Political Break-down of the Misc

[Posthardcore]

that girl webcam repped me for this post because shes a socialist

Hey I'm partly socialist too now!! (no rep beg) lulz

[webcam]

that girl webcam repped me for this post because shes a socialist

that wasnt very nice, please keep my reps and rep comments private, they are between us

[kusok]

Yes but that was not really the point I was making.

My point is that some people are ready to take some up the angus (even if they don't want to) to have access to some other perks.

There's no real benefit to being raped. There's a sense of security that comes with a government (even though it's debatable). So it's a stretch to make the comparison.

I personally don't want government or it's perks. Thus the comparison is legit. It's done against my will, as is rape against the will of the rape victim. There are perks to being in a gulag also, you will be fed and clothed, doesn't mean it's fine.

Voluntarism is all that matters.

[Posthardcore]

I personally don't want government or it's perks. Thus the comparison is legit. It's done against my will, as is rape against the will of the rape victim. There are perks to being in a gulag also, you will be fed and clothed, doesn't mean it's fine.

Yes, but because there are perks to having a government and no perks to being raped, you need to address why you don't want the perks and government rather than comparing it to something that nobody would want.

[kusok]

Yes, but because there are perks to having a government and no perks to being raped, you need to address why you don't want the perks and government rather than comparing it to something that nobody would want.

I don't need to address it at all. I don't want government because I feel like it. End of story. This is enough reason. I don't need ANY reason actually. I can reject something just because. For any, or for no reason.

And if someone wants government they likewise don't need to explain or prove to me why they want it. Knock yourself out. Send Obama a check.

And I don't see perks in government anyway. I disagree that there are perks. TO ME there are no perks in government, that should be explanation enough. And there is PLENTY of rape under government. What do you think those soldiers in Middle East do with 15 year old girls? Military women report rapes in alarmingly high numbers, Prisons have hundreds of thousands of rapes per year, police shove their hands up your ass all the time now at checkpoints when their german shepherd smells drugs etc. Rape is initiation of force, same as government is. Maybe some messed up girl sees perks in getting raped before she goes to an unsafe party, she is imagining law suits or fulfillment of some messed up fantasy. What do I care?.. I don't see those perks.

[Posthardcore]

I don't need to address it at all. I don't want government because I feel like it. End of story. This is enough reason. I don't need ANY reason actually. I can reject something just because. For any, or for no reason.

And if someone wants government they likewise don't need to explain or prove to me why they want it. Knock yourself out. Send Obama a check.

And I don't see perks in government anyway. I disagree that there are perks. TO ME there are no perks in government, that should be explanation enough. And there is PLENTY of rape under government. What do you think those soldiers in Middle East do with 15 year old girls? Military women report rapes in alarmingly high numbers, Prisons have hundreds of thousands of rapes per year, police shove their hands up your ass all the time now at checkpoints when their german shepherd smells drugs etc. Rape is initiation of force, same as government is. Maybe some messed up girl sees perks in getting raped before she goes to an unsafe party, she is imagining law suits or fulfillment of some messed up fantasy. What do I care?.. I don't see those perks.

Well you just addressed it lol

[righteousreason]

Back when I was very active on here, I was no into politics or anything like that. I was not raised in a political household and did not become interested until lately. I find some of the posts here interesting and was wondering what the Misc is made up of...is it 50/50, Conservative, Liberal, ect?

So what are you?

your categories are retarded. you have three of them as political parties - but you combine "Democrat" and "Liberal", and there is no "Conservative" option. Then you throw in "socialist" and "independent" and "other". So I don't even know wtf you are asking.

but given that you seem to be mostly asking about which major political party is best, definitely Republican.

[vikesfankevin]

your categories are retarded. you have three of them as political parties - but you combine "Democrat" and "Liberal", and there is no "Conservative" option. Then you throw in "socialist" and "independent" and "other". So I don't even know wtf you are asking.

but given that you seem to be mostly asking about which major political party is best, definitely Republican.

Well it is complicated and there are so many options. I based my options on the most popular views. No, there is no "Conservative" option because Conservative can mean Republican or Libertarian, which are VERY different. Are there different groups of Liberals or Democrats? They seem synonymous to me, or am I missing something? Socialist would be the same as Libertarian. Independent is for the people that cannot make up their mind. Other is for IF YOU DO NOT FIT IN TO ANY OF MY OPTIONS. Feel free to explain. I guess next time I will make a poll with 100 options and ever definition we have ever used. But as is clear in this thread, Libertarians do not agree on things, so how do you expect everyone's view to be represented?

[vikesfankevin]

your categories are retarded. you have three of them as political parties - but you combine "Democrat" and "Liberal", and there is no "Conservative" option. Then you throw in "socialist" and "independent" and "other". So I don't even know wtf you are asking.

but given that you seem to be mostly asking about which major political party is best, definitely Republican.

And what is your issue with Democrat and Liberal being the same? Is there a group of either that does not fit?

[PaulG]

Well it is complicated and there are so many options. I based my options on the most popular views. No, there is no "Conservative" option because Conservative can mean Republican or Libertarian, which are VERY different. Are there different groups of Liberals or Democrats? They seem synonymous to me, or am I missing something? Socialist would be the same as Libertarian. Independent is for the people that cannot make up their mind. Other is for IF YOU DO NOT FIT IN TO ANY OF MY OPTIONS. Feel free to explain. I guess next time I will make a poll with 100 options and ever definition we have ever used. But as is clear in this thread, Libertarians do not agree on things, so how do you expect everyone's view to be represented?

Conservative... cannot mean libertarian. It is the exact opposite of conservative, because it causes for radical change. It is the right wing cool-aid version of left wing marxism.

Libertarian is a subcategory of liberals, just on the right, not in favor of equality. Liberals, progressives, greens and moderates makeup the democrat party. All are very different. Libs, basically think everyone is stupid, that we all could be living in a populist utopia(which no one wants). Progressives, believe that democracy is illegitimate, unless it is their version of democracy(ex. 3 males and 1 female gets elected, means illegitimate democracy because it's biased, insert female quota.) Greens hate the food supply, and everything that is lazy technology. Moderates tend to favor democrats for some reason.

[Messier_Object]

Traditional republican.
God. Family. Country. Respect the constitution. Limited government. Pro individual and civil rights (every man created equal). Traditional.

[stevematic]

In Australia I'm right-wing, but the US would consider me a liberal... I think if I lived in the US I'd be voting for Libertarian candidates.

[stezus]

Somewhere between Independent-Conservative-Libertarian-Nationalist and a tinge of fascism when i'm roused enough.

[BEATINGU]

I am a supporter of the tea party and a Ted Cruz Republican. If you want my honest opinion: I consider most of the R/P to be pretty left leaning. Socially they support queer marriage, drugs, pro-abortion. Foreign policy wise most of them want to dismantle the military, close US bases, end support for Israel and other allies. Half of libertarians or so want to make cuts to welfare, lower taxes, and protect gun rights which I am happy about, but I feel like the other half aren't genuine or passionate about it. They are a mixed bunch but lots of them have liberal motivations.

[Messier_Object]

I am a supporter of the tea party and a Ted Cruz Republican. If you want my honest opinion: I consider most of the R/P to be pretty left leaning. Socially they support queer marriage, drugs, pro-abortion. Foreign policy wise most of them want to dismantle the military, close US bases, end support for Israel and other allies. Half of libertarians or so want to make cuts to welfare, lower taxes, and protect gun rights which I am happy about, but I feel like the other half aren't genuine or passionate about it. They are a mixed bunch but lots of them have liberal motivations.

All of this. Another reason I don't consider myself a libertarian is because they don't have s solid platform which is why they aren't viable. Everyone has their own idea of what libertarian means.

[DocHol1day]

Yes, but because there are perks to having a government and no perks to being raped, you need to address why you don't want the perks and government rather than comparing it to something that nobody would want.

what do you mean? rape "victims" get sex! everyone wants sex amirite?


fukking idiot

[righteousreason]

I am a supporter of the tea party and a Ted Cruz Republican. If you want my honest opinion: I consider most of the R/P to be pretty left leaning. Socially they support queer marriage, drugs, pro-abortion. Foreign policy wise most of them want to dismantle the military, close US bases, end support for Israel and other allies. Half of libertarians or so want to make cuts to welfare, lower taxes, and protect gun rights which I am happy about, but I feel like the other half aren't genuine or passionate about it. They are a mixed bunch but lots of them have liberal motivations.

Holy chit he's back!

Hooray!

[Posthardcore]

what do you mean? rape "victims" get sex! everyone wants sex amirite?


fukking idiot

wtf are you even talking about?

[DocHol1day]

wtf are you even talking about?

you said there are perks to government but no perks to rape. i pointed out where you are wrong. everything is subjective, right? so if kusok values consent over the so called benefits then there is no perk to government. if not, then there is an arguable perk to rape, being the so called victim gets to enjoy a fun activity aka sex.

oh geeze, i guess consent is kind of a big deal after all

[Posthardcore]

you said there are perks to government but no perks to rape. i pointed out where you are wrong. everything is subjective, right? so if kusok values consent over the so called benefits then there is no perk to government. if not, then there is an arguable perk to rape, being the so called victim gets to enjoy a fun activity aka sex.

oh geeze, i guess consent is kind of a big deal after all

uwotm8

are you drunk or high mate? There might be certain perks to a government but he values consent over it which would make it different than rape which nobody would want

this is pointless as he explained his views

[kusok]

this forum is getting more Libertarian. Next election the ticket of anarcho emperor kusok The Third and vise-emperor Stizzel will destroy the Scooba Steevo eugenics and religious ticket.

[Posthardcore]

this forum is getting more Libertarian. Next election the ticket of anarcho emperor kusok The Third and vise-emperor Stizzel will destroy the Scooba Steevo eugenics and religious ticket.

How are you going to win an election if you're againt a government in the first place?

check mate.

he he he

[DocHol1day]

uwotm8

are you drunk or high mate? There might be certain perks to a government but he values consent over it which would make it different than rape which nobody would want

this is pointless as he explained his views

No he views government as rape thats why you cant claim government has any benefit for him.

[Bullroarer]

I've said stuff here that people from any part of the political spectrum could consider offensive. The only people who've ever negged me for it were the tea partiers. I've told a couple gay guys here, "I'm okay with Russians bashing their gays, it's cool," with nary a neg, but talk about about taxes or guns and Jesus fukking Christ. Easily the most thin-skinned people here.

[lasher]

I've said stuff here that people from any part of the political spectrum could consider offensive. The only people who've ever negged me for it were the tea partiers. I've told a couple gay guys here, "I'm okay with Russians bashing their gays, it's cool," with nary a neg, but talk about about taxes or guns and Jesus fukking Christ. Easily the most thin-skinned people here.

negged

edit: fuark! on spread!

[lasher]

this forum is getting more Libertarian. Next election the ticket of anarcho emperor kusok The Third and vise-emperor Stizzel will destroy the Scooba Steevo eugenics and religious ticket.

I have Jesus on my side bruh. The next r/p election is pretty much set in stone.

With my experience as the VP of our great leader Scubo, combined with my divine authority granted by the almighty, I shall lead the R/P into a glorious theocracy of peace.

[Spartacus777]

Probably pointed out but OP confuses political parties and ideologies in that poll.

[Bullroarer]

negged

edit: fuark! on spread!

And to think I almost repped you for something you said in another thread. Negging your sorry ass next chance I get!

[stealth_swimmer]

Libertarians are over-represented in the poll. There are way too many sexists on here for there to be that many libertarians.

[stealth_swimmer]

Probably pointed out but OP confuses political parties and ideologies in that poll.

Yeah, but it's close enough.