Having Italian citizenship doesn't make Mario Balotelli Italian

[Staberella]

you don't get it. I consider you American 100%

but if you were born in Italy and you are of South Korean descent. I wouldn't consider you Italian. If a italian person was born and raised in south korea. I wouldn't consider him or her south korean.

Explain pls. Let's say my ancestors moved to Italy instead of the U.S. and I was born and raised on Italian soil for generations, speak the language, Italian culture is all I know... why would I not be considered Italian?

BTW my husband is Italian whose ancestors are from Naples.

[bilaba70]

OP doesn't know moors raped the **** of sicily for centuries and southern italians have african DNA

are you mad my friend?

He acquired an Italian citizenship through a legal process.
He is recognized as Italian.
His passport is Italian.
He plays for the Italian team.

You're just mad his black.

lol, these

[PaidProgramming]

Mario Balotelli is ethnically West African. He's an Italian citizen but not Italian


If he had a kid with an Italian women, they'd be ethnically Italian (and African) but Mario still wouldnt be

[MinisterOfLust]

Mario Balotelli is ethnically West African. He's an Italian citizen but not Italian


If he had a kid with an Italian women, they'd be ethnically Italian (and African) but Mario still wouldnt be

Shut up you moron.

[NatureOVER]

Explain pls. Let's say my ancestors moved to Italy instead of the U.S. and I, (south korean) was born and raised on Italian soil for generations, speak the language, Italian culture is all I know... why would I not be considered Italian?
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I would consider you South Korean by ethnicity and Italian by Nationality (on paper) just like Mario Balotelli. though you would never be ethnically italian.

to be italian you have to be 99% ethnically italian or european.

However, if you ancestors moved to US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand or any country in the New World....i'd consider you 100% Australian, American, Kiwi, etc.

[PaidProgramming]

Black people don't seem to be proud of their heritage so they latch on to others.

What black people do you know?

[skinnybro]

Obviously he isn't genetically european but he is officially a european, legally speaking, as long as he is a citizen of a european country. He is an african italian but he will never be an authentic italian. If I encountered a non-italian person in Italy I would refer to them by their race, not nationality. Race and nationality should be almost synonymous, and for the most part they are outside of white countries.

If a european man is born in nigeria will he be considered a nigerian by his fellow nigerians? No, of course not.

Agreed. Like I said earlier in this thread. Italian means two different things depending on if you are white or not. For a white person, when I say italian, I'm not talking in terms of citizenship. I could use Italian as a way of describing someone. "Hey that guy looks Italian", and obviously whoever I'm describing is going to be white, because that's what Italians look like!

[PrinceAmir]

Your so fauking ignorant. Leave Mario Alone.

[JD805]

If he was born in China does that make him chinese ?

[jimmyjabbar]

What black people do you know?

SRS. I'm black, most of the black people I know have foolish pride over chit traditions/cultures.

[MinisterOfLust]

I would consider you South Korean by ethnicity and Italian by Nationality (on paper) just like Mario Balotelli. though you would never be ethnically italian.

to be italian you have to be 99% ethnically italian or european.

However, if you ancestors moved to US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand or any country in the New World....i'd consider you 100% Australian, American, Kiwi, etc.

lol, strong logic

[T150]

Lol @ these strawman arguments.

Since when has balotelli claimed to be ethnically Italian?

This whole thread is based on a claim that no one has ever made.

[Staberella]

I would consider you South Korean by ethnicity and Italian by Nationality (on paper) just like Mario Balotelli. though you would never be ethnically italian.

to be italian you have to be 99% ethnically italian or european.

However, if you ancestors moved to US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand or any country in the New World....i'd consider you 100% Australian, American, Kiwi, etc.

TBH I find that a bit strange since most Italians are mixed as hell.

[skinnybro]

Shut up you moron.

You aren't white, are you? Otherwise that would've made perfect sense.

[PaidProgramming]

Shut up you moron.

Its honestly what Mario gets for turning his back on the continent where he's from and could have been a king in, in exchange for playing for one of the most racist countries in the world.

[JeenyusJr]

> African born Roman emperor Septimius Severus. U mad OP?

[KizzaK]

he is as Italian as you are american

[NatureOVER]

If he was born in China does that make him chinese ?

No.

If a Chinese was born in African that wouldn't make him African.

[whitepaper]

Yes, Swedes and Italians do have different DNA. I even included a picture since reading is probably too much work for you.



http://www.jowsey.com/genealogy/GeneticGenealogy.html

Well, you got me there, and thank you for the picture, reading is too much work for me.


I should have been more clear with what I said and mean, but you are right, the DNA is different. But you've largely ignored all my other questions.

But if you deem yourself to be Italian simply based on the fact that you belong to a particular haplogroup showing a particular polymorphism for a few genes that may or may not have any significant bearing, then so be it.

But again, you don't know his genealogy at all aside from having parents who are from Ghana, and you don't know your genealogy fully as well.

As many have said, Italy, among a few other countries, are made up of a variety of mixes, for lack of a better word, that have found their way into "Italians" and their noble genetics.


At the end of the day, it's just someone being pedantic over something so trivial and arbitrary.


inb4 haplogroup pride

[skinnybro]

TBH I find that a bit strange since most Italians are mixed as hell.

Thats a myth that was perpetuated by Western Europeans to discriminate against "lesser whites", like those from the south or east

[BlueEyeBlonde]

Its honestly what Mario gets for turning his back on the continent where he's from and could have been a king in, in exchange for playing for one of the most racist countries in the world.

Mario is Italian and wants to play for Italy.
He has no obligation to his African country.

[TheDesertFox]

lettuce beef cereal, OPs thread is due to racism and nothing more.

[jimmyjabbar]

If he was born in China does that make him chinese ?

If he lived there his whole life and spoke Chinese, he'd be african-chinese.

[skinnybro]

he is as Italian as you are american

I agree completely. It is only my passport that makes me American, and only his passport that makes him Italian.

[Foze]

Italians are not a race nor are they an ethnic group, so you've failed there already.

You're only questioning his status as an Italian because he's black. Sad, but I know that's the consensus amongst a lot of people in Italy as well who don't consider him one of their own.

If he was British, he'd get embraced just as well as any of the plethora of black players England have had/has. No one questions whether players like Heskey, Ian Wright or Wellbeck etc if were British or not.

[NatureOVER]

TBH I find that a bit strange since most Italians are mixed as hell.

let me explain further, Staberella

You see, since Greeks is white, after a few generations of a Greek family moving to the Italy their descendants will speak with a Italian accent, have italian culture, etc, so will be entirely undistinguishable from ethnic italians.

An Korean or black immigrant will ALWAYS be distinguishable from an ethnic Italians because they're not the same race.

I know it's unfair but that's life. Likewise, a Korean immigrant to Japan will integrate far better than a Greek immigrant to Japan.

[MinisterOfLust]

You aren't white, are you? Otherwise that would've made perfect sense.

How about you are not making any sense?

[Coachbombay]

dat bricklayer gene

[Staberella]

Thats a myth that was perpetuated by Western Europeans to discriminate against "lesser whites", like those from the south or east

WTF is a 'lesser white'? Italians are mixed as hell, along with other Med. countries.

[BlueEyeBlonde]

Italians are not a race nor are they an ethnic group, so you've failed there already.

You're only questioning his status as an Italian because he's black. Sad, but I know that's the consensus amongst a lot of people in Italy as well who don't consider him one of their own.

If he was British, he'd get embraced just as well as any of the plethora of black players England have had/has. No one questions whether players like Heskey, Ian Wright or Wellbeck etc if they're British or not.

OP is just a race baiter.

Everyone knows that nationality-wise = Italian.
Ethnically is he is black.

A white person born in Ghana is NOT BLACK, but he is Ghanaian.