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    I thought it would be Hank, I thought Hank could have been seen in the car.

    Edit: lol, didn't read the last line before options, therefore victim might be Sam as others have said.
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    Originally Posted by VabaX View Post
    it was Joe. suicide.

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    Originally Posted by Breaktalents View Post


    pls respond.
    (A) Hank. - Was seen 4 blocks away from the crime 5 minutes after it occurred (Said victim died instantly)
    (B) Joe. - Hated the victim (Unless he hated himself, he is not the victim)
    (C) Mac. - Was at the grave of the victim (Meaning he is still alive, not the victim)
    (D) Pete. - Was released from the hospital the day after the shooting from a heart attack (Still alive, not victim)
    (E) Sam. - All we know is he was afraid of Joe (Using simple deduction, the victim must be Sam)

    The most probable killer is Hank. He was very close to the shooting when it happened. Joe is not likely the killer due to his condition, though it is possible with today's technology. Mac is does not know how to drive, thus a good Alibi. Pete had a clear Alibi as he was in the hospital the day of the shooting.
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    Originally Posted by raytayse View Post
    (A) Hank. - Was seen 4 blocks away from the crime 5 minutes after it occurred (Said victim died instantly)
    (B) Joe. - Hated the victim (Unless he hated himself, he is not the victim)
    (C) Mac. - Was at the grave of the victim (Meaning he is still alive, not the victim)
    (D) Pete. - Was released from the hospital the day after the shooting from a heart attack (Still alive, not victim)
    (E) Sam. - All we know is he was afraid of Joe (Using simple deduction, the victim must be Sam)

    The most probable killer is Hank. He was very close to the shooting when it happened. Joe is not likely the killer due to his condition, though it is possible with today's technology. Mac is not likely as if the vehicle was known by the family the likelyhood of him attending the funeral would be low. Pete had a clear Aliby
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    Originally Posted by raytayse View Post
    (A) Hank. - Was seen 4 blocks away from the crime 5 minutes after it occurred (Said victim died instantly)
    (B) Joe. - Hated the victim (Unless he hated himself, he is not the victim)
    (C) Mac. - Was at the grave of the victim (Meaning he is still alive, not the victim)
    (D) Pete. - Was released from the hospital the day after the shooting from a heart attack (Still alive, not victim)
    (E) Sam. - All we know is he was afraid of Joe (Using simple deduction, the victim must be Sam)
    I think your deduction skills need work because Joe could still be the victim according to your post.

    That being said I think Sam was most likely the victim
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    Originally Posted by Psychotropic View Post
    I think your deduction skills need work because Joe could still be the victim according to your post.

    That being said I think Sam was most likely the victim
    Yes, the victim could have hated himself, but that would just be horrible wording in the question and a clear case of being intentionally misleading. Joe is not likely to be the victim.

    That's like saying Joe is the father in the household. Joe hates the father. No one would state it in that manner, and to read into it like that is unreasonable. My deduction skills are just fine thank you very much. Furthermore they state Joe IS paralyzed from the waist down, not Joe was paralyzed; this implies Joe is alive. You do not say a deceased man is paralyzed, you say he was.

    Understanding proper English is part of deduction in my opinion.
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    Originally Posted by Kadafi25 View Post
    OP, 5 mins to post answer and reason or negs.
    This. I'm tired of refreshing this thread.
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    Originally Posted by ThatsitThatsall View Post
    This. I'm tired of refreshing this thread.
    The OP is trying his best to justify Joe as the victim though it is clearly Sam. I have a feeling the OP does not know the answer, or at best is arguing with a friend about the answer to the question using the Misc to "back him up."
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    Okay, VICTIM.

    We have 3 scenarios.

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    Originally Posted by raytayse View Post
    Yes, the victim could have hated himself, but that would just be horrible wording in the question and a clear case of being intentionally misleading. Joe is not likely to be the victim.

    That's like saying Joe is the father in the household. Joe hates the father. No one would state it in that manner, and to read into it like that is unreasonable. My deduction skills are just fine thank you very much. Furthermore they state Joe IS paralyzed from the waist down, not Joe was paralyzed as in Joe is now dead.
    No you misunderstood. Deducing something requires that the conclusion follows strictly from the premises.

    I agree that the victim is most likely Sam but for different reasons – the tense used in speaking about Joe and Sam

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    Originally Posted by Psychotropic View Post
    No you misunderstood. Deducing something requires that the conclusion follows strictly from the premises.

    I agree that the victim is most likely Sam but for different reasons – the tense used in speaking about Joe and Sam
    So your deduction is exactly what you quoted me saying, but MY deduction needs work???

    Hmmm. This has turned into a Troll thread.
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    Originally Posted by Drhunglow View Post
    Yea why not go look at who's dead instead of playing this stupid game?
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    i think none of the above because i'm pretty sure gordon was the victim AND killer in this story, here is my reasoning:
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    Hank killed Sam

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    The correct answer
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    Joe can't hate himself because the first sentence says "One of the persons named below shot and killed another of the persons named". If It was suicide by Joe, the first sentence would read, "One of the persons below was shot and instantly killed. Neighbours heard......"




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    You guys need to work on your deduction skills.
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    Originally Posted by Breaktalents View Post
    The correct answer
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    Originally Posted by raytayse View Post
    So your deduction is exactly what you quoted me saying, but MY deduction needs work???

    Hmmm. This has turned into a Troll thread.
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    You keep editing your posts

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    You guys still think it is Joe?

    Since when can Joe drive?
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    So the correct answer was "The victim"?
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    Originally Posted by Kadafi25 View Post
    Negged.
    Welcome to the misc, where everyone trolls but when you make a joke based on a easy problem people go crazy.
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    Originally Posted by Breaktalents View Post
    You guys still think it is Joe?

    Since when can Joe drive?
    Noob. Nobody has been saying Joe killed anybody since the first page.

    It's either

    Sam killed Joe (Deathly afraid of a guy in a wheelchair, gets revenge)
    Hank killed Sam (Only other logical option, Hank seen 4 blocks from the shooting 5 minutes later)

    Not enough evidence for Sam killing Joe, one shred of evidence (Hank being seen 5 minutes after the shooting 4 blocks away). Hank is the killer, Sam is the victim. Joe also supposedly ''hated the victim''. Sam supposedly deathly afraid of Joe.

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    Originally Posted by Breaktalents View Post
    Welcome to the misc, where everyone trolls but when you make a joke based on a easy problem people go crazy.
    Trolling is one thing but I fuking cannot stand it when kunts on here present a problem or a question and don't provide an answer after three fuking pages. That and the "you will shiit bricks when you see it threads" piss me off beyond belief when answers are not provided. Literally going to neg on sight from now on.
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    Originally Posted by Zylantypic View Post
    Hank killed Sam

    negging OP in 5 minutes if he doesn't confirm.

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    Originally Posted by Kadafi25 View Post
    Trolling is one thing but I fuking cannot stand it when kunts on here present a problem or a question and don't provide an answer after three fuking pages. That and the "you will shiit bricks when you see it threads" piss me off beyond belief when answers are not provided. Literally going to neg on sight from now on.
    Yeah you are right lol, hank killed sam. srs.
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    Originally Posted by Psychotropic View Post
    No

    You keep editing your posts

    Your original post did not use deduction. Deal with it
    You ****ing quoted my edit.

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