Official League of Legends Thread: Trolls and AFK's Galore PART II

[L0GiK]

How can people say jung is at its weakest point ever right now? Seems to me the jungler makes the biggest difference in almost every single game right now...

They have a godly lee sin/jarv that snowballs all lanes and you have a **** jung? It's over already. Can't even count the number of times where the jung has decided the outcome of the game before 15 min.

Season 4 was a strong season for jungle diversity, now theres 2 or 3 good junglers. Rest have to try so hard to just to even out. Haven't played much in season 5 but Diana felt pretty meh in the jungle at the start of the season and jungle's only gotten worse, happy to just watch LCS atm. Foxdrop puts it quite well though.

[MIRINLEWL]

slowly climbing out of elohell

[ho_124]

Seems lately Riot has been going full potato with their balancing changes. Three of the champions they've nerfed in the last couple patches have dropped to less than 38% win rate. It's strange how they knew the nerfs they were handing out would absolutely gut/kill the champion, yet they still went through with it. Like the Kass and Azir nerfs, how did they not know those changes would murder the champs and make them unplayable? Weirdest one was the Veigar nerfs, who was suppose to receive compensation for DFG removal, but gets a huge nerf instead.

It's pretty obvious they are biased towards certain champs. I mean Zed has been a strong pick with a decent ban rate for a while now and they said they were looking to take away some of his power. Then what do they do? Take .014 off his base attack speed and nerf his AS scaling by 1 every level, which isn't even what makes him strong. Then they decide to buff Nidalee, when she wasn't even in need of any buffs.

And these jungle changes... I don't even know where to start. Saying they want to promote jungle diversity for what, a year now? And making changes that do exactly the opposite of that.

Not to mention they haven't even touched Irelia even though she's been ridiculously strong for more than half a year now and her kit is overloaded.

[NillaWafer]

Seems lately Riot has been going full potato with their balancing changes. Three of the champions they've nerfed in the last couple patches have dropped to less than 38% win rate. It's strange how they knew the nerfs they were handing out would absolutely gut/kill the champion, yet they still went through with it. Like the Kass and Azir nerfs, how did they not know those changes would murder the champs and make them unplayable? Weirdest one was the Veigar nerfs, who was suppose to receive compensation for DFG removal, but gets a huge nerf instead.

It's pretty obvious they are biased towards certain champs. I mean Zed has been a strong pick with a decent ban rate for a while now and they said they were looking to take away some of his power. Then what do they do? Take .014 off his base attack speed and nerf his AS scaling by 1 every level, which isn't even what makes him strong. Then they decide to buff Nidalee, when she wasn't even in need of any buffs.

And these jungle changes... I don't even know where to start. Saying they want to promote jungle diversity for what, a year now? And making changes that do exactly the opposite of that.

Not to mention they haven't even touched Irelia even though she's been ridiculously strong for more than half a year now and her kit is overloaded.

Riot tries to balance around pro games now which is why veigar got absolutely destroyed. Koreans started using veigar as support and he was single handedly winning games because of that bs stun. The problem is, taking away the insta-stun makes veigar unbelievably useless. I mean he can never land his W now.

Kass and Azir really needed nerfs but I agree that rito went overboard. Zed is strong, but nerfing him isn't the solution. He's one of the most balanced assassins imo.

Also, see this for irelia.

[ho_124]

Riot tries to balance around pro games now which is why veigar got absolutely destroyed. Koreans started using veigar as support and he was single handedly winning games because of that bs stun. The problem is, taking away the insta-stun makes veigar unbelievably useless. I mean he can never land his W now.

Kass and Azir really needed nerfs but I agree that rito went overboard. Zed is strong, but nerfing him isn't the solution. He's one of the most balanced assassins imo.

Also, see this for irelia.

Haha, saw that Irelia vid. Also about Veigar, yea he's been doing well as support in Korea, but the way they went about it was so lazy. His stun is what makes the champion, and having that delay in his Event Horizon completely killed Veigar. Seems like they just want to neuter strong picks so they don't have to deal with it.

[NillaWafer]

Haha, saw that Irelia vid. Also about Veigar, yea he's been doing well as support in Korea, but the way they went about it was so lazy. His stun is what makes the champion, and having that delay in his Event Horizon completely killed Veigar. Seems like they just want to neuter strong picks so they don't have to deal with it.

I think they are trying to get rid of as many point and click stuns as possible. Rito's idea of 'counterplay' is being able to dodge skillshots. Wouldn't be surprised if annie/liss stun got nerfed hard soon.

[ralphlaurenbrah]

I think they are trying to get rid of as many point and click stuns as possible. Rito's idea of 'counterplay' is being able to dodge skillshots. Wouldn't be surprised if annie/liss stun got nerfed hard soon.

The problem is that everyone dies too fast in this game. So if you land a single stun you pretty much win the fight. They need to make fights take longer but also make assassins still viable so give them a little bit more sustained damage.

[ho_124]

I think they are trying to get rid of as many point and click stuns as possible. Rito's idea of 'counterplay' is being able to dodge skillshots. Wouldn't be surprised if annie/liss stun got nerfed hard soon.

Liss definitely deserves some nerfs though, she's ridiculous right now. In the LCS her record is something like 12-1, and the one game that was lost on her, Link threw so hard by ulting himself and hitting no one. Her kit is just too overloaded, she's got massive reliable CC + lockdown potential as well as the ability to burst someone down 100-0 pretty easily. She's also good decent mobility + initiation potential and the ability to be invulnerable with Zhonyas for 5 seconds. They either have to tone down her CC, or her damage/burst, b/c having both means she can just do too much right now.

[VTheKing]

Liss definitely deserves some nerfs though, she's ridiculous right now. In the LCS her record is something like 12-1, and the one game that was lost on her, Link threw so hard by ulting himself and hitting no one. Her kit is just too overloaded, she's got massive reliable CC + lockdown potential as well as the ability to burst someone down 100-0 pretty easily. She's also good decent mobility + initiation potential and the ability to be invulnerable with Zhonyas for 5 seconds. They either have to tone down her CC, or her damage/burst, b/c having both means she can just do too much right now.

9-11 in EU LCS play

Her ult makes initiation super easy though, we might see a Veigar-like nerf to it in the future.

[NillaWafer]

The problem is that everyone dies too fast in this game. So if you land a single stun you pretty much win the fight. They need to make fights take longer but also make assassins still viable so give them a little bit more sustained damage.

ya, and it's easy to chain cc once 1 stun lands

Liss definitely deserves some nerfs though, she's ridiculous right now. In the LCS her record is something like 12-1, and the one game that was lost on her, Link threw so hard by ulting himself and hitting no one. Her kit is just too overloaded, she's got massive reliable CC + lockdown potential as well as the ability to burst someone down 100-0 pretty easily. She's also good decent mobility + initiation potential and the ability to be invulnerable with Zhonyas for 5 seconds. They either have to tone down her CC, or her damage/burst, b/c having both means she can just do too much right now.

agreed, especially since she bullies every top laner right now

[ralphlaurenbrah]

Anyone play on LAN? I need people to play with... no one plays on there except me when it's 100x better than NA.

Add me on LAN: idrinkcrudeoill (2 l's at the end)

[NergoMan]

slowly climbing out of elohell

elohell is a myth stop being such a ****ing ****lord you dumbass and carry yourself out I'm masters bruh look me up 'Tonington' ***got get g00d

[UnflappedAcorn]

Liss definitely deserves some nerfs though, she's ridiculous right now. In the LCS her record is something like 12-1, and the one game that was lost on her, Link threw so hard by ulting himself and hitting no one. Her kit is just too overloaded, she's got massive reliable CC + lockdown potential as well as the ability to burst someone down 100-0 pretty easily. She's also good decent mobility + initiation potential and the ability to be invulnerable with Zhonyas for 5 seconds. They either have to tone down her CC, or her damage/burst, b/c having both means she can just do too much right now.

They are nerfing her

Ice Shard (Q) damage lowered to 70/100/130/160/190 from 75/110/145/180/215

A whole 5 dmg at level 1 and a dorians rings difference late game.

[Actonspur]

Rekkles lost bot so hard. I was just waiting "any minute now he'll start making up for the lost gold" but all he did was let the margin grow and grow and grow. And that was the same thing with the other lanes. They were very passive because of the SK burst potential and just hoped they'd hit a power spike which they never did. Forg1ven just took every single shot he could and kept bottom for himself.

Krepo lost bot hard

Lol is so snowballey now - whoever gets level 2 first just has such an advantage.

Krepo late to lane, late to level 2, get chunked down when sk hit level 2 first and bot lane over.

Now way you can give forgiven that much of an advantage

[KramericaInd]

anyone up for duo queue? silver something

[ulio]

I just started playing ranked this season, last season i got gold 1. right now im in silver 1 but everyone in my team is gold or plat border srsly i cant believe how bad people are. Yes i get some games where I feed but most times i win my lane as adc. My team decides to stay too long or make terrible calls in general and throw any lead i have over the enemy adc.

What are some good champions for adc right now? I played sivir a bit but i think shes better in competitive than solo q. Corki is fun to play but a lot of games in soloq tend to go forever and his late game is ass. Last season i played a lot of tristana when she was broken and bit of ezreal.

[ho_124]

I just started playing ranked this season, last season i got gold 1. right now im in silver 1 but everyone in my team is gold or plat border srsly i cant believe how bad people are. Yes i get some games where I feed but most times i win my lane as adc. My team decides to stay too long or make terrible calls in general and throw any lead i have over the enemy adc.

What are some good champions for adc right now? I played sivir a bit but i think shes better in competitive than solo q. Corki is fun to play but a lot of games in soloq tend to go forever and his late game is ass. Last season i played a lot of tristana when she was broken and bit of ezreal.

Graves and Corki probably strongest right now. Graves is great in for solo q b/c his high burst.

[str3zz]

I just feel bad for Team Coast now. It's almost like no matter what they do or try they will never win unless the other team completely messes up.

[mystic0608]

I just feel bad for Team Coast now. It's almost like no matter what they do or try they will never win unless the other team completely messes up.

i dont really sympathize with them considering all of them are lacking individually. perhaps mancloud would be doing better considering he was one of the best mid laners in lcs a couple splits ago. it seems to me that their team doesnt have synergy, both game synergy and friendship synergy.

also i saw some toxicity out of coast's bot lane in solo q once. another reason why i dont support them.

aside from that, i always like seeing the underdog come out on top

[UnflappedAcorn]

I think i have a man crush on lustboy. He's always smiling no matter what. Its so cute.

[YellowOnYellow]

The whole LCS is f*cking cringeworthy bunch of autistic virgins that do nothing but play video games all day what do you expect?

This. Lol awkward looking at them walk, run, talk, and touch other people. Sadly I'm here watching them tho.

[Ishkandir]

I just started playing ranked this season, last season i got gold 1. right now im in silver 1 but everyone in my team is gold or plat border srsly i cant believe how bad people are. Yes i get some games where I feed but most times i win my lane as adc. My team decides to stay too long or make terrible calls in general and throw any lead i have over the enemy adc.

What are some good champions for adc right now? I played sivir a bit but i think shes better in competitive than solo q. Corki is fun to play but a lot of games in soloq tend to go forever and his late game is ass. Last season i played a lot of tristana when she was broken and bit of ezreal.

Jinx carries the hardest late-game, but she's a very difficult champion to play against the current meta. Jarvan/Vi can lock her up very easily, and a handful of current mid-laners can instantly kill her off of that (Lissandra, Zed, LeBlanc, Xerath). If you can farm up and stay safe, then you'll be poised to carry any given teamfight once you get your 3rd item

[VTheKing]

i think I'm better at peeling than engaging

[CanadianSpartan]

I just started playing ranked this season, last season i got gold 1. right now im in silver 1 but everyone in my team is gold or plat border srsly i cant believe how bad people are. Yes i get some games where I feed but most times i win my lane as adc. My team decides to stay too long or make terrible calls in general and throw any lead i have over the enemy adc.

What are some good champions for adc right now? I played sivir a bit but i think shes better in competitive than solo q. Corki is fun to play but a lot of games in soloq tend to go forever and his late game is ass. Last season i played a lot of tristana when she was broken and bit of ezreal.

Sivir is actually really strong in solo queue atm. The reason is because of the other guy that answered you. Basically the most fought over adc's atm is Corki and Graves. Sivir beats them both in lane. And if you are any good at the game her ult can win you yolo queue games. The biggest issue with some adc's not being able to carry is teams not initiating well. With Sivir you can be in charge of that, and if you are good it will increase your chances at winning by a good shot.
Jinx is really strong right now as well. With J4 getting nerfed and not being played as much she is fairly easy to do well with if you have good positioning.

Corki and Graves are both really strong as well. As the old saying goes win lane win game. Also don't under estimate his passive. He may not be a Jinx or Vayne, but his late game is nothing to scoff at. 10% true damage of his ad on basic attacks shred tanks.

i think I'm better at peeling than engaging

Nah, that's just Janna. In general most people die a lot less on her then anyone else, her kit is stacked for staying alive.

[VTheKing]

Nah, that's just Janna. In general most people die a lot less on her then anyone else, her kit is stacked for staying alive.

I know Janna does better KDA wise due to survivability + freebies from passive, but I still found the huge differences and how they relate to their kits pretty funny.

[ralphlaurenbrah]

Blows my mind how people in Plat 1+ can suck so ****ing much with Leona. She is soooo ****ing easy to play and destroy games with.

Hell even the LCS players are legit TRASH with her. I've seen at least 5 games this split where people miss 60%+ of their ults with her. I'm talking don't even hit one person. Honestly it's pathetic. That and even in the LCS they take the worst engages with her and their whole team gets destroyed. I don't understand.

[L0GiK]

I know Janna does better KDA wise due to survivability + freebies from passive, but I still found the huge differences and how they relate to their kits pretty funny.

You die more on champs that have to jump into the middle of the fight than a champ that stays on the edges and peels, go figure .

[mystic0608]

anyone on their friendslist an elo digger?

have a chick that mains support on my friendslist that is currently diamond fuking 4. she got there by duo'ing with an ex-challenger fiddle main. basically uses sex appeal to get him to duo with him(nudes, flirting, etc...) shes tried the same thing with me but im against elo boosting in this form. dont get me wrong, she has definitely improved from 2 years ago, but shes still low plat level in terms of skill imo.

remember those kids that are high elo(plat-diamond) that miss every ult or die a retarded amount of times in retarded ways and you think to yourself "theres no way this guy/girl is supposed to be in this elo." yeah, that's her

just wanted to rant. just makes me rage when i put into so much effort getting high elo and then this chick comes along and gets carried to my elo range

[ralphlaurenbrah]

anyone on their friendslist an elo digger?

have a chick that mains support on my friendslist that is currently diamond fuking 4. she got there by duo'ing with an ex-challenger fiddle main. basically uses sex appeal to get him to duo with him(nudes, flirting, etc...) shes tried the same thing with me but im against elo boosting in this form. dont get me wrong, she has definitely improved from 2 years ago, but shes still low plat level in terms of skill imo.

remember those kids that are high elo(plat-diamond) that miss every ult or die a retarded amount of times in retarded ways and you think to yourself "theres no way this guy/girl is supposed to be in this elo." yeah, that's her

just wanted to rant. just makes me rage when i put into so much effort getting high elo and then this chick comes along and gets carried to my elo range

Lol if you're this salty about her getting freelo for having a pussy, just wait until you discover the benefits women get IRL. BRB never working because I was born with a hole in between my legs the size of a quarter.

[Horizon92]

sup brahs need someone to duoq with somewhat regularly. Currently G5 after going full tilt mode from g2 in like two weeks fml, now im playing with silver scrubs and I need to get out quick. I'm on EUW. PM