major transition now. Everything is going back to nature and families are no different.

[katya422]

Why is it lame? I've known since I was a kid that I didn't want that life even though I come from a big family and my folks are still together. It doesn't make sense within the context of modern society and doesn't fit my personal life goals. I guess never say never, but the selection of potential partners only seems to be narrowing as I get older. You are a miscer, so you should be aware of what it's like.

I think traditional nuclear families will slowly disappear in the coming generations and we will go back to being more communal. I'm not sure how it will work, but we're definitely at the beginning of a major transition now. Everything is going back to nature and families are no different.

To me it sounds like an excuse; as in "monogamous committed relationships are too hard". A lot of things are difficult.

If you meant "suited" to mean preference instead of ability then that isn't lame, that is just people.

If you make something a priority (in this case a wife and kids) then the difficulty shouldn't put you off it.

Agree we are at a major transition point. Saw a good video that outlined a lot and matched up with my thoughts on it generally. Haven't gotten around to posting it though.

We granny maxing now?

Yes.

Agree pretty much. Although I would place less emphasis on attraction. Important in the beginning you bet, but it always wanes. And you better believe everything else is spot on when that happens (usually a few years in).

Bet if you have a favorite Golden Girl it isn't about her face and body.



Aging happens. I intend to see a woman I can recognize as myself in the mirror for as long as I can though.

[dogorman7]

Resident misc granny here bored of another "female body count" thread.

There isn't one single reliable factor to find the right wifey for you. Yeah, there are "red flags" to watch out for and you may absolutely have your own personal preferences.

But by putting up more and more "gates" to filter your choices you may reduce your pool of likely candidates down to a point where you can't find anyone at all either due to chance or your own personal value vs. the value of the women you are pursuing.

There are still some good ones out there. I think there must be since good parents mostly raise good kids.

If you are serious about wanting to have a family the common factors I've seen in relationships that last are:

Attraction: Doesn't matter if other people think your choice is hot, just if you think she is attractive. Attraction can start with face + body, but it can also be things like sound of her voice, how she moves, a sparkle in her eyes, the way she dresses, etc. etc. etc.

Good Character: Does she have integrity? Loyalty? Kindness? Perseverance? Bravery? Openness?You may have some others that matter to you. Those first few matter quite a bit though. If she keeps her word, isn't two-faced, wouldn't intentionally lash out at someone who is down, and doesn't quit at the first hard situation, or the second, then you have a better chance of making it.

Shared Vision: Do you want the same thing? Share the way that you prioritize? This is big.

If you can't imagine a life with kids or a life without them then you want to know if you are on the same page early. Is religion important to you and are your partners desires around faith compatible? Do you want to always live near your family or do you want to tramp around until something clicks? Maybe there is someplace that you have always wanted to live. Do you expect to share all of the work (earning money, keeping house, childcare, money management) or are there areas that you want primary control of, or want minimal involvement with? Talk that out. Maybe you both want children, but neither one wants to be a stay home parent. Could be that you can arrange your jobs/work schedules so that you both share in child rearing, or maybe you hire someone or use outside childcare.

That's it. It might be nice to think that her education level, number of previous partners, parents' marriage, or size of her arms will guarantee your "happily ever after" marriage. Real life doesn't work like that.

Pics of a woman I found on Insta while looking at pics of RVs.

About 5 years ago:



She met a man (fellow outdoor enthusiast/hiker), fell in love, got married.

He is a welder and travels to jobsites. They wanted to keep their family together, so they bought a toyhauler and took to the road:



Over the years they have had 3 children (which has to be very challenging under the circumstances) and they seem happy together:



Don't trip yourself up with a bunch of superficial BS.

fake and gay

No women has these in 2020 who isn’t already taken

0/10 troll effort

[ErnieMccracken]

To me it sounds like an excuse; as in "monogamous committed relationships are too hard". A lot of things are difficult.

If you meant "suited" to mean preference instead of ability then that isn't lame, that is just people.

It's like any other investment. Risk has to be balanced with reward. For most men, marriage has infinite downside (you lose everything) and what is the upside? I don't see how that property contract nets you much of anything.

If you want to be in a long term relationship, keep her around as long as you both want. No need for the government.

[Antoine99]

I don't date women cuz girls like dink and that's ghey, I only date men because men like poosy.

























Good advice though

[A-man]

To me it sounds like an excuse; as in "monogamous committed relationships are too hard". A lot of things are difficult.

If you meant "suited" to mean preference instead of ability then that isn't lame, that is just people.

If you make something a priority (in this case a wife and kids) then the difficulty shouldn't put you off it.

Agree we are at a major transition point. Saw a good video that outlined a lot and matched up with my thoughts on it generally. Haven't gotten around to posting it though.



Yes.



Bet if you have a favorite Golden Girl it isn't about her face and body.



Aging happens. I intend to see a woman I can recognize as myself in the mirror for as long as I can though.

You are right aging happens. But people will always begin to crave the excitement of someone new after a number of years as the boredom kicks in. At that point it’s everything else that is necessary to hold it all together and keep people loyal to one another. This is true for men and women and regardless of gym maxxing.

[FAPhaggot]

That's it. It might be nice to think that her education level, number of previous partners, parents' marriage, or size of her arms will guarantee your "happily ever after" marriage. Real life doesn't work like that.

That one works tho.

[smallpp]

Problem for me is I don't have good social skills, and I'm introverted (have been since a child). I'm not that smart either, and my career path isn't going to make me rich either. I'd take a shot with anyone, but even anyone is hard to find

[Coal Man]

1. Posts this pic

About 5 years ago:

2. Is marriage material.



Pick one.

OP you always stood out as a pleasant lady with good intentions but being a woman you already don't have the best advice for men because you have not lived our perspective. Also, you never lived the perspective from a marriage working out either.

So no offense, and I say this in the nicest way but who the fuk are you to offer us advice? All your points aren't wrong, by no means am I saying that but you open up your post with a pic of a topless attention slore and go on to show us that she turned into "perfect marriage material"? That is just setting up miscers for failure.

[Aristotelian]

Of course there are extremes with body count that head into fundamental attitudes and mental health territory. I posted this up in response to a thread that was the usual misc (under 5/ zero) chorus about women worth marrying. Someone could have quite a few casual encounters while in an experimental stage and then mature and be ready to settle down. Alternately another person could have very few partners, but got burned by them and is carrying baggage from those prior relationships that hinder their ability to be open and trusting, or to simply not project the behavior of past partners onto a new partner.

Of course. And those experiences you mention are important to assess, as well - like some men and women who are cheated on once and, focusing on that trauma, start believing things (you see it on this forum) like "ALL MEN AND WOMEN ARE CHEATERS!!!"

The 'no hymen no diamond' type retards aren't really worth trying to help. And there is no rational male on this planet who wants to marry a virgin, lol. But I digress...

[soaponarope1]

That's it. It might be nice to think that her education level, number of previous partners, parents' marriage, or size of her arms will guarantee your "happily ever after" marriage. Real life doesn't work like that.

I'm going to go ahead and disagree, as what you listed here (other than arm size obviously) serve as very big indicators to someone's values and beliefs. As someone who is happily married to a woman who is 9 years younger and didn't go around town banging randoms I can say with complete confidence that every single woman I met who did had terrible value systems and beliefs. And no, I am not interested in someone who 'changed', I don't have a biological reason to worry about finding the right person before 30 and have to make compromises with my values if I can't.

This post is somewhat accurate but a lot of cope for people who think past and present actions aren't an indicator of their value system.

[katya422]

1. Posts this pic



2. Is marriage material.



Pick one.

OP you always stood out as a pleasant lady with good intentions but being a woman you already don't have the best advice for men because you have not lived our perspective. Also, you never lived the perspective from a marriage working out either.

So no offense, and I say this in the nicest way but [B]who the fuk are you to offer us advice? All your points aren't wrong, by no means am I saying that but you open up your post with a pic of a topless attention slore and go on to show us that she turned into "perfect marriage material"? That is just setting up miscers for failure.

Well that first bold bit I addressed earlier ITT. By no means see myself as an expert on the topic.

The second one was kind of the point. Someone may reflect the culture in their age group without being a lost cause. Not saying there is no pattern there at all; i.e. if a girl had tons of photos in questionable situations or seems to be constantly flashing her bits for validation. It seems like some miscers are absolutists to a degree that they may exclude good prospects over something trivial and miss out on getting to know more potential partners.

Of course. And those experiences you mention are important to assess, as well - like some men and women who are cheated on once and, focusing on that trauma, start believing things (you see it on this forum) like "ALL MEN AND WOMEN ARE CHEATERS!!!"

The 'no hymen no diamond' type retards aren't really worth trying to help. And there is no rational male on this planet who wants to marry a virgin, lol. But I digress...

Strong bump.

And I've been told I should "try women" because I haven't done great with men. But I don't think all men are cheaters, or all men suck.

I really miss being in a relationship sometimes. And sometimes I would just like to get laid.

Then I think about actually trying to meet people and date...



Looks scary out there.

[BetaAsPhuck]

Problem for me is I don't have good social skills, and I'm introverted (have been since a child). I'm not that smart either, and my career path isn't going to make me rich either. I'd take a shot with anyone, but even anyone is hard to find

Phuck brah, the mood of your post is the equivalent of watching this scene from True Detective...



I hope some miscers can give you good advice. You're gonna make it.

[six2mogger]

Problem for me is I don't have good social skills, and I'm introverted (have been since a child). I'm not that smart either, and my career path isn't going to make me rich either. I'd take a shot with anyone, but even anyone is hard to find

wincel, pls. ruby offered you a date.

[janglingjack]

So an attention seeking kunt who posts topless pics on social media is what female miscers consider the ideal marriage material

Just fukin lol

[Cass40]

So an attention seeking kunt who posts topless pics on social media is what female miscers consider the ideal marriage material

Just fukin lol

Is it OK to post a pic of your topless back if you made gainzz?

[Coal Man]

Is it OK to post a pic of your topless back if you made gainzz?

The implication of a topless pic is that your breasts are hanging out on the other side. First of all, she clearly isn't making a post to show off her back gainz, you don't have to be on top of a fuking mountain to do that. It's obviously a sexual angle she's going for.

Secondly, you can have on gym clothes and still show off your back right?

[hoganrulz]

Is it OK to post a pic of your topless back if you made gainzz?

Just post your titlets bb

[six2mogger]

The implication of a topless pic is that your breasts are hanging out on the other side. First of all, she clearly isn't making a post to show off her back gainz, you don't have to be on top of a fuking mountain to do that. It's obviously a sexual angle she's going for.

Secondly, you can have on gym clothes and still show off your back right?

she was prolly showing it to one of these:

Spoiler!

while her boyfriend took the picture

Spoiler!