Very true,....but that guy obviously has more advantages than just supps. Genetics trump all. I see tons of guys daily and was surprised at just how prevalent those things are in larger gyms. (recently started working out at a very big gym). Many of these guys are in their 20's and 30's and honestly they dont look that great. Some have told me what their supplement program is and I was blown away. (because they dont look very good at all and you can just barely tell they lift).
So....the more and more I am around this, the more I come to believe genes trump all. I have seen enough guys and from personal experience know there is no magic pill. (in my book) Sorry....but I am not buying it.
As for that 70yo guy. I think you could give 100 guys exactly what he takes and only a very few would look like him. Just like 100 guys could take MrO's supp regimen and I guarantee that not a single one of them will even come close to looking like him. Genes determine response to stuff like that as well.
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10-25-2015, 08:47 AM #61RAW lifts
635 Dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mATRBZ0gwdg
585x7 Dead reps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yf2ZkdNNNQ
420 Bench (paused) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2_Q-TLIB8
535 Squat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdgVaiTi4-8&feature=youtu.be
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10-26-2015, 04:26 AM #62
Well I have a 46 year old friend who has a better 6 pack than I do at 26 so yeah it is possible. But he's the exception not the rule and getting a six pack at that age is very hard I think since testosterone levels will be quite lower by then. Still nothing is impossible if you work hard enough, so good luck.
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10-27-2015, 09:32 PM #65
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I think that is so true. And it's very rare that someone with great muscle-building genes like ID actually comes out and admits that. You can give me all kinds of "stuff" and I'll never get big like him. And I have been busting my ass in the gym and in the kitchen for 4-1/2 years. I may not know what my full potential is, but I think this is long enough to get a pretty good idea of how my body responds. Or doesn't.
That said, I have good abs. Most people think freaky good - though that's partly due to my photography techniques. And I never set foot in a gym until I was 47-1/2. They seem to respond a lot better than say, my legs - which I have focused on since DAY 1 of lifting.
So I'd say that age is secondary. Is it harder as you get older? Probably so, but I don't have the young me for comparison!
edit: I don't really have a 6 pack. More like a 4 pack or a 4-1/2 pack. That's just my ab genetics. But my 4 pack looks better than most 6 packs, so people rarely countPeace: Lift Long and Prosper!
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10-28-2015, 05:58 PM #66
Doc.... Thanks. You inspired me to "rant" so I made a topic on it. Major props and respect. (except I dont think your physique is as deserving of all the self deprecation you throw at it )
My rant:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1400235173RAW lifts
635 Dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mATRBZ0gwdg
585x7 Dead reps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yf2ZkdNNNQ
420 Bench (paused) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2_Q-TLIB8
535 Squat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdgVaiTi4-8&feature=youtu.be
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04-22-2018, 01:13 PM #71
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I didn't start really working out until I was 39 and am almost 42 now, and I did it...
https://imgur.com/BYMDMR0
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04-23-2018, 11:45 AM #76
Disagree. Member of no crunches or direct ab work crew.
Deadlifts, standing ohp, bent rows do plenty to "build" abs. Remove body fat....and you see em..... I have wonederd what my abs might look like with direct training. But I am kind of a creature of habit. I have made it this far without doing it.....dont see me adding them in anytime soon......
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Looked at the phone and realized that was an older pic. Here is a newer on within last year
RAW lifts
635 Dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mATRBZ0gwdg
585x7 Dead reps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yf2ZkdNNNQ
420 Bench (paused) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2_Q-TLIB8
535 Squat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdgVaiTi4-8&feature=youtu.be
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04-29-2018, 10:01 AM #79
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Ok bud I am gonna give you a serious answer. It is all about diet. But if you do supersets for your training it will help. Look I have a spinal cord injury in a wheelchair etc. However I have a 4 pack and flat abs. you have to watch your diet, what are you eating? How much water are you drinking daily?
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