Any older older miscer laugh at how delusional this site is about income/money?

[Hardlifter9]

Aware OP. Unless you're becoming a high end professional or one of the rare few who succeeds in business, there's no chance in hell you're making that money.

[sices]

I just got my first job out of college right before I turn 22 and will be making like $45k with overtime factored in.

As far as I'm concerned I'm on my way to making it.

[5x10]

I've made over $400k and I've made $50k, it all matter how you spend your money
Drive cheap cars, live well below your means and you'll set your self up for the future

[KyleAaron]

I just got my first job out of college right before I turn 22 and will be making like $45k with overtime factored in.

As far as I'm concerned I'm on my way to making it.

Well done, you better change your sig.

[ATBVanburen]

I've made over $400k and I've made $50k, it all matter how you spend your money
Drive cheap cars, live well below your means and you'll set your self up for the future

in terms of importance

managing finances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ma king a huge income


My brother in law in NY makes 400K and basically lives paycheck to paycheck. I make 170K and I save 50K a year

[marinevet63031]

If someone is doing the 120k a year in St. L, then they are living well. Between my wife working and my Marine Corps disability we are at a bit over 100k and we are happy and comfortable. We are smart with money and have 70k in the bank. Successful life is credit rating and bank account. Not how much a year.

[sices]

I made 36k my first job and i used to live in the midwest. my salary skyrocketed each year as i hopped jobs. best thing i did.

It doesn't look bad on your resume to show that you're leaving each job after a year?

[DrunkPanda18]

you dont think this site is heavily skewed towards stem and business vs the US average? Or are you disputing the income percentile guess of mine? Cause the average US engineer makes 100k fyi.

lol. Have you looked around, lately? The IQ of people on the misc in general is probably 2 standard deviations below the national average. There are some intelligent people here, but I would say those are the outliers

[Porte7]

It doesn't look bad on your resume to show that you're leaving each job after a year?

I think there was a time that it did, but with the younger professionals (myself included) it's normal.

Look at the linkedin's of younger professionals. Hiring new people, it's more about extracting what we can, while we can. Not with a long-term expectation.

[marcus03svt]

majority of misc is sheltered kids who dont know anything about life

[ATBVanburen]

lol. Have you looked around, lately? The IQ of people on the misc in general is probably 2 standard deviations below the national average. There are some intelligent people here, but I would say those are the outliers

majority of misc is sheltered kids who dont know anything about life

wrekt

[DrunkPanda18]

maybe if u werent a drunk panda u woulda gone into the right field the first time around brah

It's not my fault, bruh. My ******* professors in school lied to me. They told me that being a CPA is a good thing and people will 'mire you. ALL LIES! (Frau Farbissina voice from Austin Powers). In the real world, what happens is that your coworkers treats you like you're a nuisance just for doing your damn job. And upper management will never cater to you because they just see you as a cost center that is utterly replaceable, rather than a revenue generating asset.

Hold me, fellow accounting brahs . Also follow my lead and GTFO of accounting before it's too late (seriously, once you hit like 40, it becames practically impossible to get an accounting job because companies would rather hire new college grads, since they are willing to work for less than half the salary that you would get, due to your experience level etc)

[Yachty]

tfw misc ruined you in one of the best possible ways (sub-10k a day is sub par....and im making solid progress towards that goal lmfao)

[bobbydigitaloa]

Good to finally get confirmation that the bullchit, inflated salary threads are made by high school nerds with 11 accounts lol

[TheFomo]

I like the standards.

It gives me hope that I'll have 1 mill in the next few years. Even 1 mil is slightly under average with all these 10kadayers.

[AWillis]

There is a thread on the first page here where a guy talks about a 40 year old making 75K is not making it. If you look up any data on individual earners (not households) in the US, 75K is around top 20-25% of the US. That means you're making more money than 4 out of 5 people on average yet miscers here think that's complete poverty


It's seriously hilarious to me how many college age kids here think they will graduate school and start easily making 200-500K a year. Vast majority of you here will never even sniff 90 or 100K, much less 150, much less 200+. Most of you will work mediocre jobs earning 40-60k a year your whole life and live paycheck to paycheck


Reality is going to hit this site members very hard.

You don't seem to be aware that the most important relationship you can have is the relationship you have with yourself.

That said, why is it that people strive to be "normal." Are people really that involved in feeling the need to be socially accepted that they give up everything in life? I see more and more men in America being less and less happy. I mean self motivation is at an all time low. Just check out the recent threads.

If you look at this message board for example: You see people so concerned with having friends, banging chicks, or fitting in that they post 500 times per day, ask for advice they should be able to figure out on their own, and generally have little thoughtful behavior. I really just cannot understand the appeal of being normal. Working the 9-5 job for 40 years, at the end of which you get a pat on the back, and told to go home and sit around and die basically.

Why do people strive for this? Am i missing something here. What makes someone happy with being average? Perhaps i live in a different world (figuratively speaking) but i strive for great things.

Basically i suppose what i am getting at is are people just incredibly lazy and unwilling to strive for goals that are challenging?

Also please do not take this post the wrong way, i am not saying having a 9-5 job and being average is a bad thing, i just don't see why people make that their goal.

In any event, if you strive for mediocrity, please share your story and reason behind it.

[KyleAaron]

Can't say it's all of them. Statistically there's gotta be some well-off people here. But I wouldn't expect them to be posting much. Like the 800lb squatters, they're probably busy with something other than posting on a forum.

The ones I've checked on were mostly posting from university IPs. Like I said, as you look through their posts - which anyone can do - you notice that their story changes, one day they're studying X and plan to make lots of money, the next day they're working and actually are earning that money. Combined with seeing the uni IP we can assume it's the first one. The positive way to look at it is that they're studying and they're ambitious.

In this respect it reminds me of all those discussions people had a few years back about those "natural muscular limit" articles. Basically everyone was screaming that they were going to one day blast through these "supposed" limits - but they hadn't yet. But they were going to, damnit! And the ones who claimed they had already somehow never produced any proof. Well, okay.

e-statting is all good fun, but it'd be more useful if the people who actually had achieved things were to talk about how they had achieved them, this would be useful for others wanting to achieve the same things.

[jackm7]

Can't say it's all of them. Statistically there's gotta be some well-off people here. But I wouldn't expect them to be posting much. Like the 800lb squatters, they're probably busy with something other than posting on a forum.

The ones I've checked on were mostly posting from university IPs. Like I said, as you look through their posts - which anyone can do - you notice that their story changes, one day they're studying X and plan to make lots of money, the next day they're working and actually are earning that money. Combined with seeing the uni IP we can assume it's the first one. The positive way to look at it is that they're studying and they're ambitious.

e-statting is all good fun, but it'd be more useful if the people who actually had achieved things were to talk about how they had achieved them, this would be useful for others wanting to achieve the same things.

brah this is the misc, i think most people like to troll and talk ****, don't take everything so seriously

[open_society]

Can't say it's all of them. Statistically there's gotta be some well-off people here. But I wouldn't expect them to be posting much. Like the 800lb squatters, they're probably busy with something other than posting on a forum.

The ones I've checked on were mostly posting from university IPs. Like I said, as you look through their posts - which anyone can do - you notice that their story changes, one day they're studying X and plan to make lots of money, the next day they're working and actually are earning that money. Combined with seeing the uni IP we can assume it's the first one. The positive way to look at it is that they're studying and they're ambitious.

In this respect it reminds me of all those discussions people had a few years back about those "natural muscular limit" articles. Basically everyone was screaming that they were going to one day blast through these "supposed" limits - but they hadn't yet. But they were going to, damnit! And the ones who claimed they had already somehow never produced any proof. Well, okay.

e-statting is all good fun, but it'd be more useful if the people who actually had achieved things were to talk about how they had achieved them, this would be useful for others wanting to achieve the same things.

Another possible explanation is the cultural differences between countries.

For example, from what i have gleaned 60K seems a pretty reasonable salary in the US, while 60K is only a median salary in Australia and not considered to be well off.

[SkepticalOne]

e-statting is all good fun, but it'd be more useful if the people who actually had achieved things were to talk about how they had achieved them, this would be useful for others wanting to achieve the same things.

My perspective is that expectations are askew on the misc. However, there does seems to be a relatively high percentage of STEM students and grads, and I would generally expect the misc to have a relatively high income if it weren't for the low average age of the population.

I'm not one of those uni IPs. I'm 39 and worked hard in undergrad to get a bachelor of engineering degree…my second job out of school was legit and I've been there ever since. The employer has paid for my Masters of Engineering and put me through an MBA. This has been my greatest personal achievement - having education paid for by someone else. Truth is, most major employers will reimburse tuition to the extent that the pursuit is in a relevant field.

At this point, I bring in about $150K and have a reasonably consistent (38hr/wk) schedule.

The key for me has been to always feel as if you're fighting for more…always ensure that you are growing rather than harvesting. This can mean seeking out new more challenging roles or pursuing new accreditations.

With the money I make now, I don't strive for higher salary. I just try and strike a balance between work and my non-work pursuits such as parenting and physical fitness.

[MagicMata]

Another possible explanation is the cultural differences between countries.

For example, from what i have gleaned 60K seems a pretty reasonable salary in the US, while 60K is only a median salary in Australia and not considered to be well off.

60k is easily enough to live off even in Australia, that's still higher than first-second year graduate salaries in most fields and more than most tradies will ever make in their lives (unless they go to work in the mines).

[AhDo]

The Misc is heavily-skewed towards high school, university kids and unemployed.

We see their IPs, lots are posting from their school's wifi. And if someone's regularly posting at 3am it's a good bet he's not getting up to go to a 9-5 job tomorrow. They also post fairly steadily throughout the day, most employers frown on your spending all day on social media, and people with businesses are just too busy to do it. As well, if you look at someone's post history you often notice that they can't decide if they're studying finance (etc) or actually working in it already, their story keeps changing.

When we ban someone, we go and do an IP check to see if he (virtually always a "he") had alternate accounts. The minimum seems to be 5. When it's 5 or so you find they were all signed up in the same week, the guy has his different accounts rep each-other. When it's 10+ he's done that but also each time one account is banned he starts posting with the other ones, they get banned and so on, until he's eventually hit with an IP ban. 20-40 is pretty common. They often use proxies but they always return to their own IP eventually, they post from their phone or something and forget to enable the proxy. On Saturday I banned a guy who had over 200 alternate accounts. And of course you need a new email address for each account here. So there's a significant time investment in making new accounts, logging in and out and repping yourself, proxying, messaging back and forth with mods claiming, "nah, that's not me, honest, my phone got hacked," and all the rest.

My experience of people on 120+k is they don't have time for all that sht.

Do you have dirt on the car salesman?

Is it always the same person or are there multiple car salesmen who won't let the legend die?

[deltbrah]

Just looked it up. 100k/year puts you in the top 4% of earners. Only like 15% of the people making that much are younger than 35. So in other words something like 1/200 people will make 100k/yr before they are 35.

and they all happen to be miscers

what is your point?

[Aboozer5]

I always think of this, LOL

Matt Foley: First off, I am 35 years old.. I am divorced.. and I live in a van down by the river! Now, you kids are probably saying to yourself, "Now, I'm gonna go out, and I'm gonna get the world by the tail, and wrap it around and put it in my pocket!!" Well, I'm here to tell you that you're probably gonna find out, as you go out there, that you're not gonna amount to Jack Squat!!" You're gonna end up eating a steady diet of government cheese, and living in a van down by the river! Now, young man, what do you want to do with your life?

Brian: [ nervous ] I.. actually, Matt.. I kinda wanna be a writer..

Matt Foley: We-e-e-elll.. la-de-freakin'-da! We've got ourselves a writer here! [ jumps across the room ] Hey, Dad, I can't see real good.. [ lifts his glasses off and on his face ] ..is that Bill Shakespeare over there?

[jackm7]

I always think of this, LOL


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strong avi lol

[JeenyusJr]

If you go into the right field 100k a year is absolutely do-able by 40 - if you play your cards right you should hit that late twnties if you do computer science or engineering if not sooner

I agree though, you have to work hard for this, I've seen a lot of dropouts

Yup. And yes OP I laugh. Much like getting to 10%bf a lot of people talk about something, but won't put in the time and effort to acheive it.

In some of my first years after post-grad I was able to live fine on around $30k. I had a car and bought a townhouse while in the $40's. Getting into $100k range in my 30's with 10 years relevant experience is a challenge, but quite do-able.

[FPS75]

This is the truth

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?...lary+in+the+US

[KyleAaron]

brah this is the misc, i think most people like to troll and talk ****, don't take everything so seriously

If more of them took more things seriously, maybe they would have bodies, lifts and income they didn't have to e-stat about.

[cumatmebrahx]

Its not about how much you make, its about the choices you make with that money. I can make 30k or 300k but if my choices are poor then ill be broke no matter what.

Most of you idiots will get married no matter how much you say no because deep down you're a beta, consider 50% of your salary gone
Most of you will finance a car to get girls (consider a good amount of your wage gone)

[badlasagna]

Dude I made 154K last year, I am going to likely get very close to 170K this year. At some point in life, I want to get in that 250-300K range. I have HUGE goals and aspirations


The difference is that I'm not a delusional idiot who is disconnected from reality. I realize that I'm in the top 0.01% of men my age for income level and I don't take it for granted and don't discount how incredibly difficult it is to make a good living for a lot of people (and yes, 60-70K a year is good living)

the delusion is real.

"all miscers are delusional"

"except me, this is how much $$ I make"