Lifting heavy after certain age is not worth it, SRS

[Yurian]

Lifting 65 lb bales of hay over and over again is not the same thing as lifting 500 pounds.

If anything this comment backs up those supporting lower weight at higher volume.

He'll also occasionally lift massive gates with his back, or massive stones that are part of a wall and so on but, yes, most of his lifts would be light enough

[Besaidbrah]

It's a PR for him you dumb piece of ****. Get the **** out of here and stop taking away from him.

What a lucky guy to have a white knight like you. You're definitely getting some tonight, Jackie Chan

[jakobi78]

eventually they'll wear and tear your joints . All the top power lifters , Olympic lifters , strength training athletes have been injured /have broken bones , etc...
Ronnie Coleman couldn't even walk now .

[sword_]

Do you guys think Dr. Dre lifts heavy?

[TheGame76]

then you know a bunch of guys who lifted stupidly for years and are now paying the price. Go into any big corporate gym and you will find maybe 1 in 25(who knows but it's uncommon) actually lifting intelligently and with a plan. If you train within your natural capabilities with proper form, practice mobility drills and deload from time to time then you should be perfectly fine. Lifting heavy and training more like an athlete than a bodybuilder has done miracles for me physically and I can eat more now then when I was in my mid twenties and a bro bodybuilder.

[Tacomaster]

Some people just enjoy lifting heavy, regardless of their age or the risks involved, it's up to them. I like to keep it around 70%, especially cause I'm on a keto diet without refeeds so I don't have the glucose to keep me going for very long.

[LinuxJon]

Was just at a powerlifting meet.

In anything over the 220 weight class, all the strongest dudes were in their late 30's or even 40s. None of them were in wheelchairs.

People get injured, then blame their "weightlifting" as a cool explanation. Not saying some people don't get seriously hurt in the gym lifting heavy, because they do. But just don't form an opinion based on the 45 year old fat dude at work with bad knees, who claims he blew them out squatting.

[INSHAME]

Because the old weak and frail are injury free

[wampa]

Do you guys think Dr. Dre lifts heavy?

[ToPHeR35]

No problems until this year...both shoulders messed up (possible labral tear in left and fragments floating in right) and both hips have labral tears and impingement. Multiple surgeries starting Oct 6.....I want to blame lifting, but the truth is none of them happened during any training activities...

[squatz4ndOatz]

been lifting somewhat heavy weights with no consequences. Every injury I've had has been sports (read: football/track) related.

You guys seem to be forgetting that "heavy" is relative. What I use for 5 beltless squat singles when I don't feel like lifting "heavy" is more than what most people can squat for a belted max on a good day. "Heavy" isn't an absolute word. Just cause someone is outlifting you doesn't mean they're lifting "heavy". "Heavy" depends on the strength level of the person doing the lifting, not the person observing the lifting.

[TooAnabolic]

lifting heavy is necessary up until you've got basically all the muscle mass you're going to get

then volume and working in the 12-25 rep range, lifting moderately heavy sometimes for the lulz

[guest89]

figured this chit out long time ago, lift exclusively in the 15-20 rep range. better gains, no joint pain, better recovery.

I've been doing a lot of higher reps as well. Good pump/gains. No negatives from that I can tell. Shorter rest periods also which means workout seems more intense and finishes faster.

been lifting somewhat heavy weights with no consequences. Every injury I've had has been sports (read: football/track) related.

You guys seem to be forgetting that "heavy" is relative. What I use for 5 beltless squat singles when I don't feel like lifting "heavy" is more than what most people can squat for a belted max on a good day. "Heavy" isn't an absolute word. Just cause someone is outlifting you doesn't mean they're lifting "heavy". "Heavy" depends on the strength level of the person doing the lifting, not the person observing the lifting.

This is kinda true I suppose. However whats always blown my mind is when a BBer talks about lifting 'heavy' they usually are talking about 8-10 reps. When I always thought about heavy it was a 5 rep and below.





I've been doing 5/3/1 for my main 4 lifts and then lighter weight for everything else though lately I've been considering getting rid of the 5/3/1 for my main lifts and just doing 8 reps and above for everything. Already decided on ditching military press for just seated DB presses at 8+ reps.


I'll probably still barbell bench press but I've also decided to ditch full range of motion on that as well. Despite what anyone says not touching chest and not fully extending at the top is more efficient for hypertrophy. I think I've reached a stage where throwing 185 on the bar and doing partial reps and getting a good pump is infinitely more satisfying then putting 225 on the bar and doing full reps/touching chest and lower rep ranges.

[SoreGunz]

If i dont lift heavy i wont bother going to the gym, heavy weights is what motivates me to go, lifting in the 8-12 rep range all the time is boring as fuk

[LinuxJon]

Already decided on ditching military press for just seated DB presses at 8+ reps.


I'll probably still barbell bench press but I've also decided to ditch full range of motion on that as well. Despite what anyone says not touching chest and not fully extending at the top is more efficient for hypertrophy. I think I've reached a stage where throwing 185 on the bar and doing partial reps and getting a good pump is infinitely more satisfying then putting 225 on the bar and doing full reps/touching chest and lower rep ranges.

Man, props to people who can do stuff like this and stay motivated to lift.

Literally the only reason I'm not bored with the gym yet is the chase to increase the weight I'm moving. And dumbbell shoulder work makes me want to fall asleep.... standing OHP is the most rewarding lift in the gym to me.

I realize that for bodybuilding, your style of training works better. I guess what I'm saying is props to bodybuilders for being able to stay focused and motivated. That sort of training requires far more inner drive than the powerlifting stuff does.

[CoffeeBeanBrah]

Cliffs:

OP and others caution against heavy lifting and make some good points.

People disagree but completely miss the point and proceed to argue something that OP never even said + macho brag.

[guest89]

Man, props to people who can do stuff like this and stay motivated to lift.

Literally the only reason I'm not bored with the gym yet is the chase to increase the weight I'm moving. And dumbbell shoulder work makes me want to fall asleep.... standing OHP is the most rewarding lift in the gym to me.

I realize that for bodybuilding, your style of training works better. I guess what I'm saying is props to bodybuilders for being able to stay focused and motivated. That sort of training requires far more inner drive than the powerlifting stuff does.

I felt the same as you when I was in college. Structurally I'm not built for power lifting. I've a medium smallish bone structure/joints. I haven't hit a 1 rep max on any lift in at least 5 years and I'm more motivated now to train then ever. The days of a 5+ minute rest been a set so I can pound that one heavy rep is over for me.

[jesteraq]

If we can educate the people lifting with poor form, the percentage of those over the age of 35 and can still lift while being healthy will skyrocket. You also have to figure that most lifters that cannot lift anymore injured themselves when they were younger and it progressively got worse and worse. Once you tear, slip, sprain, or even strain something, it usually stays with you whether you know it or not. So if you can prevent the injuries early on, chances are you won't get injured and can successfully lift like you would at 20 at 35, 40, and so on and so forth.

People always think that they can get away with things when they're younger, cause they're just that, younger. What they don't realize is that it will come back to haunt you in your later years and it almost usually does. That 1RM that you attempted and you felt a pull in your lumbar region? Yeah you'll probably make an almost full recovery then but you essentially put a time bomb there. Which is what most people do. They brush it off and don't think of how your body will be later on in life.

As physical as powerlifting and bodybuilding is, you need to have a strong mentality going in and maintain that. You need to be smart about how you do things, longevity is the key here. You don't want to be that washed up powerlifter or bodybuilder who can't even lift anymore giving advice to those new kids at Planet Fitness. Lift for long term health, not short term satisfaction. You'll thank yourself for being able to lift normally without any restrictions when you're 40 years old while your friends are probably struggling to lose their dad bods.

[MysteriousMan]

i was playing rugby, i was young and fool then, deadlifting 400 lbs, leg pressing 700 lbs.





when you lift heavy you dont train muscles you train nervous system. its a different experience and feels good.

but im sure you wont feel good when you snap your back.


risks =/= reward.



so unless you want to compete powerlifting, its stupid

[LinuxJon]

I felt the same as you when I was in college. Structurally I'm not built for power lifting. I've a medium smallish bone structure/joints. I haven't hit a 1 rep max on any lift in at least 5 years and I'm more motivated now to train then ever. The days of a 5+ minute rest been a set so I can pound that one heavy rep is over for me.

lol them feels of 2 hour workouts with 6-8 working sets.

Makes sense though. Structurally I'm just not built for bodybuilding/physique. Have wide shoulders, but equally wide hips. The v-taper thing is just never gonna happen for me. I look better in bearmode.

[Luc1fer]

I agree, I'm much more focused on excellent form and correctly engaging the muscle now. I'm 31, and used to lift pretty heavy - but a year ago I messed up my shoulder and I'm still recovering (might need surgery). Since I lifted hard for over a decade, I've put in the ground work and it's a lot easier to maintain. Just lift heavy and push hard when you're younger, then reap the benefits of muscle memory and strong foundation when older.

[Ratfish]

on that 15-20 rep range SRS

[PositronLaser]

Truth. Not getting injured has been my number one priority for the last few years.

[LinuxJon]

I agree, I'm much more focused on excellent form and correctly engaging the muscle now. I'm 31, and used to lift pretty heavy - but a year ago I messed up my shoulder and I'm still recovering (might need surgery). Since I lifted hard for over a decade, I've put in the ground work and it's a lot easier to maintain. Just lift heavy and push hard when you're younger, then reap the benefits of muscle memory and strong foundation when older.

Definitely agree about the bolded part.

Gain muscle while you're young, and you'll benefit from it for the rest of your life. Even if you become a skinny twink for 5 years somewhere in the middle, you'll have an easy time getting back into atleast somewhat decent shape if you've got the muscle memory.

Also brah, don't believe the doctors about needing surgery. Your body is supposed to tear tendons and ligaments so they can get stronger and rebuild.

[Fsharpasharp]

dr dre wears muscle suits and techs hard

https://instagram.com/p/Nr5ncIvg-_/

that's what every man over 40 should do

[anci2]

lifting heavy is never worth it unless you're a competing powerlifter.

[BioDiver]

I'm 30 also but have zero issues like this. Wtf happened to you?

11 years of rugby and 3 years of distance running after that.

[Brawlbro]

225 lbs limit crew
who was hi - per - trophy

[E90335i]

Because at their age, growing
Up no one cares about mobility and proper form. They just lifted and didn't have proper mechanics.

Even swimmers have "swimmers shoulder" and everyone said it is what swimmers get. Now, sees don't have issues because of proper technique being taught,
Mobility training and proper warmup.

[LinuxJon]

225 lbs limit crew
who was hi - per - trophy

Who was camera zoom?

Why is your avi from 75 feet away?