Los Angeles Dodgers

[awwchit]

This is a decent way to slash salary & still stay competitive. Greinke, AGon, Crawford, & Either are next on the chopping block, if they can find any takers. Welcome to Moneyball, Dodgers fans. That's what happens when hedge fund managers own & run your team. Be prepared to talk about "surplus value" more than you do about real baseball.
OTOH - no fan base should complain as long as the team spends up to the cap ($189MM)....it remains to be seen just how greedy/cheap the Dodger Owners will be.

I'm not entirely sold on this moneyball boner thing either. I think it's great and necessary for small market teams, but should be dialed back when you're in a large market mostly because you don't need to be cheap. Yankee ball is still the most successful in terms of actual championships.

Friedman has no rings. Neither does the new GM.

So I ain't one of those blind *******s agreeing and jerking off to their every move. Last season was a 94 win team. The idea was we needed bullpen help and another starter. Now we just got two old infielders and lost our best bat.

Time will tell

[StudderingJohn]

FACT: Dodgers are a worse team right now than when the season ended.

[BJohnny1988]

what in the hell am I reading?
The guy fixed our defense up the middle in the span of 36 hours and added good bullpen arms to our team.

if you miss Kemp, that's fine but wth at challenging these moves.
we have arguably the best defensive IF in baseball.

[awwchit]

what in the hell am I reading?
The guy fixed our defense up the middle in the span of 36 hours and added good bullpen arms to our team.

if you miss Kemp, that's fine but wth at challenging these moves.
we have arguably the best defensive IF in baseball.

He fixed our defense but at the cost of some power in Ramirez. He also worsen our defense at catcher. And we also lost speed on the bases. We lost big RH power in the OF and inserted an unproven Joc to fill the shoes. Sorry but I'll never be sold on this Grandal thing

Let's stop pretending these moves are perfect.

Do you like, get that?

[jacklambert58]

what in the hell am I reading?
The guy fixed our defense up the middle in the span of 36 hours and added good bullpen arms to our team.

if you miss Kemp, that's fine but wth at challenging these moves.
we have arguably the best defensive IF in baseball.

Rollins is 36 years old - he's solid, but definitely has lost a step. Howie is solid, but he is THEEE master at booting the easiest grounder hit right at him. They are good players & best of all (for Friedman) is that their contracts run out at the end of 2015.
It's true the Dodgers current payroll is/was unsustainable, but I think big market fans want some star power to match some of what was lost in Hanley & Kemp. Dodger fans are still stinging from the McCourt salary dump during his last years as owner. But the off season isn't over yet, let's see what else Friedman does.

[BJohnny1988]

He didn't make our defense weak at catcher. AJ Ellis didn't do anything in the run game last year…and Zack and Clay are great in the run game anyway.

Grandal has better pitch framing metrics than Ellis whose pitch framing metrics were terrible…so they went with Grandal….nevermind that Grandal is a switch bat and has more pop in his bat.

I don't care how old Rollins is. He plays good defense. We haven't had good defense at SS in years.
Survey says Howie Kendrick is a plus defender….better than Dee Gordon…oh, guess what…he also has more pop and extra base hits in his bat than Dee too.

Joc…unproven…he's still going to be a plus defender in Center.
SVS….unproven…still a good LF…takes good routes…has the most HR per at bat on the team last year.

Lose star players….add defense.
Lose power….get some of it back….it's not the worst thing in the world that we don't have the AL East lineup Coletti built…considering how much better we got in other aspects of the game.


oh btw.
before Clayton gave up that 3 run bomb…there were 2 plays before that put runners on.
yea, up the middle defense is important. It's the difference between being down in that game 3-2 or up 2-1.

[carlos71786]

in regard to power #'s

Rollins, Grandal and Kendrick = 39 HR's in 2014

Kemp, Hanley, Ellis and dee (lol, i know) = 43 HR's in 2014

I know Kemp and Hanley are capable of hitting 50 just between the both of them if they both stay healthy but what are the odds of that?

plus, Joc will hopefully hit some.

[awwchit]

I think I read that Grandal only threw out 17% of runners last season m.

That's pathetic Peter.

You know stolen bases matter in the playoffs?

We could talk about stats and argue them in our favor all day.

Like, I said. Time will tell brah

[jacklambert58]

in regard to power #'s

Rollins, Grandal and Kendrick = 39 HR's in 2014

Kemp, Hanley, Ellis and dee (lol, i know) = 43 HR's in 2014

I know Kemp and Hanley are capable of hitting 50 just between the both of them if they both stay healthy but what are the odds of that?

plus, Joc will hopefully hit some.

It's probably better to look at slugging percentage or ISO to account for the difference in PA. & lost time to injury, as those thing vary from year to year.

[awwchit]

in regard to power #'s

Rollins, Grandal and Kendrick = 39 HR's in 2014

Kemp, Hanley, Ellis and dee (lol, i know) = 43 HR's in 2014

I know Kemp and Hanley are capable of hitting 50 just between the both of them if they both stay healthy but what are the odds of that?

plus, Joc will hopefully hit some.

Would not be surprised if Kemp hits the 30 club.

Let's just wait and phucking see how everything pans out *******s. Time will tell if Kemp and Dee were worth trading based on the performance of them and the return.

I'm just rustled about the Kemp trade. Because imagine if Joc is for real, and Puig gets better, and Kemp stays healthy. that would have been our strongest OF

[carlos71786]

It's probably better to look at slugging percentage or ISO to account for the difference in PA. & lost time to injury, as those thing vary from year to year.

Definitely more to it than HR numbers, but just thought that was interesting. and there's no doubt that lost time to injury affected their numbers but with both of their recent track records, it would be hard to assume that they'll both play full, healthy seasons next year.

I'm still on the fence about the Kemp trade, since as of now, it hasn't led to any other moves and is starting to look like wanting to dump his salary had a lot to do with it. Kemp reminds me a lot of Bynum. when he's healthy, he's damn good, but do you wanna risk keeping him, having him be consistently hurt and then he'll have absolutely no trade value.

fuu, i just wish the season would start already.

[eltoro24]

He didn't make our defense weak at catcher. AJ Ellis didn't do anything in the run game last year…and Zack and Clay are great in the run game anyway.

Grandal has better pitch framing metrics than Ellis whose pitch framing metrics were terrible…so they went with Grandal….nevermind that Grandal is a switch bat and has more pop in his bat.

I don't care how old Rollins is. He plays good defense. We haven't had good defense at SS in years.
Survey says Howie Kendrick is a plus defender….better than Dee Gordon…oh, guess what…he also has more pop and extra base hits in his bat than Dee too.

Joc…unproven…he's still going to be a plus defender in Center.
SVS….unproven…still a good LF…takes good routes…has the most HR per at bat on the team last year.

Lose star players….add defense.
Lose power….get some of it back….it's not the worst thing in the world that we don't have the AL East lineup Coletti built…considering how much better we got in other aspects of the game.


oh btw.
before Clayton gave up that 3 run bomb…there were 2 plays before that put runners on.
yea, up the middle defense is important. It's the difference between being down in that game 3-2 or up 2-1.

Lol aj Ellis pls go. I go to the bathroom when he's up.

That boy can hit in October though it's unreal. Under .200 reg .323/.538 post wtf!

[BJohnny1988]

not one NLCS participants with a run game was seen that day.

pitching and defense bro.
Friedman made the right moves here.

can't wait for Crawford and Ethier to go.

[BNR]

why?

Logan White didn't sign off on the kid.
his defense has been reported to suck.

the kid just came over from cuba, a lot of pressure was put on him, they made him switch positions, and he still hit really well in the minor league. I'm optimistic, of course a lot of people are expecting the same results with what puig did which is unfair to the kid. Another year in the minor leagues can help him adjust to mlb baseball.

[awwchit]

Lol aj Ellis pls go. I go to the bathroom when he's up.

That boy can hit in October though it's unreal. Under .200 reg .323/.538 post wtf!

Bro. Aj Ellis is mr October

It's like he puts it in 6th gear during the playoffs

[BJohnny1988]

the kid just came over from cuba, a lot of pressure was put on him, they made him switch positions, and he still hit really well in the minor league. I'm optimistic, of course a lot of people are expecting the same results with what puig did which is unfair to the kid. Another year in the minor leagues can help him adjust to mlb baseball.

yea. he's hit just fine…which scares the hell out of me. Hitting like that, he should have been called up a while ago. That lets me know he's really flawed in another area.

Guy is 27/28. He's not a young kid anymore. Even if he has to learn some more. He has to pick it up.
Maybe learn LF.

[BNR]

all I want is for Ethier to finally get traded, the guy is so inconsistent and he doesn't stay healthy. No way is he an every day starter with what the dodger have in the outfield right now

[awwchit]

all I want is for Ethier to finally get traded, the guy is so inconsistent and he doesn't stay healthy. No way is he an every day starter with what the dodger have in the outfield right now

Ethier, at this point, is probably like "I don't give a phuck trade me you *******s, peace"

So whatever.

I think if Kemp was injury prone or glass no way he would have hit 17 bombs and hit as well as he did in the SECOND half. If anything he would have had a quick surge in the beginning then die out cause his "body couldn't take it anymore" second half fatigue or whatever these baseball fortune tellers will have you believe. People act like 1 year older actually means anything... Do people really think turning 30 automatically makes you bad hip grandpa status in baseball?

How I see it Kemp finally has the whole offseason to train train train and train; he didn't have that for a while. More months for his ankle and shoulder to rest and chit.

I'll take his shady defense and loss of speed any phucking day of the week if it meant seeing bison blasts every other game.

God damn this is still hard to accept.

KEMP PLS COME BACK

[awwchit]

San Diego got Kemp, Upton, and Myers in the OF

ho lee chit San Diego is for real now. Defensive woes but the power is there.

i'll phucking lol if we lose the division to the Giants and or Padres.

Those games are gonna be fun now that we have some actual competition in the Pads.

[jacklambert58]

San Diego got Kemp, Upton, and Myers in the OF

ho lee chit San Diego is for real now. Defensive woes but the power is there.

i'll phucking lol if we lose the division to the Giants and or Padres.

Those games are gonna be fun now that we have some actual competition in the Pads.

Gonna miss strolling into Petco & scoring prime seats for pennies - they might actually get some fans this year.

[awwchit]

ugh man. sad as phuck. its like the dodgers traded our Kobe man. One of the nicest guys in baseball. chopping onions.

Pederson and Grandal, y'all got some phucking shoes to fill

I'd probably thank Matt Kemp if he phucked my bitch srs