Chalk up another L for this false prophet. Let's do a recap:
-depressed because of his wife's Illness. Rather than be a fukking man and stay strong for her in a time of need be became a shell of himself and overcome with panic and sadness.
-drug addict. Tried to treat his panic and sadness with drugs rather than a good old fashion lifting session and Marcus Aurelius quotes. Got hooked on the drugs and went to rebhab straight bitchmade no willpower having mfer.
-got the Rona. Seriously how fukking weak does your system have to be to catch Rona and actually have symptoms? Fukking pathetic son.
Srs but wish him a speedy recovery.
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Thread: Jordan Peterson has coronavirus
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08-07-2020, 07:35 AM #31HTC
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08-07-2020, 07:36 AM #32
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08-07-2020, 07:40 AM #33
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08-07-2020, 07:41 AM #34
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He was on the benzos due to an autoimmune reaction to food, then had a paradoxical reaction meaning he couldn't come straight off without making his symptoms much much worse, which is what caused his recent problems...
Although i understand the uselessness of replying seriously as i sense a trolling element to this post lol
He did an interview one month ago explaining what happened in depth, see my previous post.
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08-07-2020, 07:45 AM #35
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08-07-2020, 07:46 AM #36
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08-07-2020, 07:48 AM #38
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08-07-2020, 07:48 AM #39
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IDk watch the interview i posted on the previous page, and draw your own conclusions. I'm not a doctor, i'm just repeating what was stated.
My understanding of the logic is, the severe autoimmune reaction to food led to severe anxiety/inability to sleep, which is what led to prescription of benzos, leading to a paradoxical reaction... leading to his plethora of issues. Stack that with his wife getting sick and at the time being told she's terminal, and to me it's pretty understandable. At the end of the day he's just a man, he's not invincible, and he has the same vulnerabilities as other humans and has never pretended that he doesn't, nor pretended he's perfect.
Either way I don't care, him getting sick doesn't invalidate his work. I don't agree with every single thing he says, but his body of work as a whole is a positive influence and good material.
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08-07-2020, 07:51 AM #40
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08-07-2020, 07:59 AM #41
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08-07-2020, 08:02 AM #42
I remember hearing he was sick or in a coma or something, and saw a bunch of pink haired *******s celebrating, as per the usual for those sociopaths.
This guy so decisively categorized, defined, and called out the Cultural Marxist and post-modernist brats, that they developed a searing, passionate hatred of him. They frame him as this evil dude and anyone who follows him as alt-right trolls. I can't stand the radical left, such massive *******s.
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08-07-2020, 08:12 AM #43
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08-07-2020, 08:17 AM #44
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08-07-2020, 08:25 AM #45
I'll give you the cliffs on what he stands for and why he's a bit of a controversial figure. I don't follow him closely so I'm willing to be corrected on any of the following
- Free speech advocate
- Major figure in the culture war
- Proponent of anti-victim mentality, taking responsibility as a way to find meaning in life.
- Vehemently against equality of outcomes yet is also an interventionist who wants to redistribute sex
- Wrote a self-help book for manchildren that tells you to clean your room, which is apparently a metaphor for getting your life in order.
- Perhaps most controversially, he became dependent on benzos and and sought addiction treatment in Russia. Was later placed in a medically induced coma so he didn't have to physically experience detox.
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08-07-2020, 08:25 AM #46
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08-07-2020, 08:28 AM #47
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08-07-2020, 08:31 AM #48
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08-07-2020, 08:38 AM #49
he has co-invented a boogeyman in "cultural marxism", which he imagines as a combination of new progressivism movements in gender neutrois along with 20th century french "post-modernism" (a broad and not-clearly defined concept of the philosophical deconstruction of western institutions, most popularly perhaps by post Vietnam intelligentsia)
he sets this boogeyman up as the cause of society ills, and offers a solution by way of typical self-help and attendance to the "daily detail", eg cleaning one's room and making one's bed.
these ideas resonate with young men who were not previously cleaning their rooms.do not read my posts and weep, i am not there i do not sleep
i am the thousand greens that rep, i am the ban bet dutifully kept
of memes and trolls in toasted breads, i am not there, i am not dead.
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08-07-2020, 08:39 AM #50
-recovering drug addict
-terrible immune system
-has had pneumonia more than once in the last year
there's a pretty good chance he dies.
I think he quit after he was making a million a month off patreon/paypal. Then he had a mental breakdown over his wife's cancer and his drug use. Now he's a shell of a person AFAIK
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08-07-2020, 08:39 AM #51
The term stems from the German word "kulturkampf" in the late 1870's, but was more recently adopted by American conservatives in the 1990s to describe the “culture war” between those who identified with traditional values and the more open, hedonistic, and progressive cultural trends. It's vaguely defined, but it basically means controversial issues that fall along set tribal lines. For example, political correctness infringing on traditional values. To give an obvious example, the "war on Christmas" is considered a part of the "culture war."
I agree, it's a little jargon-y.
It's more than a little weird that it takes a strange man hawking a book to get a generation of men to do what their mother's have been telling them for 20 years.
I have noticed that cultural marxism is a buzzphrase of the potato populists on the misc, yes.
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08-07-2020, 08:40 AM #52
He's a psychology professor from Canada that started doing deep-dive lectures on the ways in which society is slipping into Idiocracy. The autistic Spongebobs of generation Z did NOT take kindly to this guy's rhetoric, because it debunked the propaganda that has been force-fed to them since birth, so they started trashing him and framing him as some alt-right figurehead, and all the people who enjoy listening to his lectures or podcast appearances as people who were unable to function in society before hearing him speak. On the flip, there were some weirdos who treated his words rather culty, but they were far less numerous in number than the cult trying to say he's a white nationalist or transphobic or whatever. The guy was uploading free college lectures for years before this sh!t, but he blew up when he went on Joe Rogan.
Alt-Right = People always say these weirdos are NAZIS or some other bullsh!t, but in reality, it's mostly 4chan autists that use Pepe the Frog to troll. I find them annoying, but no one takes them seriously, they have almost no impact or influence on mainstream culture and society. They do, however, command power over the other side, in that they frequently trick them into running with faux grievances. (Someone can correct me, I may be wrong, but I believe the free bleed movement, in which smug, narcissistic chicks just bleed all over their clothes and rub their kids face in it and brag about their periods, was actually started from a 4chan trolling. That is what the alt-right does.)
Marxist = "We're too lazy to do anything so we'll blame the system on our complete lack of intellect, talent, or work ethic. We'll frame everything as racist, sexist, and ____phobic, but constantly slander Christians, men, and whitey. We'll invade aspects of culture and art other people created with the primary intention of destroying that thing and mocking the people who derived meaning from it prior. Then we'll call them manbabies for getting annoyed, despite the fact we judge an entire race of people based on sh!t that happened centuries before we were born."
In a nutshell, Cultural Marxism takes the ideals of communism, but instead of rich vs poor it's "minorities" vs "the oppressing class." So they frame white people as evil, Catholics as evil, masculine men as evil. And they frame "People of color," women, all religions without Jesus, and any sexuality that isn't straight as "the oppressed." Their cultural invasions and attempts to stifle or ruin stuff other people made is their payback for "colonialism." Of course, they're completely insane since every country has bloody history. They judge people in 2020 based on the actions of their potential ancestors, and they judge people from hundreds of years ago on the strict Evangelical Marxism they practice in 2020. It's all backwards, they're hypocrites and cowards.
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08-07-2020, 08:43 AM #53
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08-07-2020, 08:45 AM #55
i dont think their boomer mothers forced them to make their beds, i think thats the issue.
i think there is somethin to his notions of the loss of a "transitional ceremony" from adolescent american males to adult american males, and there is something to cleaning your room. the notion is shocking to me because i didn't realize how bad things really were.
he jocks joseph campbell to the extreme (i do too, so)do not read my posts and weep, i am not there i do not sleep
i am the thousand greens that rep, i am the ban bet dutifully kept
of memes and trolls in toasted breads, i am not there, i am not dead.
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08-07-2020, 08:45 AM #56
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08-07-2020, 08:46 AM #57
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08-07-2020, 08:46 AM #58
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lmfao best summary I've ever seen of this guy.
My feelings on him are summed up thusly: he doesn't make nearly as many incendiary claims or statements as people assume, but because he refuses to clarify a lot of his stances and because he's become so inexplicably famous, a LOT of groups have chosen to interpret him as basically whatever they want to, including incels/MGTOW people and extreme left-wingers. This means that most of what we discuss regarding him are straw man versions of his beliefs... not that I think most people really care what he believes; he's just a totem to people, like Trump, whose notorious vagueness means that people can project whatever they already believe onto whatever nonsense he spews.
Where I object to Peterson is basically--he doesn't decry the more toxic of his supporters, which lends legitimacy to a lot of kooks hiding behind his name.
I certainly don't wish him ill or hope he dies.
I also think carnivore is probably not a healthy diet and he might want to find some other way of eating."The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously."
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08-07-2020, 08:49 AM #59
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Jordan has a great mind, but his case illustrates how money and power can get to one's head. I don't fully buy the story that he started taking benzos purely because his wife's illness (I'm sure that played a part in it). I think more likely he became an overnight sensation and millionaire and had a chit ton of pressure with constant media appearances and live talks. That kind of pressure and having to always be on your A game which can lead people to seeking something to take the edge off and calm down their anxiety. At the end of the day, he is human with all the the imperfections that come with.
Sucks because we've needed his voice more than ever the last 6 months.Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
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08-07-2020, 08:49 AM #60
^ yes, he goes for the dirt lowest hanging fruit, and when extreme fringe progressivists react to his attacks on this (no-so mainstream ideas) he says "see how ALL THE LEFT ATTACKS ME?"
nothing he says is particularly inflammatory, except it triggers me that he thinks literally everything is marxism, when it was quite clear in his (ethering by) debate with zizek, he'd never even cracked kapital.do not read my posts and weep, i am not there i do not sleep
i am the thousand greens that rep, i am the ban bet dutifully kept
of memes and trolls in toasted breads, i am not there, i am not dead.
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