My daughter and my pitbull

[TBO1313]

No hate to pits, or dogs in general. But having been recently attacked by a dog, dogs in general can cause very severe injuries to even grown adults let alone a child. Dog bites are crush injuries, underlying damage is almost always more severe than any visible lacerations. Crush injuries also take significantly longer to heal.

Would be awfully irresponsible to leave a child alone with a dog. Any interactions between the two should be supervised. Your child can’t do much damage to your dog, your dog could kill your child.

I used to read meters when I was in college. I woman I worked with was in a backyard she had been in a bunch of times that had a pit chained up back there. This one day the pit broke the chain and mauled her. She had to get hundreds of stitches and one of her breasts was removed by the dog. The owner afterwards said that the dog had never showed any signs of aggression before. Please don't leave small children near them. Chances are they won't bite but its not worth the risk

[jakedel]

Dont try and reason with the pitbull crowd.

[BROPOTOMAS]

Pitbull owners.... why did you choose a pit? This question gets asked alot, but I never see any answers.

Pls respond.

Every dog I have ever owned, and will ever own, has been a rescue. I don't go in looking for a certain type/ breed/ color, I'm looking for a connection. In the case of my pit, she walked right up to the cage door and sat down and just smiled at me. I took her to the shelter's social area and just felt an instant connection.

[BlackJack619]

Pitbull owners.... why did you choose a pit? This question gets asked alot, but I never see any answers.

Pls respond.

I got my dog from a pitbull rescue my old boss use to run, it's kinda sad how pitbulls are treated and I don't know the statistic but I think they are one of the breeds that get put down the most, they are also one of the only breads that are banned in certain city's. There's a lot of places that won't let you live their if you have a pitbull. I honestly believe my dog will have the best life possible living with me... He is also a great partner for cardio.

[Retoaded]

You're absolutely not wrong that a large dog will phuck you up way worse. Does that mean that you're more likely to be attacked by one?

Maybe we should ban large vehicles, because if you get hit by a large vehicle you have a higher chance of injury or death. Everyone who owns a big truck is just trying to look tough...right?

Someone link the dachshund story if they have it, I've gotta see that.

https://people.com/pets/expert-advic...g-dog-attacks/

http://time.com/5280769/dog-attack-d...klahoma-death/

mixed breeds...the first story I read when it happened just said dachsunds.

[HouseOfISRAEL]

inb4

" he wuz a good boy"

inb4 race correlation to response

[ForumNature]

Not sure what your argument is here. Hospital inpatient animal attack records will show, from eyewitness accounts: Dog type: Pitbull or Pitbull mix etc. If it has pitbull genetics in it, even if a mix, it will obviously be more aggressive, and more prone to attacking and killing humans. What exactly is your argument here?

I'm curious as to what your argument is here as well. You keep saying that if he goes to a hospital and checks the records(as if some random person can go to any medical facility and demand this info, lol)it will prove your point. You still haven't provided any data. Do you work at a hospital and can provide some actual data or will you just continue to use "pretty sure" as a factual statement?

[ForumNature]

Dont try and reason with the pitbull crowd.

Don't try and reason with emotion based judgement and fear mongering.

[wrastler163]

You're right, a chihuahua weighs 5lbs and can't do the damage that any 60+lb dog can do. Most dogs that size could wreck any grown man and have the bite force to crush bone.

However, that in no way means you're more likely to be attacked. Just looking at fatalities doesn't tell the whole story. If you got T-boned by a Geo Metro, you're likely to escape with far less damage than if you got T-boned by an F350, but it doesn't mean you're more likely to get hit by one or the other.

You’re comparing a chihuahua bite to getting T-boned by a geometro? How bout a motorcycle tapping your bumper at a ref light

[AquilaConfido]

I'm curious as to what your argument is here as well. You keep saying that if he goes to a hospital and checks the records(as if some random person can go to any medical facility and demand this info, lol)it will prove your point. You still haven't provided any data. Do you work at a hospital and can provide some actual data or will you just continue to use "pretty sure" as a factual statement?

The data is in the hospital logs. That is entirely my point.

[ForumNature]

https://people.com/pets/expert-advic...g-dog-attacks/

http://time.com/5280769/dog-attack-d...klahoma-death/

mixed breeds...the first story I read when it happened just said dachsunds.

Wow....I'm actually surprised this was in the US. I would expect this in some other countries where it's not uncommon for packs of feral dogs to be roaming around.

[TXBuddy]

Pitbull owners.... why did you choose a pit? This question gets asked alot, but I never see any answers.

Pls respond.

I wanted a dog that had a high pain threshold (because kids are around), Loyal, athletic, sensitive to leadership. These unfortunately are also the same reasons azzholes fought them.



had to put down the old doge last month.

This was him when he was younger




And the younger Pit/Lab mix, Chip

[ForumNature]

The data is in the hospital logs. That is entirely my point.

Which log are you referring to? Why don't you post some data for us then? You're making the claim, so back it up. You're argument is the equivalent of "Because I said so".

[BlackJack619]

I thought pitbulls were for people who can't legally own firearms.

Cool stereotype

[Zackad]

Not sure what your argument is here. Hospital inpatient animal attack records will show, from eyewitness accounts: Dog type: Pitbull or Pitbull mix etc. If it has pitbull genetics in it, even if a mix, it will obviously be more aggressive, and more prone to attacking and killing humans. What exactly is your argument here?

My point was that eyewitness accounts aren't reliable. Unless you know how they're getting this info or have access to any of it yourself, your claim that they are the top dog in attacks doesn't mean much, particularly if the dogs are reported to be misidentified regularly. https://www.dogexpert.com/problems-w...dentification/

Lots of people cannot properly identify any of the pitbull breeds

[Retoaded]

Wow....I'm actually surprised this was in the US. I would expect this in some other countries where it's not uncommon for packs of feral dogs to be roaming around.

I live in SC and in towns the size of that town in OK (20,000 people) you can see it from time to time. Not usually 7 or 8 dogs...usually 2 or 3. We still have coyotes too.

[AquilaConfido]

Which log are you referring to? Why don't you post some data for us then? You're making the claim, so back it up. You're argument is the equivalent of "Because I said so".

My point was that eyewitness accounts aren't reliable. Unless you know how they're getting this info or have access to any of it yourself, your claim that they are the top dog in attacks doesn't mean much if the dogs are reported to be misidentified regularly. https://www.dogexpert.com/problems-w...dentification/

Lots of people cannot properly identify one of the 4 pitbull breeds

You guys are clearly part of the pitbull crew, and one is a forum admin, so yeah, I'm done arguing here.

I would bet money (srs), that if you did what I said, check the inpatient logs of all US hospitals / morgues, the highest dog fatalities attacks would come from pitbull and pitbull mixes.

Anyway I'm done here.

[ForumNature]

You’re comparing a chihuahua bite to getting T-boned by a geometro? How bout a motorcycle tapping your bumper at a ref light

You've clearly missed the point.

The point is, just because something is stronger, larger, etc, doesn't mean you're more likely to be involved in an incident.

That clear enough for you?

[ForumNature]

You guys are clearly part of the pitbull crew, and one is a forum admin, so yeah, I'm done arguing here.

I would bet money (srs), that if you did what I said, check the inpatient logs of all US hospitals, the highest dog fatalities attacks would come from pitbull and pitbull mixes.

Anyway I'm done here.

Translation: "People called me out for presenting my statements as factual while not providing any data. I can't provide any so I'm just going to back out with an insult."

Gotcha.

[Zackad]

You guys are clearly part of the pitbull crew, and one is a forum admin, so yeah, I'm done arguing here.

I would bet money (srs), that if you did what I said, check the inpatient logs of all US hospitals, the highest dog fatalities attacks would come from pitbull and pitbull mixes.

Anyway I'm done here.

Lmao there's no "pitbull crew" on misc.

How are we supposed to check it exactly? P sure inpatient logs are not just handed out to any stranger or even any family member. And why do you keep ignoring the fact that eyewitness counts are not reliable?

No one is going to neg you again. I'm already on R/C, and as long as you can continue to discuss civilly, so will we. And if we can have a legitimate conversation without insults, I'll even go so far as to remember to rep you next time to offset the neg if you're that worried about it

Also would love some proof on the claim that any trace of pitbull genetics means a dog is instantly more likely to attack.

[AWillis]

[AquilaConfido]

Translation: "People called me out for presenting my statements as factual while not providing any data. I can't provide any so I'm just going to back out with an insult."

Gotcha.

It's easy to take the high horse when you're a forum admin.

My point still stands, go check the logs and I am pretty sure I'm right.

Gotcha.

[LivingyourLife]

The data is in the hospital logs. That is entirely my point.

If you go to a local hospital its very unlikely they'd have records of any pitbull attacks. There is actually very few occurrences and hospitals don't aggregate information from each other. You really think among the thousands of hospitals they're gonna have records of any of the maybe 300 attacks? There might be data in hospital logs scattered around the world, but there's no proof of that. You only hear about these attacks because these stories get views.

Lets assume your graph indicating 284 pitbull bites happened. Compare that to the estimated 29 people who die daily in the US (an actually tracked statistic by the NHTSA). Maybe we should just make alcohol and Pits illegal and solve all our problems. There is a certain threshold to safety risks in which it is not worth worrying about. If 284 people were killed by different Pitbulls then thats 0.00007% of all Pits in the United States. There are more deaths every year from things that people do everyday that are not a necessity to life, but make them happy than there are from Pits. You guys out on a crusade against Pits should put your energy else where. Though I am in favor of making people actually pass tests before they're allowed to own potentially dangerous dogs.

[ForumNature]

It's easy to take the high horse when you're a forum admin.

Gotcha.

What does me being an admin have to do with you not backing up your claims? Did I in any way threaten to ban or neg you for disagreeing with me? I'm not on a "high horse" in any way. I simply asked if you could back up your claim with data, which you've continued to side-step. Any other excuses?

[t8rtot]

My point still stands, go check the logs and I am pretty sure I'm right.

Why are you putting the onerous on someone else to provide the data to back up YOUR claim?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[AquilaConfido]

What does me being an admin have to do with you not backing up your claims? Did I in any way threaten to ban or neg you for disagreeing with me? I'm not on a "high horse" in any way. I simply asked if you could back up your claim with data, which you've continued to side-step. Any other excuses?

Bro I have been banned numerous times for supposedly 'arguing' with mods in threads and banned for unbelievably petty reasons which I will not list here, so I am not gonna play this game.

Good luck.

[ForumNature]

Bro I have been banned numerous times for supposedly 'arguing' with mods in threads and banned for unbelievably petty reasons which I will not list here, so I am not gonna play this game.

Good luck.

Yeah well, I'm the admin and I have the final say on bans. I'm ASKING you to provide an argument and I don't use my admin powers to enforce my personal beliefs.


Still waiting on you to back that claim up

[Zackad]

Bro I have been banned numerous times for supposedly 'arguing' with mods in threads and banned for unbelievably petty reasons which I will not list here, so I am not gonna play this game.

Good luck.

And i just fade into the black apparently

he's not the only one responding to you ITT. but deflect all you want.

[ForumNature]

Why are you putting the onerous on someone else to provide the data to back up YOUR claim?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Because he doesn't have any data to back his claims.

[AquilaConfido]

Yeah well, I'm the admin and I have the final say on bans. I'm ASKING you to provide an argument and I don't use my admin powers to enforce my personal beliefs.


Still waiting on you to back that claim up

What's your email address serious? Can you PM it to me, there is a mod who absolutely hates me who has banned me last 3 times in a row for absolutely ridiculous reasons, and I wasn't able to contact any admin about it. Any chance you could e-mail me yours in a private message, in case it happens again?

Thanks.