[UK GTFIH] I got into medical school in UK, should I ditch my current career? (reps)

[atgbrahsrs]

Please help:

- Comp sci graduate, 23yo

- Work in software in banking in London

- I got accepted in a UK Medicine course, lasting 5 years (will be 28 when I graduate).

- Tutition fees fully paid by the GOV (For USA brahs viewing, the difference however is Doctors in EU do not make the disproportionate salary USA doctors make to other careers in US)

- Then obviously you start working for a salary but also taking on specialisation training (USA brahs read residency)

- Super competitive degree-country ratio. USA, Canada and UK, this is the degree with the most competition due to prestige, stability and money +quality of healthcare system.


Please see if my though process is sound and give some thoughts, especially UK brahs:

- I fully believe that I literally can use a fulfilling career. I am not rich, probably can't make it to CEO 10k day so I will work for the rest of my life.

- Comp sci is very indirect, I am not really passionate about it.

- I make 50 000 sterling pre-tax annually but this is because it is tech in finance.

- Worried about outsourcing, ageism and changing tech all the time.

- Corporate grind...


With Medicine on the other hand:

- Stable forever.

- Helping people directly.

- Values come with age, a lot of teaching exit opportunities.

- Money is still very above average and some people told me that online salaries don't reflect because they are from the socialised system. While most doctors work separately for private practice and get much more on the side.

- Tech is coming to Med putting me at a very educated, advantageous place.


Other options include, ditching medicine and since I don't have a masters I get a masters in Finance/Management Consulting or something else that takes only 1 year to switch into but I feel the soullessness would be the same.


Discuss pls srs. Not looking for a "Do this" but I have anxiety as this is a big decision.

[atgbrahsrs]

I believe that both fields are great to go into, however given that you said you aren't particularly passionate about computer science I would definitely suggest you to go the medical school route. To state the obvious there is prestige, a good salary, and generally never and shortages of work for medical doctors. Also it is good that your fees will be paid for any you are young and will have a good amount of time to develop your medical career. I am currently studying for a PhD in biophysics as it is my passion however I would definitely have gone to medical school as well as it is a great route for life overall and very flexible.

yeah makes sense.

[MetroBrah]

alpha af brah. proud of you mane srs

[jimberee]

Paid for? That's insane. is it true for everyone? Do it 100%. Hard work for a few years but then you're set, cushy job, meaningful. Can move to any country. 28 is nothing, you'll work til 70.

[Fortitudo]

- Comp sci is very indirect, I am not really passionate about it.

I feel like this sums it up.

Obviously it's a lot more complicated, but if you already know you're not passionate about Comp Sci, then you'll inevitabely end up hating it at some point if you make a career out of it. Add to that the potential of outsourcing, the need to stay up to date with new tech and potentially being stuck in a corporate grind (meanwhile operating in a field that you admitedly do not have a passion for in the first place) is all a recipe for disaster.

But then again, being accepted to the course and having a desire to help others is great, but it doesn't necessarily mean you're cut out for Medicine either, and you might realise that a few months/years into your course.

IMO if I was in your position, I would go down the medicine route, assuming I have a lot of passion for it and I'm convinced I have what it takes.

Either way, good luck man.

[HockeyBacon18]

- Tech is coming to Med putting me at a very educated, advantageous place.


Other options include, ditching medicine and since I don't have a masters I get a masters in Finance/Management Consulting or something else that takes only 1 year to switch into but I feel the soullessness would be the same.

if your looking for a fulfilling career, I think med would be a good place. I wouldn't worry to much about being 28 when your done. You may feel behind now but come 28 youll be set for life

[thenightskies]

wtf

uk medical school is a joke to get into

im in med school right now. heres how i got in

planned it since high school. volunteered on weekends so id have a stacked resume
studied a year for MCAT. paid about 1 grand to take the test after 6 months of studying.
applied to best schools more than once which wasnt cheap. then i finally got accepted


fkin comp science majors can get accepted wtf goin in UK

[atgbrahsrs]

if your looking for a fulfilling career, I think med would be a good place. I wouldn't worry to much about being 28 when your done. You may feel behind now but come 28 youll be set for life

fuk brah, hopefully u are right. corporate life seems so soulless

[nothingshocking]

My dad is a doctor, he has had his own practice for 40 years, he was chief of his specialty at a prominent Chicago area hospital, he was a clinical professor at Northwestern, he's "on staff" at University of Chicago and he is part of a group that tours underdeveloped countries on their own dime to teach first world medicine to poverty doctors.


He told me, do whatever you want with your career but don't be a doctor. So I became a CFO.

My dad's an idiot and that was the worst advise anyone has ever given me.

Be a doctor... Do it *******.

[atgbrahsrs]

My dad is a doctor, he has had his own practice for 40 years, he was chief of his specialty at a prominent Chicago area hospital, he was a clinical professor at Northwestern, he's "on staff" at University of Chicago and he is part of a group that tours underdeveloped countries on their own dime to teach first world medicine to poverty doctors.


He told me, do whatever you want with your career but don't be a doctor. So I became a CFO.

My dad's an idiot and that was the worst advise anyone has ever given me.

Be a doctor... Do it *******.

can u elaborate why he was wrong?

btw how do u become a CFO isn't that a C-suite executive position that is not guaranteed?

[atgbrahsrs]

sounds like med school is the way for you breh

if you decide to not like it, you still have your comp sci degree

ty brah

[kingmanaverage]

wtf

uk medical school is a joke to get into

im in med school right now. heres how i got in

planned it since high school. volunteered on weekends so id have a stacked resume
studied a year for MCAT. paid about 1 grand to take the test after 6 months of studying.
applied to best schools more than once which wasnt cheap. then i finally got accepted


fkin comp science majors can get accepted wtf goin in UK

It's not as easy to get into medical school in the UK as op makes it sound.

[atgbrahsrs]

It's not as easy to get into medical school in the UK as op makes it sound.

yes I skipped explaining the exam prep, the exam, the interviews, the case studies, who cares about that I am already in, asking something completely different

[TappingTheZen]

Problem with the UK is, as a GP you're far more capped on salary than USA. Doctors make good money for sure, but they aren't stinking rich like American doctors since they're funded by taxpayers. CS definitely has more room for growing your wealth if you're good at it, and there's more opportunities and jobs in CS, especially if you're good at it. The salary moves up fast when you got experience, i've been doing it for 8 years (software developer) and i'm on significantly more than you are and i don't work in London so salaries are generally a fair whack lower here... but i was on significantly less than you at 23. Moving jobs after i had 3 years experience moved my salary by over double and this isn't unusual in CS.

However, if you don't have a passion for CS and you do for medicine, then you should be a doctor, you'll still be wealthy (and if you don't have any passion for CS you risk stagnating) and most importantly have a fulfilling career.

[atgbrahsrs]

Problem with the UK is, as a GP you're far more capped on salary than USA. Doctors make good money for sure, but they aren't stinking rich like American doctors since they're funded by taxpayers. CS definitely has more room for growing your wealth if you're good at it, and there's more opportunities and jobs in CS, especially if you're good at it. The salary moves up fast when you got experience, i've been doing it for 8 years (software developer) and i'm on significantly more than you are and i don't work in London so salaries are generally a fair whack lower here... but i was on significantly less than you at 23. Moving jobs after i had 3 years experience moved my salary by over double and this isn't unusual in CS.

However, if you don't have a passion for CS and you do for medicine, then you should be a doctor, you'll still be wealthy (and if you don't have any passion for CS you risk stagnating) and most importantly have a fulfilling career.

Do you want to be a doctor

You have to keep training so one of your cons for comp sic is invalid

It’s not just the 5 year course you will still be in training years after gaining dr title

May I ask where you are based? Is it still a big city?


Yes because I think it is more meaningful. I have been volunteering to get into medical school, so I have an idea.


The difference is if you are passionate you will be on top of your game with the latest stuff for fun because it is interesting.

[hoganrulz]

Just get the degree & move to the US. That's more attractive since your tuition is paid for by your home country

[atgbrahsrs]

Lol at all the unawares in the Misc.

Being a doctor in the Uk is a ducking joke.

They implemented socialized medicine and anyone with mediocre grades can get into med school since no wants wants to choose the profession because of the ridiculous hours and limited pay.

There was a huge doctor shortage in England and they improved doctors from India (srs)



Google “why is there a shortage of doctors in the Uk”


Don’t do it ****git. It’s a death sentence.

ok then I will be a 30k per year accounting bashing the Excel got it

[GiveMeTheD]

Go into Dermatology, those doctors rake it in.

[TappingTheZen]

May I ask where you are based? Is it still a big city?


Yes because I think it is more meaningful. I have been volunteering to get into medical school, so I have an idea.


The difference is if you are passionate you will be on top of your game with the latest stuff for fun because it is interesting.

I live in a City, but i work in a town, i'm in Kent.

I think you've mostly answered your own questions anyway, both are good paying careers but passion is important if you're to thrive. It sounds like medicine is what's right for you.

Lol at all the unawares in the Misc.

Being a doctor in the Uk is a ducking joke.

They implemented socialized medicine and anyone with mediocre grades can get into med school since no wants wants to choose the profession because of the ridiculous hours and limited pay.

There was a huge doctor shortage in England and they improved doctors from India (srs)



Google “why is there a shortage of doctors in the Uk”


Don’t do it ****git. It’s a death sentence.

Like i said, GP's don't earn near what they do in America, but they are still hardly on bad pay. It's not uncommon for GP's to make north of £100k. Lots of misinformation here

[kingmanaverage]

yes I skipped explaining the exam prep, the exam, the interviews, the case studies, who cares about that I am already in, asking something completely different

I would go for it if a job in medicine is something that you're really passionate about. You can still make good money as a doctor so it doesn't make sense to sacrifice your mental health for some extra cash.

[TwoHumpChump]

Do you want to be a doctor

You have to keep training so one of your cons for comp sic is invalid

It’s not just the 5 year course you will still be in training years after gaining dr title

I don't think doctors ever stop studying. They typically go to conferences, or CMEs (continuing medical education) they call them here, very frequently. But I think that would be an appealing aspect as you are constantly keeping up on the latest science and developments.

Here most med students have already completed a degree when entering med school so I think they would be around your age, so I would say you are still on the young side. I think it comes down to whether or not you have the passion for it. From what I've heard (med student above can confirm or deny) it is not an easy degree or career. Many, many hours of pure memorization for the first couple of years and then long shifts during residency, which sound like they can really drag a person down.

I wouldn't worry about money. You will always have a steady career if you choose that route and if you find it a satisfying career I think you will get more joy out of that than a huge salary.

[TwoHumpChump]

He won’t be qualified after the 5 year degree, he will have to do a similar amount of time training in hospital and if he wants to be a GP in GP practice

And then continual updating skills

Which is why has has to really want to do it

Yep that's what OP said

[Ladiessman217]

If you can make a plan to get into the U.S and become a plastic surgeon (my dad did it that way in the 80s)
You have a bright future ahead of you.
Gotta really do it with a passion though. There's so many people that studied medicine became docs and are miserable.
You gotta thrive on helping people. Job ain't easy.

[atgbrahsrs]

I live in a City, but i work in a town, i'm in Kent.

How does this stuff work? All companies are either in bigger cities or something like that, innit?


I don't get some fellow grads who bash London all the time yet they can't find that many opportunities in, say, Cambridge. A portion of people from Cambridge commute from it to London for work as far as I know.

Explain what I am missing here? I don't get it. Might be because I am EU and have lived in the UK for only 4 years.

[TappingTheZen]

How does this stuff work? All companies are either in bigger cities or something like that, innit?


I don't get some fellow grads who bash London all the time yet they can't find that many opportunities in, say, Cambridge. A portion of people from Cambridge commute from it to London for work as far as I know.

Explain what I am missing here? I don't get it. Might be because I am EU and have lived in the UK for only 4 years.

Yeah for the most part, the big cities will have the most opportunities, especially London since it's so densely populated and a fairly important city internationally. They will also pay the highest salaries to offset the cost of living.. average salary in the UK is 27k, so when you think about salaries in London it makes sense salaries must be lower elsewhere, 27k in London would be straight poverty. I'm fortunate to earn what i do in Kent, but it's partly offset by the fact there's not as many skilled software developers in Kent either and a lot of them that are commute to London.

[climberbrah]

I am so glad I live in the USA

Our salaries MOG the rest of the world

[ymer]

lmao @ doctors.

What a fkn joke.

[ocelo7]

If youre on the fence of med school vs finance it sounds like you should wait to make a decision. Sounds like you just want a job, which in that case the intensity of med school will kill you if you're not that into it. Not sure how it works in the UK tho.

[atgbrahsrs]

Wait, you’re not British? How are you getting NHS funded degree course?

Shagging a Tory MP daughter who has a fetish of Eastern Europeans


not srs


last train funded degrees for EU is 2020 September entry

2021 entry - EU = International fees


By then I have a British passport tho.


So this makes this an even scarcer opportunity, tbh.


But I will stay in the NHS bae, u don't hate me right?

[atgbrahsrs]

Is it full or partial funding? Tuition and maintenance?

I thought the bursaries only kicked in in later years tbh

You have to go for it don’t you

Babe, it is a Scottish uni, so tuition is free for Home (Scotland) and EU (only this year entry).

I can apply for maintenance loan but I don't need to I have saved up like 50 000 pounds.