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03-02-2018, 10:43 PM #2761
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03-03-2018, 04:12 AM #2762
My best suggestion is to find a bicycle shop in your area and begin to size yourself and roll around a bit on the bikes they have in stock. You need to see some of the characteristics that cause a bike to be more or less expensive in person. Then you will be able to find the sweet spot on what is worth paying for in your particular case. Don't rush this decision in pursuit of a deal. 2,000 miles is a lot and your choice WILL make a difference over that kind of distance.
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03-03-2018, 10:35 AM #2763
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03-03-2018, 03:35 PM #2764
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03-03-2018, 08:02 PM #2765
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so i test rode some bicycles today and i am lil confused.
- I wasnt super impressed with hybrid bikes in sub $500 range...cannondale quick 8, trek FX1 they all rode decent, reasonably lightweight and had quality frame..trek had smoother gear shifts & less vibrations on handlebar. Cannondale was more comfy seating & riding position but i could not imagine doing good speed on either of them. I also did not felt reassured with the rim brakes....they just lack the bite of disc brakes and their gears felt poor quality...not reassuring.
overall i felt like i was not satisfied with quality of their performance as a full road bike...or a full mountain bike...as they lacked suspensions for nyc bumpy roads...and gearing did not seem like it would let me cruise at higher speeds such as road bikes.
-now i am wondering if i need to ride more expensive lighter hybrid bikes or should i consider road bikes?
- what budget should i keep? i can maybe stretch to $700
- def need to look for 8 or 9 speed on rear.Last edited by Nocturnal310; 03-03-2018 at 08:32 PM.
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03-03-2018, 09:59 PM #2766
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Next time take a picture. We have to see it to know what you're saying. Bikes tend to increase in $500 increments. So you'll have to double your budget to make any significant difference. To be honest a $500 bike isn't bad but they tend to be heavy with entry level components. Buy now and upgrade in a year or so. If you're serious about riding you will outgrow it in about that time.
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03-03-2018, 10:44 PM #2767
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i m considering looking into road bike also as an alternative.
i think i will find the efficiency of distance travelled with lesser input more rewarding but my main concern is durability of modern road bikes?..can they handle small potholes & occasional gravel of nyc? the tyres were thinner than my thumb,
a decent used road bike on craigslist can be had for under $700 which retails for over $1000 brand new. but for same money i could get a better hybrid model brand new also i guess?Last edited by Nocturnal310; 03-04-2018 at 12:11 AM.
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03-04-2018, 05:31 AM #2768
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Not a problem as it and several other good hills are located near my house, but I'm not sure how much of the hill can be appreciated in a 2D photo. It is listed as one of the toughest hills in the area, and one biking club lists it as:
Doolittle Hill Rd
0.67 mi
450 ft
12.8%
Doolittle Hill Rd South of Bridgeport and Caesars casino. The switchback above the start is fear-inspiring at 18-20%. The top section eases up somewhat, but the entire hill between SR 111 and Lotticks Corner Rd still ranks as one of the toughest locally.
All figures are shown in a table without headings, but I think .67 is its total length, 450' is the change in elevation, and 12.8% is the average grade.
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03-04-2018, 06:33 AM #2769
If you're near NYC then you have lots of great shops with huge inventory nearby for you to speak to a pro and try a variety of styles. Many new road bikes feature 'wider-than-thumb' tires to absorb the harshness of imperfect asphalt surfaces.
Piermont has a wonderful shop with loads of inventory if you're willing to make the drive: https://piermontbike.com . These guys have taken good care of me in the past.
I doubt you should be worried about durability, especially on the more entry-level stuff. Higher-end becomes lighter and arguably less resilient to rough roads. A disc-brake frame will accommodate larger tires such as 28c and 32c. These are plenty plush for what you'll encounter in NYC area. I've ridden all through Manhattan and up the Hudson on my 28C tires.
Do not leap onto a Craigslist bike without being VERY sure about the size of frame you need in that particular model. DO NOT settle for a frame size outside of your ideal.
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03-04-2018, 07:02 AM #2770
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03-04-2018, 11:05 AM #2772
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03-04-2018, 11:32 AM #2773
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03-04-2018, 11:35 AM #2774
i am just over 2.5 years of mtbing. at the very minimum, i rode the weekends but overall id say i ride more than the average mtber. my local trails force you to climb if you descent and has everything in between from slow tech to rocky downhill (several well known downhill trails that people shuttle).
its incredible how much ive improved. its exciting to think about where ill be 5 years from now... (i am 27).
imo, the most underrated aspect is balance. everyone knows u gotta have good fitness, body positioning, ect. but having balance is the difference between a 1hr day to a 3-4hr day. being able to slowly crawl up big climbs conserves so much energy and allows you to ride further. i think this just comes with time in the saddle and doing climbs. but most importantly, being conscious of your body positioning.
just my 2 cents. very excited for this incoming warm weatherbe the turtle in the race.
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03-04-2018, 11:43 AM #2775
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03-04-2018, 07:49 PM #2776
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03-04-2018, 11:06 PM #2777
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Yep, 28s can handle just about anything the road can throw at them. You'll just need to adjust the pressure to tolerance. You only need consider something wider if you intend to go off roads. Equally as much so for the extra daylight starting next week.
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03-05-2018, 05:31 AM #2778
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I blew a spoke in my rear wheel on saturday. After a couple trips to the bike shop I was able to get a new one made and laced it back in. Hopefully this won't become a common theme for my back wheel; I think all those spokes are original (1991) and probably nearing the end of their life span.
Spoiler alert; you die at the end.
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03-05-2018, 09:31 AM #2779
just my opinion, not a fan of the bikes labeled by marketing terms as hybrids although the higher end ones are definitely spot on. At the lower end, they seem to be the worst of MTB's combined with the worst of road bikes.
My basic recommendation for a 'hybrid' is the class of bikes now termed "gravel bikes". They can typically handle 40c(ish) tires, have endurance geometry (a bit more relaxed) and are very stable. I'm a big fan of larger tires, but I've had so many injuries to my neck and shoulders that I'm a spoiled lil' beyotch. I'm to the point where, unless I'm racing a UCI CX race, I don't go beneath 38c
if you do go to the dark side, be prepared to enjoy yourself immensely, while at the same time giving up any semblance of extra spending money
see above comments, re: "low-end hybrids"
3 reasons to use rim brakes:
1. You're a road racer and you require the absolute lightest rotational weight possible because (you feel) those extra few grams might be the difference between winning and first loser
2. You're buying a low-end bike, i.e. from k-mart
3. You think disc brakes are ugly
this isn't to say rim brakes are bad. Just that low-end rim brakes are pure garbage. Even low-end discs like BB5s (mechanical discs) will stop you as well as even high end rim brakes
badass and hawt. Dangerous combo.
did a MTB race yesterday. 2:20+ of nothing but motherfukkin' technical climbing. Heavily rooted, twisty climbs with absolutely no opportunity to get speed at the bottom. Pure hell. About 3400 feet of climbing packed into a beastly 19-mile course. I knew something was up when the course designer said "this is the only race I'm not doing this season".
bloody hell....
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03-05-2018, 11:31 AM #2780
Not sure where you are in your groupset quandary but I rode a 2018 Giant TCR Advanced Pro all weekend with the new Ultegra 8000 gruppo and it's truly unbelievable both for the price, and that mechanical can be that good. I have Dura Ace 9100 on my Merlin and this stuff just feels better, smoother, nicer fit and finish, the whole 9 yards. I can honestly say I won't buy Dura-Ace again, at least in mechanical. It's hard to believe mechanical can be this good.
To anyone else, highly recommend the Ultegra 8000 stuff if you can get your hands on it. Coming from the most recent generation of Dura Ace, I would recommend it to anyone.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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03-05-2018, 12:22 PM #2781
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03-05-2018, 05:44 PM #2782
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Bruhs, at long last, my new shoes hath arrived!! Well, not exactly arrived, because I had to schlep them home from the post office because the post office, but they're here!!
Chit pic doesn't do them justice, so I plan to get some good shots of the bike when it's finished. I think I nailed the green/purple color combo, as the green matches the accents on my bike pretty closely and I've always been a fan of purple. You can't really tell from the pic, but the nipples are bright green to match.
Onyx really ain't playin' when they talk about their zero engagement hubs either. You give the rear wheel a flick, and it just goes. Period. No fuss, no muss, no take-up, no nothing, it just hooks up and goes. And then it just keeps spinning like fuking friction hasn't been discovered yet. And when it spins, it's dead silent. The only thing you can hear is the sound of the spokes chopping through the air. It's creepy and cool as hell at the same time. I can't wait to get these things on the bike! Build recap:
Nox Falkor 36D rims
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24x Sapim CX-Ray spokes
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03-06-2018, 07:10 AM #2783
Finally got some miles in for the first time this year. Had to dust off the mountain bike because my bike pump was having a tough time getting above 80 psi. In the process of buying a new pump - want to go the compressor route. Any suggestions?
Had a couple casual rides with the kids. Cant stop thinking about going for a long ride, but its snowing right now... Go home winter, you're drunk.
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03-06-2018, 10:33 AM #2784
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03-07-2018, 10:50 AM #2786
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hey bros..update
so i tested some more hybrid bikes and came across cannondale quick 6 which is much more expensive than base end models...and rode much much better, frame much tougher....weighed much much lighter, gear shifts much smoother and overall felt like a quality bike. i loved it. 35 tires..optimum for speed and comfort.. shimano acera on rear and altus on front.
costs $600 and considering to buy this one now.
my only confusion....that giant escape city 2 is same price but offers fenders, disc brakes and rack....wouldnt it be better to get disc brakes and fenders at same price?...they dont have test models..but wouldnt it ride much heavier also?
i am usually a minimalist but i know nyc streets are bad so fender and disc brakes will be reassuring but then i like color and feel of cannondales...pls advice
how is giant able to add so many features at lower price?
specs:
http://www.cannondale.com/USA/bike/P...b-fb3d68623051
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/escape-2-city-discLast edited by Nocturnal310; 03-07-2018 at 11:01 AM.
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03-07-2018, 10:59 AM #2787
Meh I blew spokes out on a whistler trip. Just wrapped them around other spokes kept riding. Wheel was still straight months after and I never replaced the spokes lol. Those sun ringle mtx rims were bombproof.
So pumped for more daylight so I can ride after work. Fuk I hate winter timeDodgers!
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03-07-2018, 12:02 PM #2788
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03-07-2018, 02:41 PM #2789
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Disc breaks give you all-weather consistency and reliability. My recommendation is to go with the Cannondale. Then again I'm a Cannondale owner so I'm biased.
Also, never buy a bike without riding it.
how is giant able to add so many features at lower price?
specs:
http://www.cannondale.com/USA/bike/P...b-fb3d68623051
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/escape-2-city-discLast edited by KRANE; 03-07-2018 at 05:11 PM.
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03-07-2018, 05:06 PM #2790
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