Why do some of these "Science based" Supplement Companies use Artificial Dyes?

[bpowell1985]

My intention is not to knock any specific companies as I have used products from some of these companies (JYM, Ergo, Carbon (which I have not used yet)) but I have found some companies "based on science" use artificial dyes instead of natural and I just never understood that. Anytime I see a PWO using beet root (AE, Kaged,SAN) for coloring or completely dye free (Controlled Labs) I appreciate it. I understand some of you will say that there is absolutely no harm in using these dyes (red 40, blue 1, yellow 5&6) but I guess I would prefer to do without. Anyone have any thoughts as to why more companies don't go the natural route?

[ISurfNudeBrah]

As you said, there is no harm associated with these dyes, therefore they add them. That said, I do prefer them to NOT be in there as well, I don't think they are necessary.

Companies know it influences some customers taste buds if their product mixes clear, so they include dyes. Hopefully all companies go away from that thinking eventually though.

[powercage]

Psychological studies show colors influence both taste perception and appeal. That's why.



Picture drinking clear coca cola. It's a mind frick.

[Rob1882]

0 cares about dyes/coloring, just something to scare people over with bs.

This is not much different than the fear over artificial sweeteners - so why shouldn't they include it?

Psychological studies show colors influence both taste perception and appeal. That's why.



Try drinking clear coca cola. It's a mind frick.

Absolutely true and there are a lot of studies on this topic

[Bigdumogre]

I hate when my poop has a neon color to it

[Rob1882]

I hate when my poop has a neon color to it

I don't D-Stunner used to make me feel special with that blue razz gave me an aqua marine was much sexy

[OT2000]

I hate when my poop has a neon color to it

Eat some spinach err day crew. Will send you a PM of said poop color.

[llahhsoj]

0 cares about dyes/coloring, just something to scare people over with bs.

Artificial dyes or flavoring aren't things I worry about especially when they aren't bad for you. Seems like there is enough stress in day to day life.

[Starkk]

We certainly appreciate your input, but you are most definitely not representative of the majority. As Towerpage said, most people prefer the color of the mixed product to match their expectation with regard to the flavor.

edit: Flowermage

[Gym God]

Supplementation isn't natural....

[Rushie]

Great thread OP.

I found myself growing more and more tired of the artificial colouring and lately I decided to stop purchasing any supps with artificial colouring. I absolutely do not buy that putting crap like that into my body is completely "harmless" in the long run and I feel it would be irresponsible (and stupid) for me to voluntarily ingest dyes when it is completely unnecessary. If I can get quality supps without dyes, I will choose those.

Shame, because I really wanted to try PES Alphamine Appletini. In fact, I'm sad to see companies like PES choosing to use dyes in their new stuff when they started without them. I guess it pays off for them.

[Rushie]

Supplementation isn't natural....

Oh, please...

[powercage]

We certainly appreciate your input, but you most definitely not representative of the majority. As Towerpage said, most people prefer the color of the mixed product to match their expectation with regard to the flavor.

edit: Flowermage

Piss me off and I become Glowercage

[Starkk]

Piss me off and I become Glowercage

When I reach my destination I become Parkk

When the sun goes down I become Darkk

When I rat you out to the feds I become Narkk

Okay, that last one was a stretch, I can do better

Let's give it a break and touch base again later

[powercage]

When I reach my destination I become Parkk

When the sun goes down I become Darkk

When I rat you out to the feds I become Narkk

Okay, that last one was a stretch, I can do better

Let's give it a break and touch base again later

I feel I really missed an opportunity by not suggesting GlowerRage.

Live and learn...

[Gym God]

Oh, please...

[kissdadookie]

Great thread OP.

I found myself growing more and more tired of the artificial colouring and lately I decided to stop purchasing any supps with artificial colouring. I absolutely do not buy that putting crap like that into my body is completely "harmless" in the long run and I feel it would be irresponsible (and stupid) for me to voluntarily ingest dyes when it is completely unnecessary. If I can get quality supps without dyes, I will choose those.

Shame, because I really wanted to try PES Alphamine Appletini. In fact, I'm sad to see companies like PES choosing to use dyes in their new stuff when they started without them. I guess it pays off for them.

Do you consume protein powder? I bet you most likely do and are totally ok with that. Guess what? These food dyes have been around for MUCH longer than those protein powders you're consuming. Logic would dictate that if anything, the artificial food dyes are far safer than protein powders based just on the fact that we have been ingesting them en mass for far longer than we have been buying and consuming protein powders.

[Rob1882]

To quote Layne on this from this exact question

For those asking about artificial sweeteners and colors, there is no evidence that consuming these in normal doses have negative health outcomes regardless of what anti-artificial zealots will try to convince you of. In fact, sucralose & aspartame have MORE safety data on them than stevia. Not saying stevia is bad at all, just making a point.

^He had done a video a while back on What toxic really means

Essentially: "dosage makes the poison"

[NEBinAK]

Aside from the obvious color taste correlation I think a big reason is most people don't care. On a grand scheme the majority of consumers don't care about it enough to justify a lot of companies doing something about it. Just my two cents.

Also

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[ChrisLS8]

When I reach my destination I become Parkk

When the sun goes down I become Darkk

When I rat you out to the feds I become Narkk

Okay, that last one was a stretch, I can do better

Let's give it a break and touch base again later

What the Farkk

[Represente]

When I reach my destination I become Parkk

When the sun goes down I become Darkk

When I rat you out to the feds I become Narkk

Okay, that last one was a stretch, I can do better

Let's give it a break and touch base again later

What would you do if you were a dog?

[changemyoil66]

Psychological studies show colors influence both taste perception and appeal. That's why.



Picture drinking clear coca cola. It's a mind frick.

Would pay money to drink that.

[AMeyer9]

lol @ people saying there's zero harm. Is that why there's so many banned already, and many we use in the U.S. are banned almost globally? Must just be that other countries hate colors.

As far as using natural colors, you won't see it. Most, if not all, of them alter taste of the product.






also OP, Myokem powders are dye free

[gbullock32]

Don't care either way if there is or isn't dye, but I do hate when it makes my lips colored because that gets annoying.

[Rob1882]

Lol @ some places

We could go on for days over the stupidity of many regions/states and other countries with banned substances/foods/drinks/dyes etc etc

I mean if that is the basis for dyes/artificial ( so and so claimed but with 0 evidence to support ) colors-sweeteners we going to buy into the wifi allergy as well while were at it? which was debunked and I mean there still a large group claiming vaccines give autism.

Would pay money to drink that.

They brought out a clear cola it was a MASSIVE failure like fkn epic fail

[forresterac]

Great thread OP.

I found myself growing more and more tired of the artificial colouring and lately I decided to stop purchasing any supps with artificial colouring. I absolutely do not buy that putting crap like that into my body is completely "harmless" in the long run and I feel it would be irresponsible (and stupid) for me to voluntarily ingest dyes when it is completely unnecessary. If I can get quality supps without dyes, I will choose those.

Shame, because I really wanted to try PES Alphamine Appletini. In fact, I'm sad to see companies like PES choosing to use dyes in their new stuff when they started without them. I guess it pays off for them.

Lol at you bleeding hearts.

[AMeyer9]

Lol @ some places

We could go on for days over the stupidity of many regions/states and other countries with banned substances/foods/drinks/dyes etc etc

I mean if that is the basis for dyes/artificial ( so and so claimed but with 0 evidence to support ) colors-sweeteners we going to buy into the wifi allergy as well while were at it? which was debunked and I mean there still a large group claiming vaccines give autism.



They brought out a clear cola it was a MASSIVE failure like fkn epic fail

You're right, no way dyes made from petroleum and containing carcinogens could be harmful to humans.

As for 0 evidence, I suggest looking a little further into that.

[OT2000]

They brought out a clear cola it was a MASSIVE failure like fkn epic fail

I actually enjoyed it.


I am not a fan of anything artificial. Thank gawd my wife's teets are naturally big or I would be in quite the bind.

[powercage]

Much like any technology. You cant really say they are all good or bad.

Thinking they are bad because they arent natural is foolish. Thinking they are all safe is also not necessarily smart.


Take them case by case. There are many that have decades worth of safety data.

[OT2000]

You're right, no way dyes made from petroleum and containing carcinogens could be harmful to humans.

As for 0 evidence, I suggest looking a little further into that.

Dude you forgot antifreeze.