GDA question

[gaarazg]

Hey im new here and i was wondering about GDA's. i see there several threads about this but they include only few products. i was wondering what would you recommend for someone who is gaining muscles easy but fat too, especially when i up my carbs. so from this list what would u recommend: biotest indigo, san Na r-ala, MD's Ultimate Glucose Disposal Agent, Slin-Sane, Glycobol, AST r-ala?

[eatyourspinach]

If you are gaining too much unwanted fat you may simply be eating too much or increasing calories too quickly, but if you are trying to put on muscle mass it is almost inevitable that you will end up gaining some fat. That being said Na-R-ALA + Agmatine, SNS Glycophase and Omega Sports Burn 24 are some popular options.

[Msistine]

^ great advice - you may be overeating / underestimating calories. Being deliberate with GDAs is also helpful - sometimes people use them with cheat meals as an excuse to eat high fat / high carb as if it will block fat/calories - rather than helping with efficiency, reducing bloat, effects on blood sugar/insulin sensitivity etc.

OP I'd recommend Blue Star Glycodrive - lots of great feedback on the forum and one of the best nutrient partitioners I've used.

Other choices would be Prime Partition-MD, bulk Na-R-ALA + Agmatine.

[VinnyPasqua]

I thought Glycobol was pretty good.
My Review: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1402762303

[co1e_train]

I Glycobol and Slin-sane is good stuff imo. However if you find that your gaining fat easily with carbohydrates I would encourage dropping your carbohydrates down a touch and maybe keeping them in the pre/post workout meals for better utilization by the body.

[ebunch12]

Haven't tried a lot of GDA's, but I really enjoyed Burn24.

[JSClen]

Burn24
Partition-MD
Glycodrive
Slintensity

Lots of great options out there. Still, be very deliberate and conscientious about how you manage your carbs. There are no magic bullets.

[MyoRich]

we're going to be having a very aggressive intro sale on our GDA soon, just need to be signed up on our email list

[rhadam]

Realistically if you're trying to gain muscle mass you're going to gain fat. If you think you're gaining too much fat you need to dial down the calories a bit. GDAs can be beneficial on a bulk i guess, i like them more for recomp or cuts. I've used, and like, SNS Glycophase and Slin Sane (original), i can vouch for Burn24 being good.

[UNCnate]

Hey im new here and i was wondering about GDA's. i see there several threads about this but they include only few products. i was wondering what would you recommend for someone who is gaining muscles easy but fat too, especially when i up my carbs. so from this list what would u recommend: biotest indigo, san Na r-ala, MD's Ultimate Glucose Disposal Agent, Slin-Sane, Glycobol, AST r-ala?

I'm a big fan of Burn24 and Glycobol. Will be trying Partition-MD soon as well as the new one from Myokem.

[kbayne]

I'll say it again, Agmatine + Na-R-ALA or ALA mega dosed, + ALCAR

Something like Defuse + an GDA would be useful pre cheat or binge (thanksgiving, holidays, etc).

GDA best used on a cut though IMO but still believe the Agmatine + Na-R-ALA + ALCAR combo is very useful for any situation just because of all the other benefits associated with the three.

[tastan]

I Glycobol and Slin-sane is good stuff imo. However if you find that your gaining fat easily with carbohydrates I would encourage dropping your carbohydrates down a touch and maybe keeping them in the pre/post workout meals for better utilization by the body.

Thank you for support. Yes I agree with both of those. They are my favorite.
I typically use Glycobol by AI Sports, but I also do like Slin-sane.

[gaarazg]

I'll say it again, Agmatine + Na-R-ALA or ALA mega dosed, + ALCAR

Something like Defuse + an GDA would be useful pre cheat or binge (thanksgiving, holidays, etc).

GDA best used on a cut though IMO but still believe the Agmatine + Na-R-ALA + ALCAR combo is very useful for any situation just because of all the other benefits associated with the three.

Na-r-ala in what dosage? also is this one good AST r-ala?
also if i eat carbs only 2 hours, maybe hour and a half before workout ( around 60 g of carbs from oats) and immediatelly after the workout ( around 50g of carbs from white rice), should i be taking 1 capsule with each of those 2 meals or is timing to close. rest of day is just pro/fat

[kbayne]

Na-r-ala in what dosage? also is this one good AST r-ala?
also if i eat carbs only 2 hours, maybe hour and a half before workout ( around 60 g of carbs from oats) and immediatelly after the workout ( around 50g of carbs from white rice), should i be taking 1 capsule with each of those 2 meals or is timing to close. rest of day is just pro/fat

300-600mg per day dose Na-R-ALA
600-1200mg per day dose R-ALA

A dose pre would suffice although some will comment on the negative effect and muscle hypertrophy dosing ALA that close to resistance training. No need for a dose post workout.

[gaarazg]

300-600mg per day dose Na-R-ALA
600-1200mg per day dose R-ALA

A dose pre would suffice although some will comment on the negative effect and muscle hypertrophy dosing ALA that close to resistance training. No need for a dose post workout.

thanx
and i just saw you're a PEScience rep...im taking shift and i have to say, great product, but a quick question do i need to take a break between bottles? i just finished my first, and should i take a break for a week or just continue

[kbayne]

thanx
and i just saw you're a PEScience rep...im taking shift and i have to say, great product, but a quick question do i need to take a break between bottles? i just finished my first, and should i take a break for a week or just continue

Nope. Continue with your second bottle

[XCriticalBenchX]

NA-Rala + Agmatine is my go to combo.

[Mickfootie]

GDA's are a good way to help the body utilise your carbs more efficiently.

The first one i used that could be classed as a GDA now a days was Anabolic Pump by USPlabs and still is a pretty good product to be honest.

A couple that are more enhanced GDA's and are very good are -

BlueStar Nutraceuticals - Glycodrive
AD (formally Anabolic Designs) - Matador

Both have given exellent results when taken with your two highest carb meals of the day. I think in general 1 capsule of each of these can utilise around 50g of carbs for you.

[gaarazg]

so what you guys are telling me with GDA's i dont have to limit my carbs to pre/post workout only, and use them with other meals containing carbs + preworkout?

[GiftedNatty]

I'll say it again, Agmatine + Na-R-ALA or ALA mega dosed, + ALCAR

Something like Defuse + an GDA would be useful pre cheat or binge (thanksgiving, holidays, etc).

GDA best used on a cut though IMO but still believe the Agmatine + Na-R-ALA + ALCAR combo is very useful for any situation just because of all the other benefits associated with the three.

^^agreed

My favorites are These mentioned and burn 24 or slintensity. Defuse is a life saver during the holidays!

[Misctake7]

Realistically if you're trying to gain muscle mass you're going to gain fat. If you think you're gaining too much fat you need to dial down the calories a bit. GDAs can be beneficial on a bulk i guess, i like them more for recomp or cuts. I've used, and like, SNS Glycophase and Slin Sane (original), i can vouch for Burn24 being good.

^This
A GDA will not prevent fat gains if you're eating in too high of a calorie surplus. They help your body handle carbs better and can give you a better pump and less of a bloat if you're carb sensitive. It's not going to cancel out or negate calories.

[kbayne]

so what you guys are telling me with GDA's i dont have to limit my carbs to pre/post workout only, and use them with other meals containing carbs + preworkout?

You do not need to limit carb intake to pre and/or post with or without a GDA.

Obviously certain factors come into play with how you time your carbohydrate intake.

[Marshall28]

I like Slin-Sane it can be found pretty cheap from time to time.

[forresterac]

Thinking of running ABE with Phospha Muscle (PA). From what I've read, ABE has GDA properties while not being a full GDA. Would this be a decent GDA-like supplement to use on a recomp, along with the strength building aspects of ABE, I figure I am sort of killing two birds with one stone (GDA and strenth building supp)?

[kbayne]

Thinking of running ABE with Phospha Muscle (PA). From what I've read, ABE has GDA properties while not being a full GDA. Would this be a decent GDA-like supplement to use on a recomp, along with the strength building aspects of ABE, I figure I am sort of killing two birds with one stone (GDA and strenth building supp)?

Nutrient partitioning and glucose disposal benefits.

Like you said, it isn't geared fully towards being a GDA, but it is an added benefit.

[JohnSmeton]

My favorite Gda is Na-r-ala so Im going to recommend Glycobol is a favorite , as well as NA-R-ALA. On the Na-r-ala dose glycobol has 250 mgs a capsule

[hamdysayed]

I know ppl love burn 24 but I actually liked SNS glycophase way better n it's cheaper too.

[SwolenONE]

Increased Arachidonic Acid consumption can change insulin sensitivity quite drastically, which is a big factor in why X-Factor users always report a massive increase in fullness.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mn/xfactor.html

[UNCnate]

My favorite Gda is Na-r-ala so Im going to recommend Glycobol is a favorite , as well as NA-R-ALA. On the Na-r-ala dose glycobol has 250 mgs a capsule

250mg per 2 caps

[co1e_train]

Wanted to jump back in here and mention that Omega Labs Burn24 is a phenomenal GDA with a great profile. I would take a look at that product and whats in it and I think you will like what you see.