Looking good knees have to travel past the toes to hit full depth, you can not hit full depth while staying upright without knee travel.
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Thread: MISC i squatted 315 x 5 today
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01-31-2014, 08:03 AM #31
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01-31-2014, 08:05 AM #32
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01-31-2014, 08:10 AM #33
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01-31-2014, 08:11 AM #34
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01-31-2014, 08:16 AM #37
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01-31-2014, 08:17 AM #38
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01-31-2014, 08:18 AM #39
Again, your squat is fine. But with a high bar position you would be able to stay more upright. It's a suggestion. But I would not sit back or change your movement at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9TQVhZX2O8
go to aroun 6:05. It's not a great angle and there's a better video out there, but Kolecki used a much lower bar position than most other weightlifters you will see. And yeah it seemed to work.
And as far as the last few reps go, it was a PR dude. PRs and max weights will likely never be 100% perfect, especially if its a set of 5. It's fine.@thighsofsteel_chs
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01-31-2014, 08:18 AM #40
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01-31-2014, 08:25 AM #44
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01-31-2014, 08:26 AM #45
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01-31-2014, 08:27 AM #46
Olympic weightlifting has one of the lowest injury rates of any sport. Chances are max lifts aren't going to be on point every time. You'll cringe if you've never done it. If you have, then you likely won't. It's like his squat. Form was fine. I've seen videos where I cringe at the lift. His wasn't one of them.
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Charleston, SC
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01-31-2014, 08:28 AM #47
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01-31-2014, 08:30 AM #48
Fair enough and well worked point.
I have a tenancy to look at longevity. But don't get me wrong I squat and dead too just like everyone. Olympic weight lifters have a low injury because lets be real, they are good?! They are basically pros at what they do. OP's lift was fine, it really was I just hate seeing people do the leg drive then good morning after.
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01-31-2014, 08:30 AM #49
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01-31-2014, 08:34 AM #51
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01-31-2014, 08:43 AM #52
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01-31-2014, 08:45 AM #53
They have a low injury rate because of that and most of them are pretty resilient due to their mobility. Take Mattias Steiner at the '12 Olympics. Dropped over 400lbs on his neck. Walked away fine. Plus weightlifting is a pretty controlled sport. Not a lot of random variables to cause problems. The recent crossfit injury with the dude separating his spine has never happened in a weightlifting meet, so I don't even count that towards to injury rate.
That's why I recommended a high bar placement just for experimentation sake, since he's basically doing an awesome "butt to ankles" squat anyway. The good morning thing isn't good, but you will likely have something like that on a heavy/max lift. Happens to just about everyone, myself included. As long as 90%+ of your reps are on point, you're good to go. Max lifts will always be a bit off, just try to minimize the errors as much as possible.@thighsofsteel_chs
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01-31-2014, 08:45 AM #54
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01-31-2014, 08:47 AM #55
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01-31-2014, 08:50 AM #56
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01-31-2014, 08:59 AM #58
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01-31-2014, 09:01 AM #59
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01-31-2014, 09:03 AM #60
I think the opposite. Low bar will likely have you good morning more simply due to the fact that you have more forward lean. you sit back on your heels more and your torso is more forward, therefore you tend to use the posterior chain. High bar usually has you more upright, your body is "stacked" if you will, weight is in the heel/mid foot, using more quad.
Again, I've seen the low bar-ish position with a "high-bar" style squat. Seen it work and in the OP's case it's clearly working well.
I'm of the opinion that the more upright, the better. In the long run the more upright and stacked you can squat the better off you will be in regards to mobility, posture, leg strength, etc. I also think the more forward you go, the more likely you are to get injured, from personnel experience. I have long legs, crappy ankle flexibility, and have to work hard on mobility. Without weightlifting shoes, my torso is about 35-40 degrees. With weighlifting shoes it's about 10 or so. The more upright I am the better. That's why I'm a fan of front squats. Forces better body position.
EDIT: I'm not saying that there is anything inherently wrong with low bar squatting. Some people will never be able to squat butt to ankles, upright torso, etc simply due to body structure. There's a really good article out there that makes this point using bones to show differences in limb length, structure, joint direction, hip structure, etc and how they will affect one's squat technique.Last edited by Fury22; 01-31-2014 at 09:08 AM.
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