I've fuking had it with a 9-5 office job and a "career". But I don't know what to do

[JHowRides2Night]

Cables not bad. I install cable in people's homes and apartments. You don't need any schooling, just on the job training. The pay is decent, it's easy to get time off, and you get to work on your own without a boss micromanaging you.

[CitizenVagrant]

During lunch breaks all my colleagues talk about how we're going to take our department and the whole company "to the next level", how all of us are going to evolve our careers, etc. and I'm just sitting there thinking "I don't give a chit, lisa". I don't give a chit about any of those things, neither do I care about any of you braindead mother****ers and your retarded ambitions. I just want to live and do something that doesn't want to make me put a bullet in my head. I'd rather do some physical labour and work as a part time PT on the weekends or something, than create any more Macros/VBAs and maintain SAP tasks.

If listening to Frank Yang all these years has taught me anything, it's that people who get chit done don't just talk about it on the internet, they phucking do it, a-la the end of Frank's bulk from Brad Pitt mode to what he is now where he was slamming 10k calorie days.

I know there are a lot of guys on here in a similar position. How do you cope with this? What are your plans to escape this ****?

Coping is biting the pillow while life phucks you in the ass.

Escaping or doing something about it is different entirely. Escaping would imply escaping TO somewhere, and unless you have a direction, you aren't going to go far.

If your goal is freedom, I'd say do what makes the most money. With enough money, you can (mostly) buy your freedom. If the goal is something else specific like helping people or following an ideal - that again is a different story.

[Sebt1890]

after working in the military and in the film industry where hours are long and can go all night I want a 9-5 job where I get paid well. Hell, I'll get to come home and have time to see my family and kids which is what matters. Along with a good gym session.

I don't have a family yet but that's my reason for wanting a 9-5.

[Destor]

The most ****ed up thing in all this is, my ideal of happiness is hanging out and doing stuff with friends, but they're all caught up in the same 9-5 routine so I'd just sit at home alone all day if I'd quit mine.

Also like someone mentioned, it makes the world of difference if you have cool coworkers or not. That you would actually hang out with outside of work.

You want to not work and spend all day hanging out and doing stuff with friends? That's what childhood is for bro.



I've worked a lot of chitty jobs in my day, and sitting in an office in front of a computer isn't one of them. Have you picked orders in a massive freezer? How about packing 20KG bags of humalite all day long? Brb spending all day in a tented area packing material into bags that have a cancer warning on them.


You should go work some crap labor jobs just so you can appreciate what you have now.

[Huyistic]

I am so not looking forward to the 9-5 shiiiit.

[Auxe]

Feels, will rep later

[dlagr21]

I'm about to lose my god damn mind brahs. It seems like every job I got since graduating a few years ago, is more dull and boring then the previous one. I don't know how much more I can take. Today I blandly stared at my screen for like 20 minutes and I was so close to break down and cry. srs.

During lunch breaks all my colleagues talk about how we're going to take our department and the whole company "to the next level", how all of us are going to evolve our careers, etc. and I'm just sitting there thinking "I don't give a chit, lisa". I don't give a chit about any of those things, neither do I care about any of you braindead mother****ers and your retarded ambitions. I just want to live and do something that doesn't want to make me put a bullet in my head. I'd rather do some physical labour and work as a part time PT on the weekends or something, than create any more Macros/VBAs and maintain SAP tasks.

But what can I do? I'm just a stupid office/management drone. I'm not particularly good at anything. I never learned a trade, just worked dozens of chitty ass jobs through high school and college. I feel like I totally wasted my teens and early 20s away by not learning something that could've actually helped me to do my own thing now.

I know there are a lot of guys on here in a similar position. How do you cope with this? What are your plans to escape this ****?

I'm in the same boat brah, considering moving out west and finding a job near the mountains or going to Europe for a few months. Gotta free your mind, find out what it is you want and do it. You only got one life to live, better to do what you want and be at peace with yourself rather then be a mindless sheep punching a time clock.

[CitizenVagrant]

You should go work some crap labor jobs just so you can appreciate what you have now.

One breaks your body, the other tortures your mind.

Just depends on which one you want broken first.

[adamw5963]

I know what you mean op. I'm currently sitting at my desk now bored as hell. It's kind of sad but I always wanted to be a UPS driver just so I could be out and about lol

[Rayaarito]

My life was pretty good otherwise so I figured out what I could do to set myself apart from others and used that to make the most of my days - dressed a little better, shaved more often, asked what I could do to help out at the office or if I could take on any further responsibilities, talked to more people at work and tried to learn more about what the company stood for and what they wanted in their top employees, even if I didn't really care all that much for it. Doing this - interacting and participating in my day to day - changed everything and not only did I enjoy my days more, but I got promoted, eventually landing in a very decent sales role.

Isn't this depressing? Dressing up for something you know you don't like? Isn't it unfulfilling? Srs. No offense to you, but as a young brethern looking on, I would NOT want to be in those shoes. Honestly gives me motivation to not procrastinate in my work/studies

[Rayaarito]

I was never able to be a happy person while maintaining full-time employment. I knew this early on. So I dedicated my 20's to money. I worked 90 hours a week minimum from 22-29.

Eventually I was able to start my own company and sold it recently. I was able to achieve my dream and retire young.

If you know that you'll never be happy unless your time is your own, embrace this truth and dedicate your life to money. Might as well work 90 hours a week if working 40 in an office sucks the life out of you. Dedicate your being to figuring out a way to make serious paper.

GL

Book: The way of the superior man
Chapter: Do it for love

� The way a man penetrates the world should be the same way he penetrates his woman: not merely for personal gain or pleasure, but to magnify love, openness , and depth."
� There are two ways to deal with woman and world without compromising your true gifts or dribbling away the force of your deep being.

o One way is to renounce sexual intimacy and worldliness, totally dedicating yourself without distraction or compromise to the path you choose to pursue, free of the seemingly constant demands of woman and world.

o The other way is to �****� both to smithereens, to ravish them with your love unsheathed, to give your true gifts despite the constant tussle of woman and world.

 Hold nothing back

Was taking notes on this book while reading and what you said reminded me of this.

[CanardLaque]

This is actually a good thing that's happening to you.

Unlike the others at your job, you have realized that you don't want to waste your time in there, they can throw another 10k on your salary, it might sound good for a while but you'll realize quickly it's not worth it.

Get out there, do something more rewarding.

[pablocai]

holy mother of feels, so much feels


working everyday in the same fuking office, with the same fuking people...

[lockdev]

Cables not bad. I install cable in people's homes and apartments. You don't need any schooling, just on the job training. The pay is decent, it's easy to get time off, and you get to work on your own without a boss micromanaging you.

This Opie.

Did that chit for 4 years back in my early 20's. Most shifts are 4 days on, 10 hour days, so you always get 3 day weekends.

Job literally never got old. It was always something new, and you were always going to new places.

That "staring at the clock until 5" didn't exist with that job.

Pay is also very nice. Was paid 50k/year back in 2007 to be an internet/phone/cable tech.

[trailless]

Oh really, want to trade? I work 10-12 hours a day most days for 7 days a week. Mirin? Somedays I only work about 7 hours because I get to go to the gym before work but most days I only get to lift after work....

Some days I just want to ride away down the highway.

[ryantatarniuk]

GL HF op

All these guys talk about leaving the grind but rarely anyone actually does it and is successful

I mean, you could always just be homeless

[JazB]

For the life of me, I cannot fathom the concept of a 'career' either. I just don't see the point. Either go hard or go home. slave away on your own biz, will be a lot of pain but worth it in the end. or just get a steady, simple job and live the basic/humble life. both are great. but why take the worst from both?

inb4 'age:22 you know nothing'

[Love-Feet]

Book: The way of the superior man
Chapter: Do it for love

• The way a man penetrates the world should be the same way he penetrates his woman: not merely for personal gain or pleasure, but to magnify love, openness , and depth."
• There are two ways to deal with woman and world without compromising your true gifts or dribbling away the force of your deep being.

o One way is to renounce sexual intimacy and worldliness, totally dedicating yourself without distraction or compromise to the path you choose to pursue, free of the seemingly constant demands of woman and world.

o The other way is to “****” both to smithereens, to ravish them with your love unsheathed, to give your true gifts despite the constant tussle of woman and world.

 Hold nothing back

Was taking notes on this book while reading and what you said reminded me of this.

fukcin miscers, what sort of kunt reads a book like that

[FeaRaLiS]

after working in the military and in the film industry where hours are long and can go all night I want a 9-5 job where I get paid well. Hell, I'll get to come home and have time to see my family and kids which is what matters. Along with a good gym session.

I don't have a family yet but that's my reason for wanting a 9-5.

I feel like people will never be "truly" happy with what they have because the grass is always greener on the other side. I think you got the right idea though doing it for your family. Some people have already put in their time doing labor, long hours, minimal pay for what they do, etc. and want to settle for the 9-5. Honestly, the 9-5 isn't that bad of a choice because it doesn't phuck your body up assuming you don't let your body go. Some people are employees and want to open up their own business. Then they get one started and realize they have to put in 10x more work because it consumes your ass. Owners/CEO's and chit on some days just want to be employees because they are fed up with the responsibilities and long ass hours. 9-5 want a labor job until they realize they go home every night physically broken etc. etc. etc.

[N0rds]

i got a job at a sugar factory.. making $50k this year, enjoy my job.. it all turned out OK

Crystal in Moorhead? Place always looked interesting. Explored around (aka drifting cars) the beet piles one night while bored in college. Stupid things don't taste very good.

[CannibalJester]

you're drones anyway

[CarbDerpetion]

I feel ya on this one OP
I had and still do have a lot of passion for what I do...
...but even the monotonous grind + same environment can get to u

just know u r not alone and fellow brahs are fighting it out there too

in aesthetics we trust

[SkylineCrash]

I feel like people will never be "truly" happy with what they have because the grass is always greener on the other side. I think you got the right idea though doing it for your family. Some people have already put in their time doing labor, long hours, minimal pay for what they do, etc. and want to settle for the 9-5. Honestly, the 9-5 isn't that bad of a choice because it doesn't phuck your body up assuming you don't let your body go. Some people are employees and want to open up their own business. Then they get one started and realize they have to put in 10x more work because it consumes your ass. Owners/CEO's and chit on some days just want to be employees because they are fed up with the responsibilities and long ass hours. 9-5 want a labor job until they realize they go home every night physically broken etc. etc. etc.

Depends. CEOs and owners of a large corporation probably have it the easiest. Everything is already set for them and all they gotta do is chill. In the beginning of the company, they work long hours.

[Solbrah]

People have been doing this since the dawn of civilization. No matter what you do in life, you're gonna have to eat chit sandwiches. Sometimes you have the chance to pick your favorite flavor of chit sandwich, but often times you can't. People have been working for nothing just to survive for a very long time. See it as a positive thing. You work those chit hours, come home with money in your pocket, which you can save up and go travel, skiing, chill with your boys on the weekends, do something you love, etc. You work so you can get time to do things you love. You think celebrities enjoy being hounded 24/7? Actors working 16 hours a day? No, but they have to tell us that they "enjoy their work" despite being treated like slaves because otherwise we would rage at them for being ungrateful. Notice that actors dont go home and "act" on their free time. They do some **** that they truly, truly enjoy.I guarantee you will get used to working.

[Sebt1890]

I feel like people will never be "truly" happy with what they have because the grass is always greener on the other side. I think you got the right idea though doing it for your family. Some people have already put in their time doing labor, long hours, minimal pay for what they do, etc. and want to settle for the 9-5. Honestly, the 9-5 isn't that bad of a choice because it doesn't phuck your body up assuming you don't let your body go. Some people are employees and want to open up their own business. Then they get one started and realize they have to put in 10x more work because it consumes your ass. Owners/CEO's and chit on some days just want to be employees because they are fed up with the responsibilities and long ass hours. 9-5 want a labor job until they realize they go home every night physically broken etc. etc. etc.

I've been fortunate enough to see what doing manual labor and having a reg 9-5 is like from my dad and uncle.

My dad works in the parts department at his dealership and has busted his ass to provide for my family. I've been on my own for a while but I have 2 younger sisters who are trying to stay on their own and working hard. My dad has always been able to put food on the table but he rarely gets to take any days off because he always has to work.

My uncle on the other hand got a marketing degree and is a regional manager etc and makes good money working from home. He has more than enough to provide for his family and more. He gets to work out and take vacations to nice places often.

I want my uncles lifestyle, bless my Dad for working his ass off but I'll take a "drone" 9-5 that allows me to provide and travel.

[Roasted]

A. Find a hobby or passion after your job to give your life some fun. Your 9-5 can pay for it.

That's what I pretty much did with lifting and why I started competing. Also, riding motorcycles. Job is boring as fawk but I get paid over 80K a year (gonna break 90 this year) to pretty much dick around and do a little work. I HATE my job for the most part, I'm extremely bored of it and find it unfulfilling but at least it's not overly stressful (most of the time) and I don't feel physically drained when I'm done so I can hit the gym hard afterwards. I was getting zero sense of accomplishment at work so I basically got that from gym and competing. Also started tracking my bike which is $$$$$ but I can afford it. Felt good but at the end of the day my job still sucks. I'm seriously thinking about doing my own thing. I'm a computer programmer so I'm thinking about doing a side project and maybe create some mobile apps. Already have a pretty good idea for one that could make big $ ..... just need to find the time and motivation to do it which is hard when I'm already in front of a computer for 40 hours a week at work......the last thing I want to do when I get home is get on the computer.

I definitely agree with OP about people who are so into their job. I've gone out with a friend before and some buddy of his he met through work.....dudes are all talking about work and this or that project all excited and I'm like WTF? I'm on my own free time right now, why would I want to talk about work? I seriously, NEVER talk about work outside of work because I seriously don't give a ****.

[laffytaffy]

work starts in 3 hours because i couldnt sleep fuk my life
8-5 trade work

[moofthedog]

OP you need to find something that gets you self motivated. Sure you get a paycheck now, but everything changes when your business literally depends on you.

[TyreekD]

I think it all comes down to whether the company you are working for makes or breaks you.

If you feel the atmosphere is dull as soon as you walk through the doors, that job is not for you. Some companies have that friendly chill vibe that makes it a company to work for.

I would work a 9-5 job at a company I liked and would never have to worry about being upset coming in on Monday.

I went to two high schools in my teens and one of them I dreaded coming into on a Monday and the other one I couldn't wait to wake up and go to.

This is how a job is suppose to feel, you have to want to come to work.

[perunkas1980]