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    Originally Posted by iggyazaleacrew View Post
    lol ok, if you think his gains are good for a natty you need to up your training, seriously. he has been lifting for six years
    Clarification: His gains over the past year have been good. Videos I saw of him 1 year ago show him being noticeably less shapely.

    So basically I'm trying to say I think he got his chit together finally in the past year or so.
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    Originally Posted by kanis999 View Post
    Clarification: His gains over the past year have been good. Videos I saw of him 1 year ago show him being noticeably less shapely.

    So basically I'm trying to say I think he got his chit together finally in the past year or so.
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    Originally Posted by Szarko View Post
    Ummm.

    What is up with America and those fuarkking chit hex shaped plates man?

    Legit only country I have ever seen such chitty plate designs used in gyms.

    Why don't people just complain and force them to change? I would never ever lift with that chit.
    no no, I agree, they are horrendous especially for deadlifting. Usually brand new gyms that open up the owners feel the need to buy those shitty plates, simply because they're the newest "model" on the market. The majority of gyms in the US still use the original IVANKO plates.

    I'd say sports clubs are guilty of using those the most, simply because they are new and look "fashionable"
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    Originally Posted by Techriding101 View Post
    aye brah i am in sterling, where do you train
    Nice! Sport + Health Gym in Reston or Tyson's.

    Just curious, without being overt, is the implication of your profile name true?
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    Originally Posted by iggyazaleacrew View Post
    isnt this guy proof that there is NO EXACT science behind bodybuilding

    he follows all the principals of science based lifting yet look at him
    Lol, his hormonal profile sucks...how is that not science?
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    Originally Posted by kanis999 View Post
    Nice! Sport + Health Gym in Reston or Tyson's.

    Just curious, without being overt, is the implication of your profile name true?
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    Originally Posted by iggyazaleacrew View Post
    what i meant to is there is no exact science

    relax you dweeb

    edit: went to your bodyspace. as expected another skinnyfat ******* who preaches science over everything for training
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    Originally Posted by iggyazaleacrew View Post
    isnt this guy proof that there is NO EXACT science behind bodybuilding

    he follows all the principals of science based lifting yet look at him
    he trains brosplit actually, proof why those splits suck if anything
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    Wasn't a 1rm, he doesn't deadlift often, he's not a powerlifter, actually used good form. Also although he says he's been training for 6 years its likely that a majority of those years were spent just learning what to do and wasting time so really he's probably been training correctly for 2-3 years.

    I know everyone on the misc deadlifts 500 in the first 6 months of training but for a vast majority of trainees with average genetics Ian's results are fairly typical. You guys act like everyone in the gym deadlifts 330 yet 95% of people never even go past 185 in most commercial gyms. He's doing just fine.
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    lmao this ******* looks like a skeleton wrapped in garbage and covered in chit, who the fuk is he to give anyone advice?
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    Originally Posted by du3ce View Post
    btw the hex weights are perfect for dl because they dont roll away
    You ever used hex plates? The problem is, unless you put it down exactly where it started (and the weights didn't roll on the bar even a tiny bit), you end up putting the plate on a corner and then it rolls in either direction to a flat part.

    They're absolutely terrible. And the worst part is you can't then roll it closer to you, since it's a damn hex. With round plates, if it does end up rolling away, you can just roll it back. With hex, you have to adjust your feet.
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    lmao this ******* looks like a skeleton wrapped in garbage and covered in chit, who the fuk is he to give anyone advice?
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    considering he doesn't really do deadlifts its pretty good. you guys try doing 1 half assed set a week and see if you make any gains in 6 years.
    still he should be doing deadlifts more, no reason to ignore them unless you got a fuked up back. and lol at the guy in back around 30 secs in
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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    You ever used hex plates? The problem is, unless you put it down exactly where it started (and the weights didn't roll on the bar even a tiny bit), you end up putting the plate on a corner and then it rolls in either direction to a flat part.

    They're absolutely terrible. And the worst part is you can't then roll it closer to you, since it's a damn hex. With round plates, if it does end up rolling away, you can just roll it back. With hex, you have to adjust your feet.
    Agreed. I have busted my shins up many times with those damned things. I get why they use them, to avoid bars rolling around everywhere but if you do any kind of ground based movements (which most commercial gym goers do not) they are a real pain in the butt.

    And as I say in every Ian thread; he looks fine, makes decent progress and obviously knows a decent amount. It is the way he goes about his business that turns me off. No matter how intelligent you are, someone will always know more than you. The fact that he is constantly saying he encourages open, honest debate then blocks those who disagree or criticize him is not a good way to handle things.
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    Originally Posted by ahox View Post
    I know everyone on the misc deadlifts 500 in the first 6 months of training but for a vast majority of trainees with average genetics Ian's results are fairly typical. You guys act like everyone in the gym deadlifts 330 yet 95% of people never even go past 185 in most commercial gyms. He's doing just fine.
    Implying most people in commercial gyms have YouTube accounts associated with how to be a bodybuilder (with science, mind you) and have dedicated themselves to doing just that.

    His gains are not impressive, no matter how you cut it. (helps that he only posts photos and vids with pumps, now)

    I'm inclined to believe that he's so obsessed with the nature of the literature he reads, that he sees no flexibility or room for error and removes the primal and human aspect from the actions, and ends up lifting like a grandma after swolling 3 *****. He's gained a little mass this year but it's entirely fat, he's bulking as hard as he can.

    If I were Ian... I'd make an excuse to take 3 months off, and come back after a cycle. The words he says are never going to have long-standing credence among anybody serious about lifting until he does it.
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    Originally Posted by Smithers115 View Post
    Lol at this ******* spending like 100 bucks on those gasp shorts

    edit: lol at using straps for like 2-3 plates
    Lol at him wearing GASP chit period
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    Originally Posted by BankerBruz View Post
    Implying most people in commercial gyms have YouTube accounts associated with how to be a bodybuilder (with science, mind you) and have dedicated themselves to doing just that.

    His gains are not impressive, no matter how you cut it. (helps that he only posts photos and vids with pumps, now)

    I'm inclined to believe that he's so obsessed with the nature of the literature he reads, that he sees no flexibility or room for error and removes the primal and human aspect from the actions, and ends up lifting like a grandma after swolling 3 *****. He's gained a little mass this year but it's entirely fat, he's bulking as hard as he can.

    If I were Ian... I'd make an excuse to take 3 months off, and come back after a cycle. The words he says are never going to have long-standing credence among anybody serious about lifting until he does it.
    This.

    The GREATEST IRONY with Ian is that his intellect actually ended up being something that held him back. He understood how to diet, he understood how to gain size and he obviously understood how to target the muscle, yet he does this utterly DAFT TUT (Time Under Tension) training which obviously doesn't maximize gains and if anything gives him sub par results, yet he hard headedly sticks with it. He needs to **** off with this training, do a proper PPL split or something along the lines of that (actually his split may not even need changing). but what he 100% DOES NEED TO CHANGE is the TUT and just lift regularly.

    Within 2.5 months of doing SS I hit 315 for 5, form wasn't great, but still I was only 170 or so at the time.

    If you need longer than a year to hit a 365 deadlift, then you're doing something terribly wrong....let alone half a decade+
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    Originally Posted by ahox View Post
    Wasn't a 1rm, he doesn't deadlift often, he's not a powerlifter, actually used good form. Also although he says he's been training for 6 years its likely that a majority of those years were spent just learning what to do and wasting time so really he's probably been training correctly for 2-3 years.

    I know everyone on the misc deadlifts 500 in the first 6 months of training but for a vast majority of trainees with average genetics Ian's results are fairly typical. You guys act like everyone in the gym deadlifts 330 yet 95% of people never even go past 185 in most commercial gyms. He's doing just fine.
    95% of people in commercial gyms don't even train legs dude, does that mean that it's normal to not train legs? This is a bodybuilding site and we have bodybuilding standards. If someone weighs above 160 lbs and doesn't deadlift 3 plates after one year, he is doing it WRONG.
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    Originally Posted by makfromportland View Post




    Young Ian Mccarthy

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    you phucking cheeky ****, u !
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    Originally Posted by BankerBruz View Post
    Implying most people in commercial gyms have YouTube accounts associated with how to be a bodybuilder (with science, mind you) and have dedicated themselves to doing just that.

    His gains are not impressive, no matter how you cut it. (helps that he only posts photos and vids with pumps, now)

    I'm inclined to believe that he's so obsessed with the nature of the literature he reads, that he sees no flexibility or room for error and removes the primal and human aspect from the actions, and ends up lifting like a grandma after swolling 3 *****. He's gained a little mass this year but it's entirely fat, he's bulking as hard as he can.

    If I were Ian... I'd make an excuse to take 3 months off, and come back after a cycle. The words he says are never going to have long-standing credence among anybody serious about lifting until he does it.
    It's just odd to me that every 5 minutes on the misc I see a thread saying form>weight or someone posts the kai greene "i'll never be a weightlifter" video but when Ian says it everyone just says he trains like sh!t. In that video he's rowing 110lb dumbbells but nobody mentions that and in his video with extreme j's fitness he was squatting like 265 for reps. Not impressive by weightlifting standards but for someone interested in bodybuilding those really aren't abysmal numbers. Even Zyzz use to say he never squatted past 225 and we all know how much he is praised around here. I think people just like to make fun of Ian because they don't like him.
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    Originally Posted by ahox View Post
    It's just odd to me that every 5 minutes on the misc I see a thread saying form>weight or someone posts the kai greene "i'll never be a weightlifter" video but when Ian says it everyone just says he trains like sh!t. In that video he's rowing 110lb dumbbells but nobody mentions that and in his video with extreme j's fitness he was squatting like 265 for reps. Not impressive by weightlifting standards but for someone interested in bodybuilding those really aren't abysmal numbers. Even Zyzz use to say he never squatted past 225 and we all know how much he is praised around here. I think people just like to make fun of Ian because they don't like him.
    do you realize how much kai greene can lift? do you think he got that way squatting 225? He incline benches 4 plates
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    I don't understand why this kid has any sort of following
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