Hey Elon Cuck, could you pls repeat what you said about the Paris Climate Agreement?

[NewbieX2]

It;s interesting you guys think he has done so much for the environment. The fuel that powers the Tesla car is produced by coal fired, gas fired, nuclear oil powered powerstations.

Are you under the illusion that all electric energy is produced by solar and wind?

Not to mention the Tesla is a high value car that uses a lot of materials, which all must be mined and processed. Especially Lithium, a material that causes a lot of environmental damage when it is mined.

If you dont want to harm the environment do not drive and do not fly! Especially in a private jet!

I'm confused; what exactly is your solution? We first stop everyone from driving and flying and THEN worry about all the other things contributing to climate change? srs, trying to understand your point.

[thercias]

Can only imagine the smug grin behind Trump supporters who read chit like this and actually believe it's sound logic lmao. One person riding on a private jet is not going to do anything to the climate. Changing the structure of how an entire country gets their energy so that they pollute less will, which is exactly what he's trying to do with Tesla and SolarCity.

[dozaman]

Can only imagine the grin behind smug Trump supporters who think this is actually sound logic lmao. One person riding on a private jet is not going to do anything to the climate. Changing the structure of how an entire country gets their energy so that they pollute less will, which is exactly what he's trying to do with Tesla and SolarCity.

cognitive dissonance. it's a weird cult (of personality) mentality these guys have.

[dozaman]

It;s interesting you guys think he has done so much for the environment. The fuel that powers the Tesla car is produced by coal fired, gas fired, nuclear oil powered powerstations.

Are you under the illusion that all electric energy is produced by solar and wind?

Not to mention the Tesla is a high value car that uses a lot of materials, which all must be mined and processed. Especially Lithium, a material that causes a lot of environmental damage when it is mined.

If you dont want to harm the environment do not drive and do not fly! Especially in a private jet!

this is actually a good point. electric energy does draw heavily from natural gas/coal/etc., depending on where you live. the idea is to move everyone more toward renewables though. you have to think long term.

[NewbieX2]

Can only imagine the smug grin behind Trump supporters who read chit like this and actually believe it's sound logic lmao. One person riding on a private jet is not going to do anything to the climate. Changing the structure of how an entire country gets their energy so that they pollute less will, which is exactly what he's trying to do with Tesla and SolarCity.

cognitive dissonance. it's a weird cult (of personality) mentality these guys have.

It's not about logic; it never was. It's about standing behind your guy in office and opposing "the liberals" on whatever position they take, no matter what.

[dozaman]

It's not about logic; it never was. It's about standing behind your guy in office and opposing "the liberals" on whatever position they take, no matter what.

i think a lot of people have conflated "culture wars" with things that actually matter. like, y'know, economic policies and such. the lower class has been taking a beating in this country for so long and at the end of the day they have no one to blame but themselves, because at the end of the day we do live in a democracy. if you aren't ceo 10k/day you have no business voting for any republican. we don't have to guess about what happens when we move toward supply side economics. we have tried it before and it has been proven to be a failure for any working class american.

[NewbieX2]

i think a lot of people have conflated "culture wars" with things that actually matter. like, y'know, economic policies and such. the lower class has been taking a beating in this country for so long and at the end of the day they have no one to blame but themselves, because at the end of the day we do live in a democracy. if you aren't ceo 10k/day you have no business voting for any republican. we don't have to guess about what happens when we move toward supply side economics. we have tried it before and it has been proven to be a failure for any working class american.

I'm certainly no economics expert, but from my very limited understanding I thought that both supply side and demand side have their merits, it just depends on how the economy is functioning at that particular time that determines which is the better option. Such as, in periods of recession, demand side is more productive, and otherwise supply side is the smart move. I dunno, just what I've heard. If you have some economic knowledge, feel free to educate me.

[thunderykoala]

bro, hes the CEO of two companies.

he literally doesnt have the time to sit at an airport and f*cking wait hours for the plane ride.

what if his business meeting is delayed and he loses investors, etc...

srsly bro this is embarrassing as shyt

Let's say everyone was a CEO and had places to be. What then? We expect the other person, and everyone else to change their behaviors in order to help the environment, while we grant ourselves special exemptions to the rules?

I get what you're saying, but in a sense it's difficult to digest. Because the people, the rich, who typically ask of others don't themselves seem to want to abide. It's like China. They expect other country's to offset their carbon emission usage. They're too busy producing to really give it chit, so they shrug the responsibility off to other countries.

[dozaman]

I'm certainly no economics expert, but from my very limited understanding I thought that both supply side and demand side have their merits, it just depends on how the economy is functioning at that particular time that determines which is the better option. Such as, in periods of recession, demand side is more productive, and otherwise supply side is the smart move. I dunno, just what I've heard. If you have some economic knowledge, feel free to educate me.

this economy has been almost exclusively supply side since like the 50s. gdp has been on and incline since then while income inequality has been on a SHARP incline. that doesn't make any sense. i'm kinda drunk and i don't feel like giving sources so this is kind of a ****post

[thugonomics]

Anyone who says the Paris Accord was a good thing never read a letter of the treaty and are blindly supporting it because CNN said it'll save the world and Trump is evil. Straight up brain dead individuals.

[LeakyQuesadilla]

Let's say everyone was a CEO and had places to be. What then? We expect the other person, and everyone else to change their behaviors in order to help the environment, while we grant ourselves special exemptions to the rules?

I get what you're saying, but in a sense it's difficult to digest. Because the people, the rich, who typically ask of others don't themselves seem to want to abide. It's like China. They expect other country's to offset their carbon emission usage. They're too busy producing to really give it chit, so they shrug the responsibility off to other countries.

Listen, I understand the hypocrisy of preaching about preserving the environment while traveling in a private jet and releasing more CO2 than the average person ever will but realistically there is no there other option for a guy like Elon.

Conversely, if Elon drove a F750 and constantly preached about the environment then yes, we can all agree he is a colossal *******

[impulsiveautist]

This. If you're against homelessness then you're obligated to give all your money away and let homeless dudes move into your house rent free. If you talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk.

I wish I could find the meme where this smug dude has this sleezy smile on his face and says "So you're against capitalism....Tell me, friend....do you own things???"

[Insanity_SC]

LOL. His Tesla's don't even do chit for global emissions.

The largest 15 cargo ships in the world pollute more than all automobiles in the US. serious.

[dozaman]

LOL. His Tesla's don't even do chit for global emissions.

The largest 15 cargo ships in the world pollute more than all automobiles in the US. serious.

this is why his private jet doesnt matter.

[adamski335]

Time is extremely expensive to Musk. He runs 2 companies based in different parts of the country and needs to get to each destination in the most efficient way possible to save time. A private jet is the best ROI for this.

When you run 2 companies with a combined value in the $100B's, you cant be late because of a delayed flight.

The guy operates and thinks on a different level to everyone else.

Plus he has contributed 1000x more to the environment than anyone in the thread.

H8er's gon....

[NewbieX2]

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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuaaa, you're a legend. Thanks m8.

[Insanity_SC]

this is why his private jet doesnt matter.

not to emissions. but it absolutely matters to argumentation and especially to policy

here's the worlds coolest statistician on the subject (Nassim Taleb): ********************/incerto/the-merch...e-b548762658f0

[dozaman]

not to emissions. but it absolutely matters to argumentation and especially to policy

here's the worlds coolest statistician on the subject (Nassim Taleb): ********************/incerto/the-merch...e-b548762658f0

it definitely matters to argumentation. i'm not saying he's not being hypocritical in some sense. but it has NOTHING to do with policy, because we don't live in a world where anyone who isn't super-rich can have a private jet. anyway i bookmarked the link, will watch it later.

[BetaAsPhuck]

Celebs, billionaires and political figures should totally take economy class. I mean, it's not like these type of people are ever targeted. What's the worst that could happen?

The misc: "Muslims are everywhere trying to kill us all!"

The misc: "Why doesn't this famous multi-billionaire fly to his frequent meetings using commercial airlines, in economy class?"

[Maximus93]

this.

meanwhile every single leader at that gay ass summit have flown in on private chartered jets and had convoys of security vehicles escort them through the city.

This is how stupid miscers are. They don't even realise where the majority of emissions come from.

I'll link you to the article (something miscers find abhorrent, actually reading) took me phucking 5 seconds to google it. http://www.wri.org/blog/2006/10/gree...here-they-come

"Energy consumption is the major contributor of GHGs (61%). Within energy consumption, 40% is electricity and heat generation, another 20% is transportation and the remainder is building heat and industry.

But energy consumption is by far not the only GHG source. Land-use change is the second largest contributor globally. Land-use change includes deforestation, reforestation (replanting in existing forested areas) and afforestation (creating new forested areas). Together, the activities under land-use change can be either a source or a sink of greenhouse gases; they can either contribute GHGs to or remove them from the atmosphere. Agriculture is another significant GHG source.

The major greenhouse gas is of course carbon dioxide (CO2) and nearly all CO2 comes from fossil fuels and land-use change. But methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide (N2O), which mostly come from agriculture and waste, are also significant GHGs and shouldn't be discounted."

This shows that outdated technology is the issue, not millionaires/billionaires owning private jets since that can easily be corrected. The Paris Accord would reconcile that as it makes efforts for nations to look into new technology to make things like airplanes using fossil fuels a non-issue.

If you discount from the lack of technology into airplane engines and consider that these prominent figures are serious about climate change, their airplane rides are a drop in the ocean towards the negative compared to the tidal wave of good that their actions will do. I applaud his efforts and two lines of your text have done little to convince me otherwise.

[LegDayLol]

He should stick a solar panel on his massive fkin forehead

[darkninja67]

So he actually helps save the environment because his Tesla cars use electricity that magically appears???
Got it.

[BootneckBrah]

He should stick a solar panel on his massive fkin forehead

Fkn ded.

[Lefticle]

He should stick a solar panel on his massive fkin forehead

Would at least make up for his jet srs

[Upshall18]

How is it hypocrisy that he takes the fastest travel possible when he has done more for the climate than another person in the history of mankind?

brb I'm a fire fighter who has saved dozens of lives so it's ok if I take a few

The misc: "Muslims are everywhere trying to kill us all!"

The misc: "Why doesn't this famous multi-billionaire fly to his frequent meetings using commercial airlines, in economy class?"

Wouldn't be a problem if muslims weren't allowed to fly

[EoR]

ROFL. He has to be practical. Is it worth him to comply like one of these environmentalists shrills in order to not be "hypocritical" or consistent to his cause? No. All these people crying who are contributing nothing, life isn't black and white. Yes, let's make him use a canoe next time. If I was him, I'd fly my private jet Top Gun "Tower flyby style" over the crowds and choke them out. Give them something proper to moan about. Once again "feelgood" humans and their self-satisfaction always have to have their little crusade., 99% of which contribute nothing of true value to society that any functioning human or robot could do.

All these conventions/meetings/summits bring out the retardation in full force.

[fishnbrah]

So .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0001% of his planes emmisions towards global warming concern you? Not to mention the fact that he has saved a billion of his planes rides emission by the fact that tesla are being used instead of cars by people?

Logic not even once

Brb "its the principle"
That's what liberals usually say

and some day youll be able to lick the aristocracies anus's

[Lefticle]

and some day youll be able to lick the aristocracies anus's

This.

Strong peasent mindset

[Arsenal01]

LOL at the typical hypocritcal trumplets


he just gave saudi arabia 110$ billion dollars! (the week before the manchester and Iraq bombings btw )

but elon musk the self made multi billionaire whos done more for this world than trump or any of his trumplets gets sht for this


what a time to be alive with all these idiots

[AWillis]

what a goober