Hey,
I'm finishing up my cut after having reached my goal weight/physique (5'10, 160 pounds). I would say I am relatively lean and at or below 15% body fat. Regardless, I have been cutting for far too long and need to add muscle to my frame.
I currently eat 1800-1900 calories and lose roughly 1.5-2 pounds a week. If I want to start a clean bulk (e.g. gaining as little body fat as possible while putting on muscle) where would I start and how much weight gain should I allow a week to ensure it's mostly muscle and not fat.
I am a novice lifter and I have read that you can only really gain 2 pounds of muscle a month. Does that mean I want to be gaining roughly 3 pounds of body weight a month? So eat at like a 300 calorie surplus (which idk if I'm right, but would that be 2500 calories for me?).
Let me know if I am heading in the right direction and have the right idea, thanks.
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Thread: First Bulk, Need Help
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10-11-2016, 09:04 AM #1
First Bulk, Need Help
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10-11-2016, 09:37 AM #2
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Reverse diet and add 200 calories or so per week until gaining 2 pounds or so per month. Also follow a proven routine.
NUTRITION
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TRAINING
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Remember one thing, supplements are only that; they supplement something and are never meant to be replacements. A multivitamin will not replace fruits and vegetables, a fat burner will not replace a caloric deficit, and a meal replacement is not meant to be your only source of calories.
This is a brief run down of the 'basics', for further breakdowns of specific ingredients (like Yohimbe, Forskolin, Glycerol, ect) more research on your part would be needed.
Protein
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CLA
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10-11-2016, 09:47 AM #3
Why do you suggest reverse cutting as opposed to simply jumping to an estimated caloric intake that would net me 2 months of weight gain a month.
Also, if a person can gain 2 pounds of muscle, shouldn't I be trying to gain more than 2 pounds a month. If everything was perfect, I would put on pure 2 pounds of muscle. But I'm not perfect, so if I gain 2 pounds won't only 1 of it be muscle? Therefore, wouldn't I want be gaining 4 pounds a month to ensure I try and hit those 2 pounds of muscle?
Thanks
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10-11-2016, 09:57 AM #4
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I don't think reverse dieting is necessary in your case. If you weren't tracking your weight loss each week, then I think reverse dieting would be beneficial. If you're accurate with your 1.5-2lbs of weight loss a month, that would mean you're in a 750-1000 calorie a day deficit. So, if you're eating at 1800 calores, you're maintenance would be around 2500-2800. If you're on a proven weight training program, I'd shoot for 2-3 lbs a month of weight gain which is roughly a 300 calorie surplus.
Once you're done with your cut, I'd stay at maintenance for a week or two so your body adapts to the increased calories. Once you have maintained a weight and know if you're at maintenance, bump your calories 300 and monitor weight.New England Patriot
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10-11-2016, 10:04 AM #5
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10-11-2016, 03:26 PM #6
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10-11-2016, 07:10 PM #7
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10-11-2016, 10:13 PM #8
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10-12-2016, 07:38 AM #9
It main seem stupid, but I just realized two pounds a month is actually 7000 calories burned/foregone a week. Here I am thinking I am eating in strictly a 500 calorie deficit. I find it hard to believe my maintenance is so high and it would mean I'd need to eat around 2800 calories to gain two pounds a month. That just seems excessive and I don't see how I can eat that much food.
Would reverse dieting allow me to adjust to eating so mcuh food? I feel like I have been cutting for so long that I 'forgot' how to eat high calories.
Also, a .5 gain a week would be roughly a 250 surplus correct?
Again, thanks guys. I am really excited to start my first bulk and really see my lifts and strength go up. Just want to do this right.
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10-12-2016, 08:17 AM #10
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Yes, it could allow you to build back to a more volumous intake more comfortably, or you could just eat more calorie dense foods. ~250 surplus for .5 pounds per week, yes.
Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
1/13/16: Massive hernia.
5/10/16: Finally back to lifting, light but improving.
Why Teens shouldn't cut/Lack of progress thread- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=169272763&p=1397509823#post1397509823
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10-12-2016, 09:55 AM #11
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10-12-2016, 09:58 AM #12
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