A few thoughts:
1. Posting world class lifters as examples will yield erroneous results when an attempt to mimic is conducted. They are extremely experienced and understand what they are doing and when/where each type of lift is required.
2. They each have a place and it is variant depending on your goals.
3. Unorthodox training can and will always be used by powerlifters if it helps them ascend. Not that "touch n go" is really an odd practice but you understand the point.
4. Personally on bench press will "touch n go" for reps on certain sets. Also will train paused reps as well because I understand during a contest I will be required to pause ever so briefly.
So overall I believe in both methods.
Just a few thoughts...my 2 cents.
Good luck!
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06-29-2014, 10:23 PM #312014 Misc Raw Bench Press Contest winner in the 276lb+ 555lb lift @ ~280lbs
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06-29-2014, 10:25 PM #32
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06-30-2014, 02:26 AM #33
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06-30-2014, 02:32 AM #34
"touch and go" isn't a deadlift. Its usually a bad version of an RDL/DLDL.
I don't even understand people who do "touch and go" for warm ups. The whole idea of a warm up is to lock in your technique, i can't fathom why people would use a different technique for a warm up, ESPECIALLY on a lift like the deadlift where large weight is involved.
I've never seen a convincing argument for anything other than full stop, proper deadlifts where every rep is essentially its own set. The only "plus" to doing touch and go i can see is that its easier, which isn't really a plus at all.My band: www.thesunexplodes.com
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06-30-2014, 03:06 AM #35
my "view" of touch and go might differ from other peoples, when i say im doing "touch and go" im obviously pulling the weight up and then when it hits the ground again its usually about 1 second before i lift it back up so im not "boucning it".
people in my gym i see doing as you say "real deadlifts" are taking easy 5-10sec breaks in between reps which doesnt really appeal to me, plenty of time to rest after your set.
my view of it is correct form (SLDL), no bouncing & smash out the desired reps which is 5-6 for me.
I'm sure your going to tell me im doing it wrong, but thats the way i do mine anyway“The only thing standing between you & your goal is the bullsh*t story you keep telling yourself as to why you cant achieve it”
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06-30-2014, 03:24 AM #36
If the weight is coming to a deadstop then you're not doing conventional deadlifts "wrong". Personally i would find that 1 second isn't long enough to ensure my form for repeat reps is adequate. As for 5-10 secs; 10 seconds sounds a bit long, 5 seconds sounds like about the amount of time i take in between reps to properly set up for the next one.
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06-30-2014, 09:49 AM #37
Just my opinion. Did both. Touch n go more intense, more explosive slightly more chances to hurt if you don't have correct form. Dead stop more difficult, time to get form fixed if your doing it wrong. And for me i lowered a bit the weights with dead stop.
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06-30-2014, 10:01 AM #38
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06-30-2014, 11:52 AM #39
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06-30-2014, 01:38 PM #40
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I've been barbell training for about 14 months and I voted dead stop. I'm currently pulling a work load of 390 for reps of 5. Touch and Go somewhat feels like cheating. I don't like it, and before you know it the set is over. I'd much rather pull each rep from a dead stop. Maybe one day I'll revisit (perhaps when I can pull 800 like Rubish), but for now dead stop all the way.
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06-30-2014, 11:25 PM #41
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07-01-2014, 06:32 AM #43
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Yes sir. I'm 5'8" and 173-184 depending on how much pizza I eat. I seem to be gifted in the deadlift department when I compare my numbers to other people's numbers. For instance my bench max is 173x5. Squat is 285x5 with deads going for 395x5 this week. I ran ICF 5x5 for as long as possible and now I'm running Stronglift's Madcow.more/more/more
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07-01-2014, 06:45 AM #44
Why would people copy Pete's method? His pulling style is unique to him as is everyone's pulling style. This is why some pull with hips high while other can pull with hips low. Each is unique to each lifter. Yes there are basic things that should be followed but that's just about it. It's stupid to mimic anyone pulling style.
The thread is about touch n go versus dead stop. BOTH have their place in training. For people to exclude one or another style for whatever reason is just stupid.OG
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07-01-2014, 08:06 AM #45
I do deadstop. One because that how i feel deadlift should be executed in working sets. for my warmup sets i do more of a hover than bounce (stop an inch short of the ground and keep moving through my warmup reps) The bounce technique transfers energy so youre using the momentum of the weight to keep it moving. essentially taking away from your bro numbers on what you can actually dead lift.
In all serious though, dead lets you reset each lift incase you got slightly off balance and reassess your posture. greatly minimizing risk of injury. where as with bouncing it off the ground, you could get caught in the zone, and arch your back too much, or lean forward anticipating the bounce, and now your out of wack and boom you strain something. or you forget to breathe and pass out.
Edit: im not talking a 5-10 second rest between reps, 1-2 seconds between pulls. if this constitutes a dead stop or a touch and go with no bounce, is up to your definition of the move. I dont bounce, and i dont rest, more of a very short reasses pauseLast edited by HELMET2HELMET20; 07-01-2014 at 08:24 AM.
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