Dorian Yates 6-time Mr. Olympia winner IFBB bodybuilder uses DMT

[purdey]

DMT opened his third eye to how the holocaust never happened.

Are you certain it did happen?

[flangmasterj]

Are you certain it did happen?

More evidence that it did than it didn't.

[purdey]

More evidence that it did than it didn't.

Have you ever looked at much evidence that it didn't happen?

[Unbiasedfan]

Have you ever looked at much evidence that it didn't happen?

Yes, its as much as an historical fact as it can be.

[flangmasterj]

Have you ever looked at much evidence that it didn't happen?

No.

[BartPimpson]

Yes, its as much as an historical fact as it can be.

Here's something interesting Arthur Jones wrote about Joe Weider in one of his books.

Hitler, I believe, said it first . . . “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it enough times, it becomes the truth.” (Or words
to that effect.) Joe Weider, for his part, has been stating in his ads he has been “The Trainer of Champions since 1936.”
Or 1938, depending upon which ad you read. If so, then he gained that title when he was fourteen years old. Personally,
having observed his career from the moment he first came on the scene, I would be more inclined to call him the
“Bilker of Chumps.”

In his first magazines, which were nothing short of pitiful even by the standards of the time, Weider frequently used
himself as a model to demonstrate exercises; but he was very careful not to identify the pictures as being of him,
probably because he was a very skinny kid with about as much muscle as a survivor of one of Hitler’s death camps.
Over the years Joe has had quite a lot to say about the “Weider Research Clinic,” which, in fact, is a figment of his
imagination, since nothing of the sort ever existed. If Weider has ever invested as much as a dime in research it has not
come to my attention; nevertheless, he has not been at all hesitant about giving himself full credit for having discovered
everything from sex to money, including fire, the wheel and damned near anything else you can name

But, following Hitler’s advice about lies, Joe has managed to survive and grow, and has managed to convince millions
of poor fools that he was the solution to their problems. And, strangely enough for Joe, being a Jew, he seems to
actually admire Hitler; but, if not, then just why does he have his house crammed with Nazi symbols and souvenirs?

http://www.arthurjonesexercise.com/First_Half/44b.PDF

[TropicalSunset]

Have you ever looked at much evidence that it didn't happen?

I personally know multiple people who have lost family members in the holocaust, so to say it didn't happen is insulting to them. Sure history is written by the victors and we will never know the full truth I am sure, but to say the holocaust didn't happen is pushing it a bit far.

[Canuck77]

Acid is one powerful ride. Did dabble back in the day. It's almost like being taken into another dimension, everything is so vivid, colours brighter, music moves through you and you can almost step out of your body and look at yourself and the world from a totally unique and utopia like state. It expands your mind. It is very difficult to explain.

You can also have horrible trips though. I witnessed a couple and they were very, very intense. As PC said in his post, it can be a game of roulette.


FYI regarding Jobs and LSD

Steve Jobs: LSD Was One of The Best Things I've Done in My Life

"Speaking about his youthful experiments with psychedelics, Jobs said, "Doing LSD was one of the two or three most important things I have done in my life." He was hardly alone among computer scientists in his appreciation of hallucinogenics and their capacity to liberate human thought from the prison of the mind. Jobs even let drop that Microsoft's Bill Gates would "be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once." Apple's mantra was"Think different." Jobs did. And he credited his use of LSD as a major reason for his success."

[pyrolee]

The introduction of drugs can allow the mind to become aware of, and potentially perceive and/or control, certain parameters it had disregarded in the unconscious.

[BOUNTYHUNTERMK2]

Wanna see something amazing?

List the substances he hasn't used in his lifetime

[Kiwi_]

[transformerchad]

Have you ever looked at much evidence that it didn't happen?

Don't start with this utter bull****t debate again


On topic : Wont touch that DMT id have a heart attack , no doubts .

[lancs_hotpot]

Saw on a documentry on DMT and all the people said it was awesome and made them one with the universe and ****. I believe its your brain going haywire but i really want to try it. Im scared of things like acid and lsd though as usually if i have mdma i tend to jump through tables and want to do crazy ****. But being one with the universe sounds cool.

[PillClinton]

Gonna need some citations.

try real life.

[chasingpro]

Dmt puts you in perspective to say the least. You really get a grasp on things like priorities.

[Problematique91]

If it takes psychedelics to make you see priorities, that's odd.

[mike8190]

Saw on a documentry on DMT and all the people said it was awesome and made them one with the universe and ****. I believe its your brain going haywire but i really want to try it. Im scared of things like acid and lsd though as usually if i have mdma i tend to jump through tables and want to do crazy ****. But being one with the universe sounds cool.

Ive never tried mdma but i'd imagine it's pretty different. acid trips for me have always been pretty easy. Could get really intense but never anything outside of my control. Mushrooms on the other hand, I've had a pretty scary experience lol but it all ended well.

[Canuck77]

Here is an example...this is a famous illusion, the mask rotates and as the narrator in the video explains, your mind cannot see the inside of the mask as concave because our minds are preconditioned to view the human face a certain way, which is for a nose to always protrude or stick out. Try to see it for what it is, concave/inside of a mask...it is very difficult, nearly impossible for the average mind.

Interestingly, in a study, those on LSD as well as those with schizophrenia saw this illusion as the mask being totally concave once rotated to the back. In other words, all they saw was the inside of a mask, no illusion.

That is how LSD can alter your perception and allow your brain to break the barrier of preconceived or preconditioned thoughts in the subconscious.

[Unit1994]

Have you ever looked at much evidence that it didn't happen?

If you think the holocaust didnt happen then I've just lost abit of faith in humanity.

[MrMetabolism]

Lots of closed minds in here lol

[davidwalahe]

Saw on a documentry on DMT and all the people said it was awesome and made them one with the universe and ****. I believe its your brain going haywire but i really want to try it. Im scared of things like acid and lsd though as usually if i have mdma i tend to jump through tables and want to do crazy ****. But being one with the universe sounds cool.

Same as you on this one. I'd like to try it but to be honest it's slightly nerve wracking purely with the uncertainty of it. Have been lucky with most things and all gone well but living in Essex and seeing the state of some of our smackheads and such it does make you wonder if it be best left to others....

[Larfleeze]

Would to way too paranoid to ever do hallucinogens..the thought of having a bad trip that I was covered in spiders or some chit is just too worrying

[PillClinton]

Would to way too paranoid to ever do hallucinogens..the thought of having a bad trip that I was covered in spiders or some chit is just too worrying

Bad trips will happen because A) you took too much and dont have the experience to control it, B) you are surrounded a really bad environment (nasty friends, dangerous area, etc.), C) you are already mentally unstable (being too paranoid about being paranoid counts), or D) something very traumatic and unexpected happens (the worst of all). The latter could really mess you up, depending how severe the trauma is.

Mostly, if you are safe, plan out what will you will do, where you will go, and make redundancy plans, you will be A okay... but most drugs users aren't that responsible, lol.

[Larfleeze]

Bad trips will happen because A) you took too much and dont have the experience to control it, B) you are surrounded a really bad environment (nasty friends, dangerous area, etc.), C) you are already mentally unstable (being too paranoid about being paranoid counts), or D) something very traumatic and unexpected happens (the worst of all). The latter could really mess you up, depending how severe the trauma is.

Mostly, if you are safe, plan out what will you will do, where you will go, and make redundancy plans, you will be A okay... but most drugs users aren't that responsible, lol.

I don't have any plans to try them anytime soon, I haven't even tried green or anything. Mostly because by the time people offer me stuff I'm already struggling to walk in a straight line lol

[PillClinton]

Lots of closed minds in here lol

I don't have any plans to try them anytime soon, I haven't even tried green or anything. Mostly because by the time people offer me stuff I'm already struggling to walk in a straight line lol

yeah, if you have no experience with drugs, acid shouldn't be something to consider.

[RockyTheKid]

Lots of closed minds in here lol

Perhaps, but I prefer to live in the real world...not in one full of geometrical shapes, numbers and colors, all of which "tell you the true meaning of life".

[Canuck77]

yeah, if you have no experience with drugs, acid shouldn't be something to consider.

Agreed man. At a house just lounging with a small group of friends who are not all tripping is a good way to go. Worst place imho for early experimentation is at some underground rave or after hours night club where you don't know most of the people and are exposed to many unknown variables that could lead to a traumatic experience et.

Not promoting its use but if you do heavy research on it there is a lot of interesting info on the web. There was actually government funded research for treatment of certain mental illnesses with LSD as well trials used by the military for various tactics, including telepathy and telekinesis.

[PillClinton]

Perhaps, but I prefer to live in the real world...not in one full of geometrical shapes, numbers and colors, all of which "tell you the true meaning of life".

i think its close minded as hell to look at others as close minded just because they don't want to experiment. All the more power to you for feeling confident in your way of life.

I also agree with canuck. too many damn people going off taking drugs they have no prior knowledge about (I am guilty of this myself in the past) in places they shouldn't be. I hope to educate my children of the dangers of drugs in a way that doesn't condemn them (because they are not inherently bad, much like the gun debates), but in a way that says "if you are going to use, here are the steps you can take to know if its right for you."

more on topic. Good for dorian for experimenting. Life is so full of options, ways of thinking, ways of being. If he wants to go off and say some ridiculous stuff, all the more power to him. He is in no real position to hurt people with his views in a unique way.

[1983Warrior]

Not they don't, no they can't, at least in a supernatural way. Not arrogant to call out bullsh!t spewed without any piece of solid evidence.

I sometimes feel I am the smartest person, but I think if I can't understand a Shaman why then bother if he gives me what I want then he is beneficial to me. You get it?

[1983Warrior]

Holocaust probably happened but if not then all those jews are liying. Who cares really? Hitler was a mad one testical women but all those Germans that joined him are even more stupid and are to be blamed. People talk to much about Hitler as if everything was his his fault when it actually was all those Germans that did everything.

Please reply otherwise I feel stranded.