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01-07-2014, 07:13 AM #61
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01-07-2014, 07:15 AM #62
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01-07-2014, 07:16 AM #63
no no, I agree, they are horrendous especially for deadlifting. Usually brand new gyms that open up the owners feel the need to buy those shitty plates, simply because they're the newest "model" on the market. The majority of gyms in the US still use the original IVANKO plates.
I'd say sports clubs are guilty of using those the most, simply because they are new and look "fashionable"
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01-07-2014, 07:17 AM #64
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01-07-2014, 07:19 AM #65
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01-07-2014, 07:19 AM #66
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01-07-2014, 07:21 AM #67
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01-07-2014, 07:21 AM #68
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01-07-2014, 07:21 AM #69
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01-07-2014, 07:22 AM #70
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01-07-2014, 07:23 AM #71
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01-07-2014, 07:24 AM #72
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01-07-2014, 07:24 AM #73
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01-07-2014, 07:28 AM #74
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01-07-2014, 07:31 AM #75Controlled Labs Warder
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I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
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01-07-2014, 07:33 AM #76
Wasn't a 1rm, he doesn't deadlift often, he's not a powerlifter, actually used good form. Also although he says he's been training for 6 years its likely that a majority of those years were spent just learning what to do and wasting time so really he's probably been training correctly for 2-3 years.
I know everyone on the misc deadlifts 500 in the first 6 months of training but for a vast majority of trainees with average genetics Ian's results are fairly typical. You guys act like everyone in the gym deadlifts 330 yet 95% of people never even go past 185 in most commercial gyms. He's doing just fine.
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01-07-2014, 07:33 AM #77
lmao this ******* looks like a skeleton wrapped in garbage and covered in chit, who the fuk is he to give anyone advice?
spells restauruant wrong every single time CREW
can't stop picking my nose CREW
can't eat unless watching diners , drive-ins and dives CREW
toenails sharp enough to cut through adamantium CREW
leave the tap running while brushing my teeth CREW
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01-07-2014, 07:37 AM #78
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You ever used hex plates? The problem is, unless you put it down exactly where it started (and the weights didn't roll on the bar even a tiny bit), you end up putting the plate on a corner and then it rolls in either direction to a flat part.
They're absolutely terrible. And the worst part is you can't then roll it closer to you, since it's a damn hex. With round plates, if it does end up rolling away, you can just roll it back. With hex, you have to adjust your feet.
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01-07-2014, 07:39 AM #79
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01-07-2014, 07:39 AM #80
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01-07-2014, 07:42 AM #81
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01-07-2014, 07:42 AM #82
Agreed. I have busted my shins up many times with those damned things. I get why they use them, to avoid bars rolling around everywhere but if you do any kind of ground based movements (which most commercial gym goers do not) they are a real pain in the butt.
And as I say in every Ian thread; he looks fine, makes decent progress and obviously knows a decent amount. It is the way he goes about his business that turns me off. No matter how intelligent you are, someone will always know more than you. The fact that he is constantly saying he encourages open, honest debate then blocks those who disagree or criticize him is not a good way to handle things.
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01-07-2014, 07:45 AM #83
Implying most people in commercial gyms have YouTube accounts associated with how to be a bodybuilder (with science, mind you) and have dedicated themselves to doing just that.
His gains are not impressive, no matter how you cut it. (helps that he only posts photos and vids with pumps, now)
I'm inclined to believe that he's so obsessed with the nature of the literature he reads, that he sees no flexibility or room for error and removes the primal and human aspect from the actions, and ends up lifting like a grandma after swolling 3 *****. He's gained a little mass this year but it's entirely fat, he's bulking as hard as he can.
If I were Ian... I'd make an excuse to take 3 months off, and come back after a cycle. The words he says are never going to have long-standing credence among anybody serious about lifting until he does it.
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01-07-2014, 07:48 AM #84
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01-07-2014, 07:50 AM #85
This.
The GREATEST IRONY with Ian is that his intellect actually ended up being something that held him back. He understood how to diet, he understood how to gain size and he obviously understood how to target the muscle, yet he does this utterly DAFT TUT (Time Under Tension) training which obviously doesn't maximize gains and if anything gives him sub par results, yet he hard headedly sticks with it. He needs to **** off with this training, do a proper PPL split or something along the lines of that (actually his split may not even need changing). but what he 100% DOES NEED TO CHANGE is the TUT and just lift regularly.
Within 2.5 months of doing SS I hit 315 for 5, form wasn't great, but still I was only 170 or so at the time.
If you need longer than a year to hit a 365 deadlift, then you're doing something terribly wrong....let alone half a decade+
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01-07-2014, 07:53 AM #86
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01-07-2014, 07:59 AM #87
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01-07-2014, 08:01 AM #88
It's just odd to me that every 5 minutes on the misc I see a thread saying form>weight or someone posts the kai greene "i'll never be a weightlifter" video but when Ian says it everyone just says he trains like sh!t. In that video he's rowing 110lb dumbbells but nobody mentions that and in his video with extreme j's fitness he was squatting like 265 for reps. Not impressive by weightlifting standards but for someone interested in bodybuilding those really aren't abysmal numbers. Even Zyzz use to say he never squatted past 225 and we all know how much he is praised around here. I think people just like to make fun of Ian because they don't like him.
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01-07-2014, 08:04 AM #89
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01-07-2014, 08:04 AM #90
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