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    Im a plat 4/3 soraka main. I have 4.6 kda 59-60 wr and 260 games with raka. Just found full ap/ap scaling runes (no armor/mr) to be super OP. Was wondering if there are any other champs that might be viable with this high risk high reward setup. Also if anyone wants to add me: tweezy2eezy
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    Originally Posted by tweezy2eezy View Post
    Im a plat 4/3 soraka main. I have 4.6 kda 59-60 wr and 260 games with raka. Just found full ap/ap scaling runes (no armor/mr) to be super OP. Was wondering if there are any other champs that might be viable with this high risk high reward setup. Also if anyone wants to add me: tweezy2eezy
    95% of champs. I actually used to play with solely offensive runes. I only recently started adding scaling HP since I've been playing mid. But for example on zed I run full AD/CDR/Armor pen. Go big or go home nahmsaiyan
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    People who pick Ekko in a normal blind pick just to sh*t on people... Bunch of ***g*ts.
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    He will be nerfed into the ground soon, don't worry. lol
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    20 game win streak with Leona, win lane every game, 100-20 Leona Main here, compliments on my peeling every game, feels good mane :-), currently learning thresh now
    uw0t? That's an insane winrate.....over a ton of games.....what's your elo? Mid/high diamond? or more?
    Tips/tricks on leo?
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    Originally Posted by PsykoMerc View Post
    uw0t? That's an insane winrate.....over a ton of games.....what's your elo? Mid/high diamond? or more?
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    inb4 all in normals

    That's the kind of winrate pros have when they take smurfs up to challenger..
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    20 game win streak with Leona, win lane every game, 100-20 Leona Main here, compliments on my peeling every game, feels good mane :-), currently learning thresh now
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    Originally Posted by PsykoMerc View Post
    I seriously understand why people turn insane in this game....it's like, you try to be a good citizen, good sportsman but you NEVER EVER get rewarded for it. I wonder if there is a % count on how much of the league population is straight troll/out of control. I've legit tried my hardest to maintain control(Never been banned/chat banned or temp banned, only been warned this season) ever since I learned it's the best way to win, way back in season 3, but on my side of the computer I am losing my mind lol.

    1. Constant 4v5s, laggers, dc'ers, intentional afkers....that's the worst.
    2. Trolls, people who are toxic from champ select to end of game, intentional feeding, intentionally hijacking roles, saying they will afk/feed if they don't get a role, and then follow through.
    3. Emotionally Unstable people - you know the type, the people who do badly about 2 mins into game, starts dying uncontrollably, then tilts and continues to feed. If team is doing badly, they talk non stop. Now if team is doing well, they are so unstable they will STILL keep feeding causing you to lose.

    There are SO many things in this game that make it "un-fun", it can really make a normal person insane. I feel like it takes an unfair amount of patience, tolerance, maturity, peace of mind to really play this game without letting it bother you.....Having said all that, you can still win easily on skill alone, but it's honestly not fun to play in this environment.....I really wish Riot could somehow clean all this up, because it is EXTREMELY unfair to the people who can exert the amount of control to actually play this game without taking it out on those around them.
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    I'm gold 4, it's actually the highest rank I've ever been. At the moment I'm just spamming full AP eve and carrying quite hard. It's odd that everyone builds her AD, I know it's more damage during a fight, but AP assassin eve is so much more fun. Everyone just dies.
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    Anyone noticed how lately there's almost not bot lane bans in games? My last 4 games were top oriented during the ban phase. Ekko, Hecarim, Gragas, Rumble, and then either mid or jg. Bot lane, poverty lane.
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    Originally Posted by vvvaaa View Post
    Anyone noticed how lately there's almost not bot lane bans in games? My last 4 games were top oriented during the ban phase. Ekko, Hecarim, Gragas, Rumble, and then either mid or jg. Bot lane, poverty lane.
    theres just no real carry potential from any particular AD where if someone picks it you can get so far ahead in lane.

    Kalista used to be a semi-regular ban and can do well in lane but theres just way too many threats in other roles to waste a ban on something like AD to begin with.
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    Originally Posted by tambn22 View Post
    I'm gold 4, it's actually the highest rank I've ever been. At the moment I'm just spamming full AP eve and carrying quite hard. It's odd that everyone builds her AD, I know it's more damage during a fight, but AP assassin eve is so much more fun. Everyone just dies.
    You don't know what the true AP Eve is. And gold is sh*t. Anything works.
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    Originally Posted by Mikelawton View Post
    theres just no real carry potential from any particular AD where if someone picks it you can get so far ahead in lane.

    Kalista used to be a semi-regular ban and can do well in lane but theres just way too many threats in other roles to waste a ban on something like AD to begin with.
    That's the truth man, the only champ you care about in the bot lane right now is Alistair-Kalista combo. But even then it's easy to deal with that compared to what happens if you give the other team a great top laner and you get a worse one.

    I also suck at charging up the Manamure even if I get it really early, no idea what I do wrong.
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    Originally Posted by vvvaaa View Post
    That's the truth man, the only champ you care about in the bot lane right now is Alistair-Kalista combo. But even then it's easy to deal with that compared to what happens if you give the other team a great top laner and you get a worse one.

    I also suck at charging up the Manamure even if I get it really early, no idea what I do wrong.
    I'd consider Alistar pick-ban at this point. I personally ban Kalista as well, but she has a much higher learning curve and unless you're high Diamond/Masters/Challenger she won't break open a game every time she gets left open. With Alistar, all you have to do is buy Mobi's, hit level 6, and towerdive any lane you want. Hell, Dignitas just dove an inhibitor turret with Alistar tanking it the entire time.
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    It's pretty painful how reliant TSM is on Bjergsen to hard carry them every single time. Also WildTurtle is a sh*t tier ADC and has been for a long time, even with the best support in NA, he still consistently loses lane and doesn't do much, unless TSM is super far ahead and he can just rack up kills.

    At MSI everyone talked about how TSM underperformed, and sure they didn't play that great, but at the same time they got exposed. Since Bjergsen had to go against actual good mid laners, they couldn't rely on him to just hard carry. I remember WildTurtle kept having 3v2 situations, and he would flat out lose. Also Dyrus might be just okay, but if you put him on tilt, he just goes full potato. TSM might have been the best in NA during the spring split, but teams were making huge roster changes, and Hai was at the end of his career, so they were basically the top of a bunch of sh*t tier NA teams, which massively inflated how good NA fans thought they were.

    Guarantee if there was a tournament right now with the current Fnatic and Origen rosters + all the top teams in Korea + China, TSM would get rekt again like at MSI.
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    Originally Posted by ho_124 View Post
    It's pretty painful how reliant TSM is on Bjergsen to hard carry them every single time. Also WildTurtle is a sh*t tier ADC and has been for a long time, even with the best support in NA, he still consistently loses lane and doesn't do much, unless TSM is super far ahead and he can just rack up kills.

    At MSI everyone talked about how TSM underperformed, and sure they didn't play that great, but at the same time they got exposed. Since Bjergsen had to go against actual good mid laners, they couldn't rely on him to just hard carry. I remember WildTurtle kept having 3v2 situations, and he would flat out lose. Also Dyrus might be just okay, but if you put him on tilt, he just goes full potato. TSM might have been the best in NA during the spring split, but teams were making huge roster changes, and Hai was at the end of his career, so they were basically the top of a bunch of sh*t tier NA teams, which massively inflated how good NA fans thought they were.

    Guarantee if there was a tournament right now with the current Fnatic and Origen rosters + all the top teams in Korea + China, TSM would get rekt again like at MSI.
    And yet, they're still the best NA has, which is really disappointing. It certainly isn't CLG, C9 looks flat-out bad right now, and Liquid just threw that game away by blowing their hard CC on anybody BUT Bjergsen (including a couple of solo Sej/Annie ults on an Alistar).

    Think about it. Bjerg had no cleanse, no Mikael's, and no tenacity, against a Sejuani/Annie with distortion boots, and a Rumble that can toss his ult from miles away. The fact that he wasn't stunned and blown up EVERY SINGLE FIGHT is ****ing embarrassing.
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    Originally Posted by ho_124 View Post
    It's pretty painful how reliant TSM is on Bjergsen to hard carry them every single time. Also WildTurtle is a sh*t tier ADC and has been for a long time, even with the best support in NA, he still consistently loses lane and doesn't do much, unless TSM is super far ahead and he can just rack up kills.

    At MSI everyone talked about how TSM underperformed, and sure they didn't play that great, but at the same time they got exposed. Since Bjergsen had to go against actual good mid laners, they couldn't rely on him to just hard carry. I remember WildTurtle kept having 3v2 situations, and he would flat out lose. Also Dyrus might be just okay, but if you put him on tilt, he just goes full potato. TSM might have been the best in NA during the spring split, but teams were making huge roster changes, and Hai was at the end of his career, so they were basically the top of a bunch of sh*t tier NA teams, which massively inflated how good NA fans thought they were.

    Guarantee if there was a tournament right now with the current Fnatic and Origen rosters + all the top teams in Korea + China, TSM would get rekt again like at MSI.
    I've been a TSM fan since S2 but I'm close to just saying fuk it and start rooting for a KR team, NA is really looking lackluster this split.

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    Originally Posted by Ishkandir View Post
    And yet, they're still the best NA has, which is really disappointing. It certainly isn't CLG, C9 looks flat-out bad right now, and Liquid just threw that game away by blowing their hard CC on anybody BUT Bjergsen (including a couple of solo Sej/Annie ults on an Alistar).

    Think about it. Bjerg had no cleanse, no Mikael's, and no tenacity, against a Sejuani/Annie with distortion boots, and a Rumble that can toss his ult from miles away. The fact that he wasn't stunned and blown up EVERY SINGLE FIGHT is ****ing embarrassing.
    theyre definitely not the best NA has

    I would put CLG in front of tsm this split, wish they would invest in a better jungler though, they can do much better than xmithie

    i think dig also has potential to surpass tsm, by the end of the season i would rate NA: clg > dig > tsm > liquid/gravity > tip > the rest

    i wouldnt peg any na team to make it out of groups at an international event at the moment, EU has much better contenders fnatic/h2k/origen are competitors to lpl/lck top teams
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    Originally Posted by NegativeZero View Post
    I've been a TSM fan since S2 but I'm close to just saying fuk it and start rooting for a KR team, NA is really looking lackluster this split.

    I love Turtle, he's a good ADC but he's pretty hyphy. But that's why I love him.

    I wish they would re run LCK games so I could watch them

    NA is pretty much a joke right now


    I wonder what the NA scene will be like after they get dumpstered at this world championships.... again..
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    Originally Posted by Improve573 View Post
    theyre definitely not the best NA has

    I would put CLG in front of tsm this split, wish they would invest in a better jungler though, they can do much better than xmithie

    i think dig also has potential to surpass tsm, by the end of the season i would rate NA: clg > dig > tsm > liquid/gravity > tip > the rest

    i wouldnt peg any na team to make it out of groups at an international event at the moment, EU has much better contenders fnatic/h2k/origen are competitors to lpl/lck top teams
    CLG always chokes in tournaments and I just have this feeling that since everyone is so inconsistent right now that DIG is thriving in the split. If those were the 2 teams from NA to go to world's we'd be fukt as a region lol.

    Idk what's going on with TSM, I think they're trying too hard to emulate Korean/Chinese picks/comps and it's just not working for them. They need to work on their own kind of meta and roll with that. The innovators will always be the top teams because everyone else has to adapt with what they're bringing to the table. Sadly Korea, China, and to an extent EU are the only ones doing that.
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    Originally Posted by LOLYEPP View Post
    I wish they would re run LCK games so I could watch them

    NA is pretty much a joke right now


    I wonder what the NA scene will be like after they get dumpstered at this world championships.... again..
    All the LCK matches are on youtube.
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    Originally Posted by vvvaaa View Post
    All the LCK matches are on youtube.
    yeah but when they on youtrube i always skip most the game
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    Originally Posted by Improve573 View Post
    theyre definitely not the best NA has

    I would put CLG in front of tsm this split, wish they would invest in a better jungler though, they can do much better than xmithie

    i think dig also has potential to surpass tsm, by the end of the season i would rate NA: clg > dig > tsm > liquid/gravity > tip > the rest

    i wouldnt peg any na team to make it out of groups at an international event at the moment, EU has much better contenders fnatic/h2k/origen are competitors to lpl/lck top teams
    Careful with ranking CLG as the top team. They do this literally every split, get the top spot, then go on tilt hard during a BO5 and almost get relegated. They might be good in BO1, but their BO5 is terrible, and they are one of the most tilty teams in NA.
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