Link to papa video where he talks about withdrawing his plea.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ler-plea-deal/
If this guy truly did something wrong, he would shut his mouth and take his 2 weeks in jail.
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10-28-2018, 04:52 AM #3151
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10-28-2018, 06:36 AM #3152
Here is concords lawyers response to the special counsel. Literally just toying with mueller because they know they are in the clear.
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-co...t-Motion-1.pdf
Mueller made the mistake of inducting companies for show thinking none would actually show up in court. They did, mueller delayed, and now this**** show.
For good measure, they charged individual people that they KNOW will never show. Now they have their rooskies!
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10-28-2018, 06:43 AM #3153
It’s sadly very true. Right here we have multiple threads saying the MAGA bomber is a democratic plant because it makes Trump look bad right before the election, while the migrate group heading towards the US is also liberal scheme - but it makes Trump look great - because, don’t ya’ know, those stupid liberals can’t shooting themsleves in the foot!
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10-28-2018, 06:49 AM #3154
It’s pretty amazing you think you understand a hugely complex investigation led by a man with -incredible creditials- better than him as his team ... while standing outside of it. I’m a lawyer. I know people who have worked with Mueller. I’ve talked to people that do this stuff. I would feel completely embarrassed making sweeping generalizations about how he’s conducting the investigation so far.
You, naaaa, you know so much better.
That tells me a lot about you.
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10-28-2018, 07:10 AM #3155
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10-28-2018, 07:20 AM #3156
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10-28-2018, 07:21 AM #3157
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CTH reports some facts, yes. Then they take those facts and make up their own conclusions as to what said facts mean. They use fallacious arguments such as "Everyone knows ....". And you buy it, hook line and sinker. I know no one except for you who takes CTH any more seriously than they take InfoWars. CTH is as biased as the MSM you so often call out.
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10-28-2018, 07:27 AM #3158
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10-28-2018, 07:33 AM #3159
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10-28-2018, 07:35 AM #3160
On this page alone I’ve posted court documents and interviews backing a few points.
This whole thread is me discussing facts, details, actual documents. Then a bunch of lefties just shouting “conspiracy theory!! None of this is true!!! Nothing to see here!!!” As you bury your head in the sand.
If anyone wants to discuss said conspiracy theory, which is actually an ongoing investigation by the IG, Huber, house intel committee, with a grand jury empaneled... I’m game. Pointing fingers snd name calling us a waste of my time.
It’s not like we don’t have plenty to support it. We have the strzok page texts, the ohr Steele texts. We have conspirators pleading the fifth. We have 10+ alleged conspirators from the fbi fires or suddenly resigned. We have almost weekly testimony and drops.
This isn’t some tin foil thing without any real world ongoing evidence to support and justify it.
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10-28-2018, 07:53 AM #3161
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10-28-2018, 08:10 AM #3162
Lold. The only one trolling in this thread is you. Pick a single point to argue. I said to understand the plot you need to start with Rogers of the nsa identifying and shutting down fbi access to the fisa search query database, where 85% of searches were illegal. I provided the document indicating as much by Rogers and a fisa judge.
Is that fake? Since EVERYTHING I said is fake, right?
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10-28-2018, 08:19 AM #3163Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."
z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"
Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."
z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?
Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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10-28-2018, 08:28 AM #3164
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10-28-2018, 08:34 AM #3165Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."
z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"
Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."
z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?
Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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10-28-2018, 08:41 AM #3166
So you read cnn and MSM articles with anonymous sources and people familiar with the matter, but won’t read CTH when they literally provide the texts and court documents they draw their conclusions from? Makes sense.
I figured you’d like CTH. He says Q is fake and that the hope for sweeping changes to or corrupt institutions that Q says will happen is false. CTH is as pessimistic about anyone getting justice over spygate as any, despite the evidence.
There are plenty of other sources to draw from. Dan Bongino lays it out nicely in his podcasts. Sara carter and John Solomon clearly have inside intel and their reporting is stellar and sourced. Or try members of the house intel committee who have basically told us portions of what has come out in their closed testimony... and the libs on the committee aren’t even trying to refute it any more.
Me being here is a waste of time. I come to debate facts, and I get “you are a conspiracy theorist and everything you say is wrong!” When I post actual documents proving me right, I get “I don’t like your sources so any analysis they do is wrong! ... even if they provide me the actual documents to firm my own conclusions!!!”
It’s like arguing with my 2 year old. I get it, you know you can’t argue facts so you nitpick anything else.
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10-28-2018, 08:45 AM #3167
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10-28-2018, 08:56 AM #3168
I would be disappointed.
Let me ask you a question— despite all that we have learn about spygate and the actions that took place around the election, the firings of all of the top brass of the fbi, the page strzok texts and the ohr Steele texts, the testimony that we already know, the fact that we have ongoing investigations into it... are you 100% certain it didn’t happen? That everyone acted legally and by the book?
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10-28-2018, 09:03 AM #3169
I’m already disappointed by the first IG report on the fbi handling of the Clinton email scandal.
We learned that comey lied to us when he said that metadata magic allowed the fbi to investigate all of the new 360k emails from the weiner laptop due to a huge team working around the clock. The report confirms both fbi and cia IT said metadata was unreliable in this case and couldn’t be used. Through texts we learned that a group of only 3 people led by strzok (fired for corruption) spent 12 hours reviewing only 3k hand selected emails.
We learned strzok was briefed about China having hacked all of Clinton emails and he did nothing about it. He said he didn’t remember...
Details like that are in the report... but the report concluded no bias? Completely a joke to anyone who read the facts. Those are BOMBSHELLS and are just left unresolved.
We also learned from texts that seiners emails weren’t incidentally discovered... they were handed over by his lawyer... probably in move to lighten his own sentence by exposing real crimes.
How do you rationalize that?
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10-28-2018, 09:13 AM #3171
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I would never claim that everyone acted 100% by the book. So, no I’m not 100% certain that everyone is innocent. But there’s a huge chasm between accepting that there might have been some wrong doing and hoping that this “spygate” turns out to be a huge scandal.
You seem to want this to be as huge, if not huger, than some on the left want Trumps alleged Russian collusion to be. You seem so very desperate, just as desperate, as some of the anti-Trumpers who desperately want Mueller to sink Trump.747 Driver
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10-28-2018, 09:22 AM #3172
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10-28-2018, 09:28 AM #3173
Not desperate at all. But I have followed it from the start, which has been almost a year. I’ve followed every drop and every detail. I watch people outline the people involved, and months later see those people actually sit in the hot seat. I’ve watch countless get fired or resign from the fbi, doj. I watched the libs who were former IC heads say that no spying occurred, then that it occurred by legal. They denied foreign spies were involved, then said yes, confidential informants were involved. I watched rice say I didn’t unmask anyone, then days later admit she did but it was all legal. I watched people like holder announce on twitter right after the election that the intelligence was going to come under fire and got them to hold strong... and they did.
I find the story fascinating, I find the posturing by the former IC heads laughable, I find NSM coverage of it nonexistent because they were involved. They reported on stories they were given by the fbi, and the fbi used those media reports to bolster the fisa application, bring in carter Page for an interview, etc. the media has had the unredacted fisa for months (senate staffer Wolfe leaked to Ali Watkins) and they continue to report bs antitrump narrative.
I won’t be heartbroken, but I’ve followed long enough to want to see it through. I think few people know the details so I like to discuss and educate others on a politics forum... is that so wrong?Last edited by rampagefc77; 10-28-2018 at 09:37 AM.
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10-28-2018, 09:46 AM #3174
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10-28-2018, 09:51 AM #3175
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10-28-2018, 01:04 PM #3176
Do you believe the NYT article about Trump committing all kinds of tax fraud? They spent years gathering all the evidence and documents (that's right, documents). https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...red-trump.html
It's not like CTH has any documents MSM doesn't have. If mainstream media doesn't pick it up, it's likely because it's bull****.
When the **** hits the fan, you guys are linking MSM; when they are "think pieces" about various theories, you guys are linking CTH, GWP, etc.
There is no news outlet that doesn't use anonymous sources. The reason is a source doesn't want to out him or herself due to conflicts with their job or safety.
Don't expect a news outlet to not run a story when a source like James Comey drops the dime but doesn't want to be fingered in a story.
Notice when he outed himself as the leaker, Trump named him Leakin' James Comey instead of Lyin' James Comey. That's a pretty solid piece of evidence that Comey's leaks were leaks and not lies - straight from Trump's own mouth without him realizing it.
In short, I believe MSM's anonymous sources more than CTH or some YouTube news source due to vetting. That doesn't mean I believe everything MSM says, like Bullitt and others seem to think.
As for Q, them being skeptical about Q doesn't mean I'm going to believe all the other bull**** they post about. Da fuk you talkin' about?Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."
z4: "So when are you available in September to play?"
Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."
z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?
Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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