Jordan Petersons Scary IQ Statistic

[sean67]

Yes, smart people are smart. But everybody else is the work force, who are also totally necessary.

[numberguy12]

asvab

wouldn't be surprised if an iq of 83 somewhat equates to the minimum required asvab scores

perhaps somewhat equates, but he is specifically saying IQ of 83. Which would be a different concept.

[wudberry]

Instead of focusing on the man's prestige, and just viewing the above video on its own terms, it does seem to be a rather confusing argument he is making (is it even an argument?). Definitely terminology is being mixed up, as last I checked the US military does not test specifically for IQ. So I am curious what the source is regarding his 83 IQ number as a minimum.

There is no specific IQ test in the military, but certain batteries of the ASVAB are highly g-loaded. That is, they have a lot to do with IQ. And if you were to compare those ASVAB scores of candidates with their actual IQ scores, there'd be a high degree of congruence. In fact, I'm pretty sure Peterson clarifies this in that video or elsewhere.

Second, he is pretty much equating fit for service in the military with fit to function in society. Huh? Quite the jump there. There are definitely sub-83 IQ individuals out there working in society, so it's unclear what his point is.

You're making it sound like it's a quantum leap. If your IQ is so low that you can't master basic soldiering skills, then you will be incapable of doing anything else other than bagging groceries, or other noncomplex tasks. Are you unclear of the implications the simple reality of IQ distribution presents in the era of automation?

[solidus2k3]

why lift when it's all about iq

[DirtyDon123]

Instead of focusing on the man's prestige, and just viewing the above video on its own terms, it does seem to be a rather confusing argument he is making (is it even an argument?). Definitely terminology is being mixed up, as last I checked the US military does not test specifically for IQ. So I am curious what the source is regarding his 83 IQ number as a minimum. Second, he is pretty much equating fit for service in the military with fit to function in society. Huh? Quite the jump there. There are definitely sub-83 IQ individuals out there working in society, so it's unclear what his point is.

Only example I can think of is when Muhammad Ali failed his IQ test to go to Vietnam, so they have had IQ tests in the past at least.

[therealistwat]

Just my own personal belief, but an easy way to tell low IQ is how slow they move. Ever in a shopping store and some people are moving slow as ****? congrats they're stupid ogres

Most people in the self checkout lines are a cancer.

[NuggzTheNinja]

What if everyone was highly intelligent? Everyone would want to be the leader and no one would want to be the worker.

If everyone were highly intelligent, you would still expect a relatively normal (Gaussian) distribution centered around 100 because the test itself is median centered at 100. You would still have people with IQ < 83.

[CuttingFields]

Great thread, OP. Thanks!

I'm always amazed the world isn't more fuked than it is. 10-20% of the population is retarded/criminal/crazy and yet we still manage to slowly progress in terms of poverty, feeding everyone, technological advances, spreading Insta to the third world, etc.

[DrFlexologist]

My boy's way smatta

[Jibt3ch]

How do you like them apples

I'd be careful with taking anything Jordan Peterson says seriously, I know he's the flavor of the month for people that are pretty clueless about what he talks about and are impressed with his vocabulary and how charismatic he is but basically: he’s just using big words, and his observations are actually either just truisms or are provocative but empty.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/...ual-we-deserve

I'm dumb as fuk so I have zero clue if what the author is saying is true, but I read it for about 15 minutes before I realized the article was the size of a novel.

[seanb1979]

IQ is dumb.

I am from africa and i dont know how to math but I know how to kill a giraffe and make things from every part of its body. Do you?

MY dad can take apart an engine and rebuild it. Can you?

Ppl are smart at differnet things and the make a test to determine how smart you are is kinda hard IMO.

True but learning ability is the best way to determine IQ - the amount of data, along with how quickly it's processed and how well it's understood are all factors.

[Burgerbuger]

fkn lol'ed hard

even smart people need some luck. you'll get a break and then excel, breh

the only way i gauge intelligence is by assessing how a particular individual's life varies from the mean/median. for example, an intelligent person isn't going to live a heavily leveraged lifestyle where a slight blip in income wipes them out completely. they're not going to develop a gambling habit or become emotionally invested in events that are largely outside of their control (sports, politcs etc.).

Being highly intelligent does not make you immune to mans common problem.