5,604 Coronavirus Deaths Worldwide, 20,000-40,000 Deaths In US Alone in 2020 From Flu

[CaliSuperSport]

the worst thing about the whole panic buying things is, most the people doing it are 1 chocolate bar away from diabetes or a heart attack or one smoke away from lung cancer.....and all of a sudden they care about thier health.....

I had a theory it was all the retired/semi-retired middle age fuks with piles of disposable income, just cleaning out shelves. But of course the hysteria caught on and everybody started buying TP like it was Bitcoin circa 2018

[crupiea]

Imagine anyone caring about this in 3 weeks

Alpha normies dont care about this and just live their daily lives

This.

Its all fun and games right now, get an unscheduled vacation from work and everyone is having a laugh with it.

Fun until the boards of directors see their bottom lines and the workers realize this was also an unpaid vacation.

Thats pretty much when safety first goes out the window and its back to business as usual.

These things only matter when they directly affect peoples pay checks.

Come september time or so you wont even be able to remember what coronavirus was. Hell, come next month.

People swallow a good amount of media hype but without anything tangible evidence, like sick people in this case, its all for nothing. Unless you own a toilet paper factory that is.

[proteinsnake]

You’re forgetting the flu has a mortality rate of 0.1% roughly. This has a mortality rate between 2-3% so far that’s a massive difference. Corona is also much more contagious by an r factor of 2-2.5 which puts it just below SARS

2-3% of confirmed cases die. There's probably 100x more people that actually have it who don't feel sick enough to bother getting tested. The actual mortality rate could be the same as the flu.

[Ironmanlet]

>comparing a two month timeframe to an annual estimation and feel god like in my ability to boast to the world how less people are effected.


Urine idiot

[cromofo]

I thought these retarded hot takes were done. Good to see it resides still with some morons

[Anachron]

I thought these retarded hot takes were done. Good to see it resides still with some morons

We also thought the fearmongering was also done, but there's at least two on the first page almost continuously.

[ANumber1]

2-3% of confirmed cases die. There's probably 100x more people that actually have it who don't feel sick enough to bother getting tested. The actual mortality rate could be the same as the flu.

I would love for this to be true and initially thought that must be the case, but after the die-off at LifeCare, I'm very skeptical. If this had already circulated widely, we'd have surely detected more unusual clusters of deaths by inexplicably severe pneumonia among vulnerable people in the same buildings or hospitalizations of healthcare providers like we do in the wake of the known outbreaks.

The WHO report said that asymptomatic cases really did not turn out to be common at all in China. I take it at face value that while we're probably missing many cases related to the outbreaks, that Fauci is right that we're talking about maybe a factor of 3x or 4x, not 100x.

[dabbmw2002]

2-3% of confirmed cases die. There's probably 100x more people that actually have it who don't feel sick enough to bother getting tested. The actual mortality rate could be the same as the flu.

It's far too early to know. A year from know they will have a better idea when we pour through the data. If history is our teacher, we know that initial reports and estimates way off and the media has zero incentive to downplay anything.

For miscers old enough to remember the AIDS "Epidemic", we were all convinced that we were at high risk of getting HIV, and just one encounter unprotected and boom, you got it. Looking back in hindsight, HIV is primarily a concern for male homosexuals and IV drug users. There was never an epidemic in the heterosexual community and most cases involving heterosexuals involve closeted gays who passed it to their female partners.

[Anachron]

I would love for this to be true and initially thought that must be the case, but after the die-off at LifeCare, I'm very skeptical. If this had already circulated widely, we'd have surely detected more unusual clusters of deaths by inexplicably severe pneumonia among vulnerable people in the same buildings or hospitalizations of healthcare providers like we do in the wake of the known outbreaks.

The WHO report said that asymptomatic cases really did not turn out to be common at all in China. I take it at face value that while we're probably missing many cases related to the outbreaks, that Fauci is right that we're talking about maybe a factor of 3x or 4x, not 100x.

How do you detect asymptomatic cases?

[Vrykul]

I would love for this to be true and initially thought that must be the case, but after the die-off at LifeCare, I'm very skeptical. If this had already circulated widely, we'd have surely detected more unusual clusters of deaths by inexplicably severe pneumonia among vulnerable people in the same buildings or hospitalizations of healthcare providers like we do in the wake of the known outbreaks.

The WHO report said that asymptomatic cases really did not turn out to be common at all in China. I take it at face value that while we're probably missing many cases related to the outbreaks, that Fauci is right that we're talking about maybe a factor of 3x or 4x, not 100x.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sci...death-rate/amp

As of February 20, tests of most of the 3,711 people aboard the Diamond Princess confirmed that 634, or 17 percent, had the virus; 328 of them did not have symptoms at the time of diagnosis. Of those with symptoms, the fatality ratio was 1.9 percent, Russell and colleagues calculate. Of all infected, that ratio was 0.91 percent. Those 70 and older were most vulnerable, with an overall fatality ratio of about 7.3 percent.

Extrapolating those numbers to China, the team estimates that 1.1 percent of symptomatic cases there turned deadly. Considering asymptomatic cases drops that ratio to about 0.5 percent in China, the team calculates.

[dabbmw2002]

How do you detect asymptomatic cases?

Mandatory widespread testing, otherwise it's guess work.

[Anachron]

Mandatory widespread testing, otherwise it's guess work.

Exactly. And which country did mandatory widespread testing?

[io31]

It's far too early to know. A year from know they will have a better idea when we pour through the data. If history is our teacher, we know that initial reports and estimates way off and the media has zero incentive to downplay anything.

For miscers old enough to remember the AIDS "Epidemic", we were all convinced that we were at high risk of getting HIV, and just one encounter unprotected and boom, you got it. Looking back in hindsight, HIV is primarily a concern for male homosexuals and IV drug users. There was never an epidemic in the heterosexual community and most cases involving heterosexuals involve closeted gays who passed it to their female partners.

Dude did you even try looking at the numbers or just going by feel ? Here is AIDS growth over time. At its worst (1981-1983) it grew 3x in two years that is 0.15% / day of growth. Corona is tracking 30% / day in the west at the moment.

[CaliSuperSport]

Mandatory widespread testing, otherwise it's guess work.

Oddly enough, an MMA youtuber was the one to inform me that Korea is testing somewhere around 10,000-14,000 people per day. The US has less than that total.

[dabbmw2002]

Dude did you even try looking at the numbers or just going by feel ? Here is AIDS growth over time. At its worst (1981-1983) it grew 3x in two years that is 0.15% / day of growth. Corona is tracking 30% / day in the west at the moment.

An epidemic, in the gay community.

[Anachron]

Oddly enough, an MMA youtuber was the one to inform me that Korea is testing somewhere around 10,000-14,000 people per day. The US has less than that total.

It would be interesting to know how many people they tested to find the current number of cases.

[Kane_89]

[BraneyGumble]

It would be interesting to know how many people they tested to find the current number of cases.

They logged 248,000 tests for SK as of 13th March, so probably around 260,000 right now.


https://ourworldindata.org/covid-testing

[io31]

An epidemic, in the gay community.

What the hell does that have to do with anything ? AIDS spreads slow enough that people had time to adjust their behavior and medical community had enough time to come up with treatments. Based on the current data corona is spreading over two orders of magnitude faster.

[dabbmw2002]

What the hell does that have to do with anything ? AIDS spreads slow enough that people had time to adjust their behavior and medical community had enough time to come up with treatments. Based on the current data corona is spreading over two orders of magnitude faster.

I wasn't comparing the two diseases, I was highlighting similarities in the media freakout which in the case of AIDS was overblown. We will find out in a few weeks what this Coronavirus will be.

[Anachron]

They logged 248,000 tests for SK as of 13th March, so probably around 260,000 right now.


https://ourworldindata.org/covid-testing

Nice!

Hats off to the South Koreans... if that is true, we have our real mortality rate.

Their numbers of confirmed Covid19 cases include asymptomatic ones.

All the other numbers include only people who's symptoms have been severe enough to get tested.

[dabbmw2002]

As the novel coronavirus continues to claim lives in the United States, experts are investigating what factors increase some people’s risk of dying from the virus.
So far, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have not released a summary of basic demographic information about the people who have died, but according to information collected by ABC News' Medical Unit, the majority of deaths have been among people in the 70s, 80s and 90s.

The data in the U.S. is similar to Italy, which has been particularly hard-hit by the coronavirus, found the average age among the 105 patients who died from the virus as of March 4 was 81 years old. It also roughly matches data from China, which found that the risk of death increases with age.

In the U.S., of the cases for which there is data, only one person who died was in their 40s, while two people died in their 50s. Seven people were in their 60s, nine people in their 70s, 13 people in their 80s and 10 people were in their 90s.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wh...cid=spartanntp

[io31]

I wasn't comparing the two diseases, I was highlighting similarities in the media freakout which in the case of AIDS was overblown. We will find out in a few weeks what this Coronavirus will be.

Look at the number of cases in the west. Look at the number of deaths in Italy. They both track 30% / day. In a four weeks you may already be overwhelmed unless the case growth rate drops through voluntary measures or mandatory ones.

[VegasLifter26]

South Korea has tons of faulty tests. Thats why they have so many false positives. We could easily be testing that many people however we dont want to treat people who dont have the virus. Our tests are 100% accurate now. I have family who works in the medical industry

[Underwrought]

OP and all these Trump NPCs are stupid as fuk. Don't self quarantine, don't stop going to social events and see how long you last.

[TreyTrey]

This will kill over a million worldwide before its done. Believe dat.

[Brandon556211]

Subtract the nursing home deaths in Washington and from a statistical standpoint, you have a zero percent chance of dieing from it in the US. Take away the 50 and older and you also have a 0% chance globally from dieing from it.

Everyone sick and alone in nursing homes rejoicing for the Corona virus along with my social security savings

In a vacuum yes youre probably right. But there are still people at any age that need ICU treatment, oxygen, etc. If too many get it at once theres not enough hospital space. How is this so hard for people to understand?

[dabbmw2002]

South Korea has tons of faulty tests. Thats why they have so many false positives. We could easily be testing that many people however we dont want to treat people who dont have the virus. Our tests are 100% accurate now. I have family who works in the medical industry

Had a gay coworker years ago who got a false positive on his HIV test. That was an interesting conversation to eaves drop on

OP and all these Trump NPCs are stupid as fuk. Don't self quarantine, don't stop going to social events and see how long you last.

On St Patties day nothing will keep me in. More of us will dies from alcohol poisoning and drunk drive accidents than the Coronavirus.

[GreatOldOne]

We're actually trying to stop coronavirus.

[freshnevafrozen]

In to neg OP's bald headed ass in one month time when Corona wipes out civilization