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    funny how people think muscle size is all that is needed. so what if ramy makes more gains he dont have conditioning or symmetry.
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    Originally Posted by Ghetto Boy View Post
    funny how people think muscle size is all that is needed. so what if ramy makes more gains he dont have conditioning or symmetry.
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    Originally Posted by Ghetto Boy View Post
    funny how people think muscle size is all that is needed.
    Your assumption on what people "think" is based on how poorly you know how to assess a physique.
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    If the judges ever have the courage to award Kai the title, Phil will never win it again. The sport will progress again and Phil will be left in it's wake.
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    Originally Posted by RoroCwalker View Post


    Yes, that's one definition of "symmetry"....but many people in bodybuilding have always used this definition

    ": balanced proportions; also : beauty of form arising from balanced proportions "

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/symmetry
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    Oh not that discussion again

    And well even if he meant proportions, Ramy has better proportions than Phil.
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    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    yes, that's one definition of "symmetry"....but many people in bodybuilding have always used this definition

    ": Balanced proportions; also : Beauty of form arising from balanced proportions "

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/symmetry
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    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
    F*ck off stealth, don't start with that sh*te again
    Like it or not, the definition I got came straight from the dictionary....and you already know for a fact that judges and other bodybuilders do indeed use that definition pretty often. I don't use it that way, but I acknowledge that a chit-ton of people in the bodybuilding community (including judges) do.
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    As long as Phil avoids injury, he'll win. It's as simple as that.

    The only other factor that could prevent him from winning is showing up with bad conditioning...which hasn't happened since 2009, and even then it was only due to food poisoning.

    I mean, come on!
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    I think Phil can break Ronnie's record...he's very complete...few weaknesses and no injuries. Only time will tell.
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    Originally Posted by pyrolee View Post
    I think Phil can break Ronnie's record...he's very complete...few weaknesses aside from average legs, narrow clavicles and a lack overall mass compared to the last 3 major Olympia winners and no GLARING injuries . Only time will tell.
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    ^ "Average legs" and "lack of overall mass".





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    So much pop and fullness combined with condition. The secret to that combination (which seems trivial for phil to achieve) is the holy grail of bodybuilding.
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    ^^^^

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    Dorian,Ronnie,Jay were all forced to retire due to injuries so they likely could have competed longer and won more titles if said injuries had never occured. Which may have prevented the latter from winning over the former in each case and vice versa. It's really hard to say what can and won't happen in half a decade or more.
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    His quads are a bit undersized but to say he has average legs is stupid.

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    Just a quick shot of Phil "lacking overall mass".

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    If the judges ever have the courage to award Kai the title, .

    So if they don't award the guy you like, that makes them cowards.
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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    Just a quick shot of Phil "lacking overall mass".

    [img]http://www.bodybuilders.gr/competitions/2013-olympia/prejudging/phil-heath-mr-olympia-2013-prejudging-2.jpg[img]
    He said "compared to the last 3 major Olympia winners".
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    Originally Posted by RoroCwalker View Post
    He said "compared to the last 3 Olympia winners".
    One of which is Dexter, so that's obviously complete horsechit
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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    Just a quick shot of Phil "lacking overall mass".

    I have zero problems with that ^
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    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
    One of which is Dexter, so that's obviously complete horsechit
    Edited, he said "major", which I suppose refers to Jay/Ronnie/Dorian.
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    Originally Posted by RoroCwalker View Post
    Edited, he said "major", which I suppose refers to Jay/Ronnie/Dorian.
    Ah, I see. Yeah I'd agree in that case, hard to argue with that.
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    I hope you guys have your 3D glasses ready for September.
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    Phil reminds me of Dexter in the sense of consistency.

    Look at Dexter, still going strong over the years.

    Phil is essentially Dexter consistency wise, just with a bit more size which is enough for him to win Mr O
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    Originally Posted by RoroCwalker View Post
    He said "compared to the last 3 major Olympia winners".
    He doesn't lack mass compared to any of them. He has a smaller frame (remember those 8,992 posts?) which carries relatively the same amount of mass.
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    Jay was around 260lbs at the 2001 'O. Phil last year was mid 240's maybe more with a smaller frame. If that's lacking mass then stick a pinecone in my ass, sprinkle kettle fried crisps on my back and call me ROMMY.
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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    He doesn't lack mass compared to any of them. He has a smaller frame (remember those 8,992 posts?) which carries relatively the same amount of mass.
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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    He doesn't lack mass compared to any of them. He has a smaller frame (remember those 8,992 posts?) which carries relatively the same amount of mass.
    Smaller frame or not, he has less mass than all 3. Therefore he lacks mass compared to them regardless of how you spin it.

    Phil doesn't lack mass compared to Ronnie..ridiculous statement

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