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    Scivation Xtend warning?

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    This has probably been asked before but I can see on the label on the Xtend that there is a warning that says it can cause cancer ;((( - Is this this really the case? If so I dunno whether to use my Xtend or not ;((((
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    does not cause cancer but according to CA prop 65 everything is labeled that way.
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    thx for the reply man - tho Im still not sure whether its unhealthy then? I mean see its cauz of a very strict limit and the limit is ther because of a reason I guess? Or will it only harm me if I overdose the **** like hell ?
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    I suggest you read this. will give you the whole break down on what prop 65 is all about.
    http://www.prop65clearinghouse.com/p...n-english.html
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    Thx man! that helped a lot actually - I see that I shouldnt really worry about it with those dosages that I get from taking 1 or 2 scoops xtend a day
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    Originally Posted by Zariph View Post
    Thx man! that helped a lot actually - I see that I shouldnt really worry about it with those dosages that I get from taking 1 or 2 scoops xtend a day
    Your welcome! all the best with your fitness goals~
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    Thanks emergency <3

    Op there are no ingredients to worry about, it's just so that we can have one level and still sell the products in California, it's a compliance thing and you will eventually see all companies do this, it is on everything that's sold in California if it's compliant. Even mouse pads, and office chairs and and and...

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    Originally Posted by emergency View Post
    does not cause cancer but according to CA prop 65 everything is labeled that way.
    No its fine...
    Read above.

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    thx for the reply man - tho Im still not sure whether its unhealthy then?
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    Thx for your answers guys
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    In a previous thread, there is also a post from Mike McCandless explaining Prop 65, taking it seriously and saying that such labeling is not mandatory; only contingent on not meeting specified testing:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post995567863

    I'm not sure that the OP's concern can be so easily swept under the rug.
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    Originally Posted by lazymuchacho View Post
    In a previous thread, there is also a post from Mike McCandless explaining Prop 65, taking it seriously and saying that such labeling is not mandatory; only contingent on not meeting specified testing:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post995567863

    I'm not sure that the OP's concern can be so easily swept under the rug.
    thanks but if you checked out the link I posted we already got this covered.
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    Originally Posted by Zariph View Post
    Hey

    This has probably been asked before but I can see on the label on the Xtend that there is a warning that says it can cause cancer ;((( - Is this this really the case? If so I dunno whether to use my Xtend or not ;((((

    California laws, and Xtend's quality is top notch.
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    thanks everyone for clarifying prop 65 labeling to the OP. and thank you OP for using xtend! As mentioned, you are more than fine taking xtend
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    I don't understand this warming label. I mean, i'm sure its there to cover up their asses for sure, but there is no smoke without fire. You tell me that this is a label for supplements to be sold in California, ok i get it, but out of many supplements JUST A FEW have this warning...why?

    Also, Mike McCandless , on his post here, http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post936519333 , he said:

    To pass a Prop 65 test, the product must be under these levels:

    a. Arsenic (As) = NMT 10 mcg/d

    b. Cadmium (Cd) = NMT 4.1 mcg/d

    c. Lead (Pb) = NMT 0.5 mcg/d

    d. Mercury (Hg) = NMT 0.3 mcg/d

    Xtend does, that's why we don't have to put a prop 65 warning on it. Our BCAA's are made specifically for us, we don't buy generic supplier material as it didn't meet our specs. As far as label claims, here are two independent tests. Product bought from bb.com, sent directly to chromadex and tested. With Xtend, you get what you pay for.
    Meaning, since they added the label, most likely didn't pass the test.
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    could be the coloring that is in a product.

    go to this link and has the complete list for prop 65 http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/prop65_list/newlist.html
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    could be the coloring that is in a product.

    go to this link and has the complete list for prop 65 http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/prop65_list/newlist.html
    It could, yes, meaning that other BCAAs that don't have that label they use better coloring? Makes no-sense...if it was such a simple ingredient as coloring, they would have changed it right away...Also they could tell the world what is that ingredient, so we can know

    i have been using xtend a lot, but never read that label (yes dumbish of me). now that i read about it i'm very skeptical about purchasing that again...since i it seems that there are many BCAAs out there that do not have that label, which according to the CEO of Scivation, is mandatory if the product doesn't pass the test...
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    If you live or visit California, you will get cancer.
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    If you live or visit California, you will get cancer.
    not sure whats the point of such a comment
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    Originally Posted by gmaister22 View Post
    not sure whats the point of such a comment
    prop 65, in California everything is labeled with a cancer warning. Furniture, patio furniture, plates , beds, cups, seat covers, cooking pans, food , make up, tooth paste. So many warnings they have become point less.
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    prop 65, in California everything is labeled with a cancer warning. Furniture, patio furniture, plates , beds, cups, seat covers, cooking pans, food , make up, tooth paste. So many warnings they have become point less.
    Accepted, why isn't PROP65 on other products? Can't see prop 65 on other major companies in the supplement and not only industry...

    So my assumption would be since they include it, they include it for a reason, it didnt pass the prop 65 safety test...
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    Originally Posted by gmaister22 View Post
    Accepted, why isn't PROP65 on other products? Can't see prop 65 on other major companies in the supplement and not only industry...

    So my assumption would be since they include it, they include it for a reason, it didnt pass the prop 65 safety test...
    That would be an incorrect assumption
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    Originally Posted by ScivationLead View Post
    That would be an incorrect assumption
    Why is that? Explain please
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    Originally Posted by gmaister22 View Post
    Why is that?
    Because the product did not fail a prop 65 safety test
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    Originally Posted by ScivationLead View Post
    Because the product did not fail a prop 65 safety test
    If the product did not fail a prop 65 safety test, why do you have that label? It's not mandatory to have if it has passed the test.....
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    On that old label we recommended up to 4 doses, at which point it crossed the threshold. At 1-2 servings it is fine. New label does not have the warning on it as we don't recommend a ton of servings.

    Anything that comes from the ground violates prop 65. A lot of companies don't have it on their product for the same reason they don't follow other rules. There are blatant violators but is what it is. It is a California specific law that has no founding in science.

    We use Xtend in cancer studies. We are the only bcaa that has NSF for sport and informed choice. Our quality is top notch.

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    Originally Posted by Mike McCandless View Post
    On that old label we recommended up to 4 doses, at which point it crossed the threshold. At 1-2 servings it is fine. New label does not have the warning on it as we don't recommend a ton of servings.

    Anything that comes from the ground violates prop 65. A lot of companies don't have it on their product for the same reason they don't follow other rules. There are blatant violators but is what it is. It is a California specific law that has no founding in science.

    We use Xtend in cancer studies. We are the only bcaa that has NSF for sport and informed choice. Our quality is top notch.

    It's my bday, so I'm done for awhile. Hope this answers any questions you guys have.
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