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    -6'1 250
    -deadlifts around 800lbs.
    -his one-handed dealift world record will turn 100 years old this year
    -loses some points in aestetics for Hitler stache though



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    Originally Posted by SeymourGains View Post
    if anyone gets posted that looks impressive people will say not natty, these threads are pointless

    If people were honest it wouldn't be a discussion.

    For example I'm Natty.
    I call my cawk Baby Yoda. Cause the whole world loves it.

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    Originally Posted by I3igAl View Post
    -6'1 250
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    -his one-handed dealift world record will turn 100 years old this year
    -loses some points in aestetics for Hitler stache though

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    727lb deadlift with one hand? I want to believe. And this is before dat dere?

    Seen Larry wheels struggle with 675 and he's on the caprisun and is one of the strongest men to ever live.


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    Originally Posted by whtcoupe View Post
    Why do people cope with their bad gym results by hating on dudes that have physics that are easily obtainable natty. Those guys are not huge they are just ripped. Urine idiot if you think it takes gear to get 15" arms and be ripped. Sure gear makes it easier but its not mandatory.

    It might not make it mandatory but it sure makes it attainable for every single person.

    Point is all non natty lifts and physiques are invalid.
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    Originally Posted by iwannagethench View Post
    I'm sceptical but I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt, this was him at 14

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    I remember a bunch of kids balding in school around 15/16 dead srs. And none lifted
    I've known 15 y/o who've been on OJ. One guy I went to school with hit a growth spurt from 5'5" to 6'3" when he was 16 and told us years later that his dad gave him and his brother HGH and test to help them with sports and that's when he hit his growth spurt. He and his father are both pharmacists and there would be no reason for him to lie about this. He and his brother weren't even JC level athletes so it wasn't about money it was just trying to give them an edge.
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    I've known 15 y/o who've been on OJ. One guy I went to school with hit a growth spurt from 5'5" to 6'3" when he was 16 and told us years later that his dad gave him and his brother HGH and test to help them with sports and that's when he hit his growth spurt. He and his father are both pharmacists and there would be no reason for him to lie about this. He and his brother weren't even JC level athletes so it wasn't about money it was just trying to give them an edge.
    Not disputing it doesn't happen, kid seems very driven though and intelligent, knows what he's talking about. I take that into consideration. Honestly, I can't say but as I said I'm just willing to give the benefit of the doubt. I can't prove anyone is natural





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    Originally Posted by 04akhriz40 View Post
    Yeah, but if it was really that cost. Everyone would do it lol.

    It's super cheap and miraculous. Almost all of the physiques that you see and admire are using. Frauds have ya'll confused. The problem is that once you tech, you might be stuck doing it for life. Some people don't rebound from fish oil supplements.
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    Originally Posted by iwannagethench View Post
    This guy is winning. Mirin everything
    Indeed. I found him through his brother who is a youtuber (now) but used to be a Miscer back in the day. The guy has <3k followers on IG and just grinds at work and in the gym for no recognition, just because that's the lifestyle he chose to embrace. He's been jacked for years.
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    Originally Posted by BredRoller View Post
    Indeed. I found him through his brother who is a youtuber (now) but used to be a Miscer back in the day. The guy has <3k followers on IG and just grinds at work and in the gym for no recognition, just because that's the lifestyle he chose to embrace. He's been jacked for years.
    He's a bit try hard and way too much of a poser but I'm mirin still. Surprised he doesn't have more of a following, reminds me a lot of Mike Thurston

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    Originally Posted by IvanNorge View Post
    For me probably - Dr. Eric Helms , Dr. Layne Norton and Alberto Nunez and the guys in general from 3dmuscje etc.
    Lol none of those guys are natty.

    Eric Helms has admitted to using jooce in the past. Layne Norton has held records in powerlifting and has competed in bodybuilding not to mention has been on record lying about BCAAs and Blaha of all people exposed hmmm. Physique wise probably not even natty. Alberto, don't think a guy who gets down to 5% BF extremely shredded who is still relatively big is natty either.

    jooce and all these men's magazines since the 70s I think has warped our perception of what is natty and what isn't. dat dere didn't start to get widespread in the americas until the late 50's and early 60's. To be mostly safe you would have to look at physiques before the 50s but there's still a small chance they might have been on some T derivative. so I think before the 37-38' you can be absolutely certain unless there's some secret chit nobody has ever heard of.

    To me the pinnacle of natty is probably John Grimek, he competed in the 30s and 40s. He was 5'8.5, 208 lbs and maybe around 12% BF. This sounds about right if you have amazing genetics for a natty.





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    Originally Posted by BredRoller View Post
    Indeed. I found him through his brother who is a youtuber (now) but used to be a Miscer back in the day. The guy has <3k followers on IG and just grinds at work and in the gym for no recognition, just because that's the lifestyle he chose to embrace. He's been jacked for years.
    If that was true he wouldn't have an insta account showing how much he doesn't want to be recognized lmao.
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    Originally Posted by iwannagethench View Post
    He's a bit try hard and way too much of a poser but I'm mirin still. Surprised he doesn't have more of a following, reminds me a lot of Mike Thurston

    https://instagram.com/mikethurston?igshid=1ke1ycesx8iw0
    Yeah surprising. Nice yeah I can see the comparison.

    Originally Posted by jizzfarmer View Post
    If that was true he wouldn't have an insta account showing how much he doesn't want to be recognized lmao.
    Lmao, yeah realized that after I posted, fair enough.

    Most people who never grow a following quit very soon after. Maybe that's where my brain was going? Who knows.
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    Not disputing it doesn't happen, kid seems very driven though and intelligent, knows what he's talking about. I take that into consideration. Honestly, I can't say but as I said I'm just willing to give the benefit of the doubt. I can't prove anyone is natural
    You dont achieve a physique like that kid's without being driven and somewhat intelligent, roids or not. Please just use your common sense for a second and you will see how obvious it is.

    90% of people that are actually juicing dont even look as good as that 16 y/o kid, 100% srs.
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    Originally Posted by Ken-O View Post
    You dont achieve a physique like that kid's without being driven and somewhat intelligent, roids or not. Please just use your common sense for a second and you will see how obvious it is.

    90% of people that are actually juicing dont even look as good as that 16 y/o kid, 100% srs.
    160lbs at 5'8 is acheivable. He's very lean and probably looks bigger

    There's more content on his IG for to you assess

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    how is there no pics of rich piana easyly the greatest natty the world has ever known
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    This thread is half natty
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    Not sure what he looks like now, but Scott Herman had a belivable natty physique.

    You can get a decent lean physique natty, but big(by misc standard)+lean is rare unless you have good genetics or BBC.
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    I've known 15 y/o who've been on OJ. One guy I went to school with hit a growth spurt from 5'5" to 6'3" when he was 16 and told us years later that his dad gave him and his brother HGH and test to help them with sports and that's when he hit his growth spurt. He and his father are both pharmacists and there would be no reason for him to lie about this. He and his brother weren't even JC level athletes so it wasn't about money it was just trying to give them an edge.
    lucky motherfuker, how many parents actually know about the benefits of dat dere and hgh on kids during their puberty? less than 1% im willing to bet.
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    Originally Posted by Ken-O View Post
    You dont achieve a physique like that kid's without being driven and somewhat intelligent, roids or not. Please just use your common sense for a second and you will see how obvious it is.

    90% of people that are actually juicing dont even look as good as that 16 y/o kid, 100% srs.
    Juice is an automatic 400lb bench and 12% year round no problem.
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    Originally Posted by ThisIsMyAlias View Post


    LOL

    If all these fake natties would just be honest maybe there wouldn't be such a backwards and uninformed concept of juicing.
    dude is not even big...he's just shredded...

    he said he doesn't drink or eat cheat meals...
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    Originally Posted by GODself View Post


    100% natty.

    But... he was small. (around 16'' arms)
    looks natty
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    Originally Posted by leoslayer1 View Post
    It might not make it mandatory but it sure makes it attainable for every single person.

    Point is all non natty lifts and physiques are invalid.
    do you not realize that many non nattys reached the peak of their natural physique, say 6ft 240 lean, BEFORE they became not natty only so they could then surpass those limits imposed only by genetics and biology, and do MORE work and harder dieting than non nattys can without overtraining?
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    Originally Posted by iwannagethench View Post
    I like this kids Physique a lot

    not natty
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