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    Shortly after the discovery of Elisa Lam’s body, a deadly outbreak of tuberculosis occurred in Skid Row, near Cecil Hotel. You probably won’t believe the name of the test kit used in these kinds of situations: LAM-ELISA. That is hardcore synchronicity.

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    Originally Posted by jimbob007 View Post
    Why? They just named it in her honour.
    Nah bro... LAM = LipoArabinoMannan, ELISA = Enzyme Linked ImmunoSorbent Assay..

    Google it..

    there's just to many odd things about this....
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    were you *******s raised by women? brb some weird chit happens must be GHOSTS AND SPIRITS
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    She obviously had some kind of manic episode. I just don't get how she pulled it off. No so much physically, b/c I see how you could do it, but more so how she ended up where she did. Of all places to end up she is in the water tank. I also don't get why she was at the hotel to begin with. Also, an interesting post from the reddit page someone else linked:

    "Somewhere there was a photo of the how the keyboard of the elevator looks like. There where three columns of buttons, the top left being the 14th floor (open door button is again on the same column). If you look closely, she presses the buttons only from the left and middle column. The top left button doesnt highlight which suggests that she is on the 14th floor. Why she was on the 14th floor when her room was on the 4th?"
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    Originally Posted by HumptyBrah View Post
    Fuk this thread and fuk the OP. Young girl goes to seedy hotel in LA by herself and ends up dead and stuffed in a water tank I can deal with. But that fuking video, especially the shiit she was doing with her hands, just... nope.

    edit: ^^^ you fuking kunt quoting that pic, gahhh
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    Originally Posted by TheFourthPooper View Post
    She obviously had some kind of manic episode. I just don't get how she pulled it off. No so much physically, b/c I see how you could do it, but more so how she ended up where she did. Of all places to end up she is in the water tank. I also don't get why she was at the hotel to begin with. Also, an interesting post from the reddit page someone else linked:

    "Somewhere there was a photo of the how the keyboard of the elevator looks like. There where three columns of buttons, the top left being the 14th floor (open door button is again on the same column). If you look closely, she presses the buttons only from the left and middle column. The top left button doesnt highlight which suggests that she is on the 14th floor. Why she was on the 14th floor when her room was on the 4th?"
    Maybe in her mental state she was confusing 4 with 14 & couldn't work out why she was on the wrong floor.
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    This chit fuks me up all the fuking time. Thanks OP. Won't go to sleep now.
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    were you *******s raised by women? brb some weird chit happens must be GHOSTS AND SPIRITS
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    who's saying that?
    I don't know much about this, but I certainly don't believe it was ghosts or spirits as I don't believe in that. I think it's more possible that she was murdered. (By a human, of course.)

    But if they say it's suicide/accidental, then I guess it is. It certainly wasn't any non-existent ghosts/spirits.
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    Originally Posted by Celsus View Post
    Shortly after the discovery of Elisa Lam’s body, a deadly outbreak of tuberculosis occurred in Skid Row, near Cecil Hotel. You probably won’t believe the name of the test kit used in these kinds of situations: LAM-ELISA. That is hardcore synchronicity.

    What are the chances? 0,001?

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    Fair enough-again I had heard they decided to name something after her. Obviously another piece of nonsense. One of the first threads I came across when looking for this case was titled did a ghost kill her? That tells you the level the debate of most of the threads on her.

    Yep-the chances of it are pretty slim, just like the chances of a piece of ice from a plane hitting you or your house-but it does happen very infrequently. If you look both ways before you cross the road you should be safe-but there is always the chance some idiot or criminal running from the cops will go through a red light & hit you. Just one of those strange coincidences that crop up-if you ever read Fortean Times you will see these types of things probably happen more often than you would think.
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    Originally Posted by TheFourthPooper View Post
    She obviously had some kind of manic episode. I just don't get how she pulled it off. No so much physically, b/c I see how you could do it, but more so how she ended up where she did. Of all places to end up she is in the water tank. I also don't get why she was at the hotel to begin with. Also, an interesting post from the reddit page someone else linked:

    "Somewhere there was a photo of the how the keyboard of the elevator looks like. There where three columns of buttons, the top left being the 14th floor (open door button is again on the same column). If you look closely, she presses the buttons only from the left and middle column. The top left button doesnt highlight which suggests that she is on the 14th floor. Why she was on the 14th floor when her room was on the 4th?"
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    Maybe in her mental state she was confusing 4 with 14 & couldn't work out why she was on the wrong floor.
    One of the more macabre theories I read on one of the Reddit threads is that she confused 4 and 14 not because of her mental state but because she didn't have her glasses on - hence why she crouched down and practically put her face to the panel when she was pressing buttons. She got to 14, went to what she thought was her room, and when she couldn't get inside, the inhabitant of the room - her eventual rapist and killer - opened the door and saw an opportunity. In this theory, her odd behavior in the elevator footage is explained by her interacting with the anonymous man.

    I consider it to be pretty far-fetched, considering the expert way with which her assailant - who, in this theory, was just an opportunist - would have had to cover his tracks. I don't really think a man acting on such an impulse would be so stealthy about it.
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    Originally Posted by jimbob007 View Post
    Fair enough-again I had heard they decided to name something after her. Obviously another piece of nonsense. One of the first threads I came across when looking for this case was titled did a ghost kill her? That tells you the level the debate of most of the threads on her.

    Yep-the chances of it are pretty slim, just like the chances of a piece of ice from a plane hitting you or your house-but it does happen very infrequently. If you look both ways before you cross the road you should be safe-but there is always the chance some idiot or criminal running from the cops will go through a red light & hit you. Just one of those strange coincidences that crop up-if you ever read Fortean Times you will see these types of things probably happen more often than you would think.
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    Originally Posted by HumptyBrah View Post
    One of the more macabre theories I read on one of the Reddit threads is that she confused 4 and 14 not because of her mental state but because she didn't have her glasses on - hence why she crouched down and practically put her face to the panel when she was pressing buttons. She got to 14, went to what she thought was her room, and when she couldn't get inside, the inhabitant of the room - her eventual rapist and killer - opened the door and saw an opportunity. In this theory, her odd behavior in the elevator footage is explained by her interacting with the anonymous man.

    I consider it to be pretty far-fetched, considering the expert way with which her assailant - who, in this theory, was just an opportunist - would have had to cover his tracks. I don't really think a man acting on such an impulse would be so stealthy about it.
    I think the consensus on her weird hand movements should be; it was due to her being impaired some how, whether it was mental illness or some kind of drugs, she was not interacting with anyone.

    how she got in the tank, and died, is another issue, she may have been murdered by someone but the elevator video has nothing to do with her death besides showing how impaired she was

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    I remember this when it came out. It creeped me out.

    brb staying at seedy hotel in skid row by myself as a nice innocent asian girl from Vancouver
    brb elevator scene isn't right, girl is 'playing' but not smiling, door opens/closes over and over but never for her
    brb getting on roof, not setting off alarm, climbing 10ft tank
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    Originally Posted by HumptyBrah View Post
    One of the more macabre theories I read on one of the Reddit threads is that she confused 4 and 14 not because of her mental state but because she didn't have her glasses on - hence why she crouched down and practically put her face to the panel when she was pressing buttons. She got to 14, went to what she thought was her room, and when she couldn't get inside, the inhabitant of the room - her eventual rapist and killer - opened the door and saw an opportunity. In this theory, her odd behavior in the elevator footage is explained by her interacting with the anonymous man.

    I consider it to be pretty far-fetched, considering the expert way with which her assailant - who, in this theory, was just an opportunist - would have had to cover his tracks. I don't really think a man acting on such an impulse would be so stealthy about it.
    Don't really get the glasses theory-I have piss poor eyesight for anything more than a foot or so away from me & I have always managed fine in elevators without wearing specs. It is far more likely she was having some kind of psychotic episode & didn't know what she was doing.

    Of course she might have gone to the wrong room on the wrong floor & knocked on the door of a lunatic, who then would have had to subdue her, rape her, murder her & then dispose of the body & try to get rid of any DNA evidence-now I know she was in that thing for a couple of weeks-but I haven't heard of any signs of trauma to her body that indicate she was strangled, suffocated, bound etc, nor any evidence that she was raped & presumably neither did the medical examiner & their team-which is why it was ruled as a tragic misadventure.
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    Originally Posted by Acebren View Post
    I think the consensus on her weird hand movements should be; it was due to her being impaired some how, whether it was mental illness or some kind of drugs, she was not interacting with anyone.

    how she got in the tank, and died, is another issue, she may have been murdered by someone but the elevator video has nothing to do with her death besides showing how impaired she was

    just my 2 cents
    And correct-watching that video as I & pretty much everybody did without knowing much about the case it does look really sinister, but when you look into it more it just looks like somebody with a mental issue behaving in a very bizarre manner & confusing the lift by pressing multiple buttons over & over.
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    Everyone who says it's drugs then cannot explain how the elevator doors opened and closed strangely and how the video got edited. They also cannot explain how her body got in the tank.

    If it was murder then it could explain the elevator doors and the shop but not her strange drug like behavior. Also cannot explain her body in the tank.

    The only logical explain is ghosts or demons but ghosts and demons aren't logical in the scientific sense.

    So thus this will always be a mystery since there is no logical explanation. Time to move on.
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    Originally Posted by p0werlifter View Post
    Everyone who says it's drugs then cannot explain how the elevator doors opened and closed strangely and how the video got edited. They also cannot explain how her body got in the tank.

    If it was murder then it could explain the elevator doors and the shop but not her strange drug like behavior.

    The only logical explain is ghosts or demons but ghosts and demons aren't logical

    So thus this will always be a mystery since there is no logical explanation. Time to move on.
    The elevator doors is the easiest part to explain, as she was very clearly playing with the buttons like a 5 year old.
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    Only thing I will say is if it was murder you're telling me someone was able to carry a body up a ladder 10ft? Okay.jpg.

    Couldn't care less though, idk why you *******s think this is so creepy or really suspicious. Bunch of sheltered, suburban, tin-foil hat mother fukers lol. Crazier chit than this happens that we will never hear or see about so just vibe.
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    Originally Posted by HumptyBrah View Post
    The elevator doors is the easiest part to explain, as she was very clearly playing with the buttons like a 5 year old.
    Not really. I never saw her press buttons.
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    Originally Posted by p0werlifter View Post
    Not really. I never saw her press buttons.
    Not sure if srs, did you watch the video? She literally starts hitting every button on the elevator.
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    Originally Posted by Aperture View Post
    Not sure if srs, did you watch the video? She literally starts hitting every button on the elevator.
    Yeah my bad. I realized that too late. It's been a while since I watched the vid but still. Rewatched it and I guess the evelator doors can be explained easily. Still can't explain her bizarre behavior and the fact that she is acting like something's there. People don't start flapping their arms weirdly if they're running for their lives.
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    Originally Posted by p0werlifter View Post
    Everyone who says it's drugs then cannot explain how the elevator doors opened and closed strangely and how the video got edited. They also cannot explain how her body got in the tank.

    If it was murder then it could explain the elevator doors and the shop but not her strange drug like behavior. Also cannot explain her body in the tank.

    The only logical explain is ghosts or demons but ghosts and demons aren't logical in the scientific sense.

    So thus this will always be a mystery since there is no logical explanation. Time to move on.
    Who said it was drugs-she might have been having a mental episode? Elevator doors do open & close strangely-if people keep pressing buttons, jam things in the middle of the runner to stop it closing etc, if the elevator is old & needs maintenance work done. I used to work in a government building & the elevator there had a mind of its own-going to wrong floors, opening & closing, stopping but the doors not opening sometimes etc-most of it caused by age/lack of regular servicing & jamming mail bags & boxes in-between the doors to stop it closing.


    How would murder explain the elevator doors? At no point is anybody else seen on the tape-rapist murderers generally don't hang around taunting victims & risking being caught on film-they want to abduct the person in a remote area with no CCTV & where few people are & get on with it. A murder would explain more easily how the body got in the tank-a 6 foot plus guy would find it easier to dump a female body in something that high than a 5 foot 4 female would getting into it herself.

    Ghosts & demons is gross stupidity-even if you want to believe they actually exist then why would a ghost be trying to kill somebody? Let alone some random person they never knew while they were alive & why haven't they murdered anybody else?

    So no, the only mystery as such is how a 5 foot 4 woman managed to get into an 8 foot high tank-but considering people can exhibit great strength etc during these episodes it isn't that unrealistic she could have managed to scale it enough to grab hold of the top & pull herself up the last bit.
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    I'm gonna say she got possessed.

    Creepy though
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    Originally Posted by jimbob007 View Post
    Who said it was drugs-she might have been having a mental episode? Elevator doors do open & close strangely-if people keep pressing buttons, jam things in the middle of the runner to stop it closing etc, if the elevator is old & needs maintenance work done. I used to work in a government building & the elevator there had a mind of its own-going to wrong floors, opening & closing, stopping but the doors not opening sometimes etc-most of it caused by age/lack of regular servicing & jamming mail bags & boxes in-between the doors to stop it closing.


    How would murder explain the elevator doors? At no point is anybody else seen on the tape-rapist murderers generally don't hang around taunting victims & risking being caught on film-they want to abduct the person in a remote area with no CCTV & where few people are & get on with it. A murder would explain more easily how the body got in the tank-a 6 foot plus guy would find it easier to dump a female body in something that high than a 5 foot 4 female would getting into it herself.

    Ghosts & demons is gross stupidity-even if you want to believe they actually exist then why would a ghost be trying to kill somebody? Let alone some random person they never knew while they were alive & why haven't they murdered anybody else?

    So no, the only mystery as such is how a 5 foot 4 woman managed to get into an 8 foot high tank-but considering people can exhibit great strength etc during these episodes it isn't that unrealistic she could have managed to scale it enough to grab hold of the top & pull herself up the last bit.
    I am simply saying that there is no logical explanation that fits all of the data in this story. Did I ever say that it was a demon? I just simply said that we will never know so there's no point to being creeped out by it or try to figure it out because you'll never figure it out. If people who saw the actual evidence and examained the data couldn't figure it out then you won't be able to neither.

    There is more mystery than that btw. It isn't just the doors. It isn't her weird behavior. It isn't the tank. It isn't the hotel. It isn't any single factor but all of them combined that makes this so bizarre and difficult to explain.

    Also rejecting the existence of demons and other spirits is just as dumb as the people who insisted that the earth was flat.
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