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    Post rappers are poverty tier musicians at best

    rap is fun, plain and simple, but fuking LMAO @ taking any rapper as a serious musician when they never have to:

    -dedicate tens of thousands of hours perfecting their craft
    -improvise over complex chord changes and time signatures
    -be a musical visionary


    i highly doubt nas, kendrick or eminem spent even 5 hours a day writing rap verses for years on end
    charlie parker used to practice 18 hours a day for years on end

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    Pretty much just poetry over a beat. But being able to rap like prime Nas or Jay Z does take skill compared to artists today
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    rap is dead.

    it was an interesting novelty for a couple of decades, but there is no denying it just doesn't have the staying power of other genres due to a questionable lack of actual talent needed.

    What you hear on rap stations these days is basically pop/party songs with really catchy instrumentals and a hype man chanting in the background
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    Kids in the lunch room can "rap". It takes years to be able to sing opera, learn an instrument, or have your voice be audibly pleasing. No high notes, no low notes, just talking. But wait wait sometimes they talk really fast, so that's supposed to be impressive. I can appericate some rap though but lol if someone thinks rap > classical music in skill or natural born genetics.
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    Excluding the best; sure.

    Eminem spent countless hours coming up with good rhymes and double-meanings, metaphors, etc. And then just having the natural talent to be able to rap, fast, flow good and freestyle.

    But yes, most of the other crap is complete garbage.
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    Does this sound like poverty to you?

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    Originally Posted by MetroBrah View Post
    rap is dead.

    it was an interesting novelty for a couple of decades, but there is no denying it just doesn't have the staying power of other genres due to a questionable lack of actual talent needed.

    What you hear on rap stations these days is basically pop/party songs with really catchy instrumentals and a hype man chanting in the background
    Rap is not dead.
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    Originally Posted by BuddyBoyo View Post
    i highly doubt nas, kendrick or eminem spent even 5 hours a day writing rap verses for years on end
    Too obvious. You need to be more subtle in your trolling. I leave the misc for 3 and a half years and this is what trolling has been reduced to?
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    Too obvious. You need to be more subtle in your trolling. I leave the misc for 3 and a half years and this is what trolling has been reduced to?
    you are dumb af

    half these guys were out in the trap doing sh!t with their crew
    no rapper locked themselves in their room for the duration of their teenage years and spent all day long learning to rap

    thats not how it works unless you play an instrument

    rap is about image, there are no big chinese rappers lmao
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    Originally Posted by BuddyBoyo View Post
    you are dumb af

    half these guys were out in the trap doing sh!t with their crew
    no rapper locked themselves in their room for the duration of their teenage years and spent all day long learning to rap

    thats not how it works unless you play an instrument

    rap is about image, there are no big chinese rappers lmao
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    I agree.
    The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

    That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.

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    Why don't you *******s start rap careers if it's so easy?
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    Originally Posted by sunchine View Post
    Does this sound like poverty to you?
    First time hearing this srs. This has to be some next level trolling, right? There's no way, absolutely no fukkin way this is real and someone is making money with this. If this is legit then brb chugging a gallon of lighter fluid.
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    Originally Posted by joonbee128 View Post
    Why don't you *******s start rap careers if it's so easy?
    That's stupid reasoning, it's easy in comparison to being a legit musician.

    A rapper is a lyricist/songwriter, they're not musicians.

    A musician needs an instrument, and while rappers are technically using their voice as an instrument, a singer exemplifies what it means to use your voice as an instrument.
    The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

    That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.

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    Should we be comparing jazz guitarists to folk singer-songwriters? Because that's kind of what you're trying to do. Rap has never really been about crazy technical chops. Directness, storytelling ability, "flow" are valued. You wanna trash bob dylan for not having a wide vocal range while you're at it?
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    Originally Posted by UnderwearBandit View Post
    First time hearing this srs. This has to be some next level trolling, right? There's no way, absolutely no fukkin way this is real and someone is making money with this. If this is legit then brb chugging a gallon of lighter fluid.
    It's pretty much music for clubs, imo. They flood the radio with this **** and you get people listening to it outside of the club as well. Terrible, popular music has been a problem; it didn't start with mumble rappers of today. Some people will look at that video and instead of thinking "Wow, there are some **** rappers out there" they think "Wow, all rappers are terrible. Rap is a lost art form."

    Originally Posted by BuddyBoyo View Post
    you are dumb af

    half these guys were out in the trap doing sh!t with their crew
    no rapper locked themselves in their room for the duration of their teenage years and spent all day long learning to rap

    thats not how it works unless you play an instrument

    rap is about image, there are no big chinese rappers lmao
    Bro, you're so over the top with your troll attempts that it's not coming across as believable. You need to tone it down, I'm telling you. It'll really elevate your game and you'll start seeing the results you never thought you would. Trolling is supposed to be subtle.
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    its a different skillset

    Can Charlie Parker freestyle rap? Can 99% of people do it? The answer is no. The statistics have proven you wrong. Good try
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    Originally Posted by nnl View Post
    Should we be comparing jazz guitarists to folk singer-songwriters? Because that's kind of what you're trying to do. Rap has never really been about crazy technical chops. Directness, storytelling ability, "flow" are valued. You wanna trash bob dylan for not having a wide vocal range while you're at it?
    He was playing a guitar up there though.

    Hell how come rappers can't even say their whole song, take breaks like every bar, 10 hype men, etc?
    The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

    That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.

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    Y'all must be fun at parties.

    Oh my god is that rap music I hear? My word how can you guys enjoy this?!! The musical abilities required to perform such a piece are elementary at best. And the lyrics my my sophomoric and quite vulgar; Wagner is rolling in his grave as we speak!!!
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post

    Hell how come rappers can't even say their whole song, take breaks like every bar
    What does this mean?? I have no clue what you're referring to.
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    Originally Posted by NewbieX2 View Post
    What does this mean?? I have no clue what you're referring to.
    Regarding performances
    The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

    That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.

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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Regarding performances
    I understand the context of what you're saying, but what do you mean by "They can't even say their whole song"?
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    Rap is a medium through which anybody can express themselves.

    Just because the powers that be have chosen people like Lil Yachty/Future etc to represent rap doesn't mean that is what the medium is limited to.
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    Originally Posted by NewbieX2 View Post
    I understand the context of what you're saying, but what do you mean by "They can't even say their whole song"?
    As in they physically don't say the whole song, they take breaks, they have like 10 hype men finishing off their bars, etc.

    Am I typing in Chinese or something?
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Regarding performances

    Even as a rap fan I'll admit that rap in general has ****ty live shows, but you're talking about the bad ones. See Del, Pharoahe Monch, The Roots, Black Moon...

    I saw Nas once and he forgot the words to some of his classics, the dj started going off on him
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    Originally Posted by NewbieX2 View Post
    What does this mean?? I have no clue what you're referring to.
    I think he's referring to adlibs?
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    I think I understand what he's saying now after trying to find an example on youtube. I just saw a clip of Chance doing it, but he was jumping around and hyping up the crowd like crazy, so he's gotta catch his breath every now and then.

    If that's all the evidence you need to say that rap is terrible, then alright, I guess.
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    What about guys like DJ Quick, legit musical prodigy, taught himself how to play like 7 instruments by age 11....writes,raps,produces,record producer,DJ......heck he was involved in nearly all the great stuff from the 90's.

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    Agreed lol rap is definitely the easiest genre to go big in

    The producers do most the work then some guy talks over the beat

    Look at all the talentless youtubers making rap songs lol

    Literally every famous youtuber has a rap song ****s retarded
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