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04-07-2016, 02:04 PM #151
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04-07-2016, 02:53 PM #152
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Even farm boys and movers don't regularly lift that kind of weight for that range or motion. In real life things are just to awkward for you to be lifting 200-300 lbs by yourself. For example: the average full size sofa is 180 pounds. That is a 2/3 man job and it feels heavy as fuk.
Less so with the 200s, but when you get into 300 plus dead-lift club (which happens ridiculously fast.) you put a lot of stress on your back. The margin of error for a clean perfect lift and hitching/backrounding/twist is minuscule. When you are fully loaded one little mistake can burn your ass to the ground.
Honestly, it makes call e-stats on your lifts. Typically the strongmen understand this the most. There are SOOO many little things people do wrong and so few qualified people able to critique it that people just ruin their body.Finance Degree - USAF INTEL - IIFYM - Injured Crew - KTM XCW300 - Single Track Trail Rider - NRA Supporter - Shunned from MFC - Libertarian - Pragmatist
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Trying to get your ideal outcome often leads to the passing up of practical alternatives that deny your adversaries theirs.
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04-07-2016, 02:57 PM #153
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04-07-2016, 03:03 PM #154
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04-07-2016, 03:06 PM #155
Honestly, i tried a lot of different bodybuilding workouts but i have made the most overall size progress with starting strength and then 5/3/1. Sticking to the big barbell lifts did much more for me, including deadlifts but everyone has their own path. Weightlifting doesnt have to be done only one way.
on a more relevant side my back does get a little funny feeling after my 10 sets of dead lifts.
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04-07-2016, 03:13 PM #156
No thank you jeffrey, lol @ conventional deadlifts
Trap bar deadlifts - safe and easy to perform
Glute/hip thrust - develop dem gloots, no injury risk, better isolation
Romanian deadlift and front squats
All you need for leg development along with accessories like leg press, ham curl, extensions, calf raises.
BRB no chance of getting injured, no ego, no fukt up lower back down the road
BRB deadlifting for years, one day something just isn't right and you have to lay down and rot for the rest of your life
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04-07-2016, 03:18 PM #157
Even if you think you have perfect form, you more than likely don't with deadlifts, squats, and even bench. When the weights start getting heavy it will bring out all the small imperfections with your form and you WILL eventually get injured. Quit doing deads and squats real heavy and couldn't be happier. No knee problems for this guy any more
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04-07-2016, 03:19 PM #158
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04-07-2016, 03:24 PM #159
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04-07-2016, 03:27 PM #160
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04-07-2016, 03:31 PM #161
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04-07-2016, 05:35 PM #164
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04-07-2016, 06:50 PM #168
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04-07-2016, 06:51 PM #169
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lol, this.
lmao @ thinking lifting 300lbs as a human at any size for years on end is good for you.
lmao @ risking injury for a completely useless motion and activity. Atleast with something like boxing you risk injury but learn vital skills in the process.
What are you gonna do, lift a car off a fukken cat LOL.
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04-07-2016, 07:31 PM #170
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Jesus, bobby you should know better than this.
The last rep of a heavy set in pretty much anything is never as clean as the first few.
When it comes to DL perfect form vs "not good" is a small small window. Hell even at powerlifting meets you see form suffer once people start failing to get it up.
Once you fuk up something in your back there is a good chance it will never be the same.Finance Degree - USAF INTEL - IIFYM - Injured Crew - KTM XCW300 - Single Track Trail Rider - NRA Supporter - Shunned from MFC - Libertarian - Pragmatist
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Trying to get your ideal outcome often leads to the passing up of practical alternatives that deny your adversaries theirs.
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04-07-2016, 07:39 PM #171
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04-07-2016, 09:25 PM #172
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04-07-2016, 09:26 PM #173
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I recommend front squatting in place of back squatting if you are going to do the two multiple times a week. It is a lot of stress on your back. Front squats are more upright so less shear stress and more compressive along with getting very similar training stimuli using a relative load (% of max) this also means less stress on tendons and ligaments due to less weight. You could also do sumo instead of conventional but lettuce be reality sumo isn't the same (for me anyway). Front squats also workout your thoracic extensors much better which has direct and much needed carry over to deadlifts. Also please do good ab work.
You people really need to think about using your legs in the deadlift..if you lowback is killing you after or sore you most likely are too weak in your legs or you're just lifting wrong OR too much. Think of exploding off the floor by pushing through your heels and extending your knee/using your quads then extending your hips with a strong glute contraction. The bar should be touching your body the whole lift, if it doesn't that means you will be putting more shear stress on your back. I wrap my shins with knee sleeves because I bruise easy and sweatpants aren't thick enough.
Also realize there is no universal deadlift form. It took me years to adopt the form I'm using now because I listened to everyone else that you need high hips ect. My trex arms put my hamstrings in a huge stretch making the lift uncomfortable and more back involved. I now use Olympic shoes and lower hips to help explode with my quads then shift the weight back to my hips (explained above)I'm gonna make it brahs.
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04-07-2016, 09:39 PM #174
My back feels better than it ever has in the last ten years after a car accident fawked it up permanently. Deadlifting and high volume back accessory work has helped with that.
Tfw people stare at you pulling more weight with snatch grip than they can pull conventional/sumo-80lbs lost crew
-Always cutting Crew
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04-07-2016, 10:09 PM #175
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04-07-2016, 10:13 PM #176
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04-07-2016, 10:36 PM #180anonymousGuest
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