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    Thumbs up Phil Heath On Stage In Greece!

    From a recent appearance/seminar he did in Greece, speaking on stage about the significance of competing and his dream as a young athlete.





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    Not to be mean, but I'm really bored of hearing him talk about being in D1 basketball and how that shaped him to be competitive... and on and one. I respect that he's proud of his basketball/collegiate accomplishments, but at this point its comparable to a broken record or hearing your Grandfather tell the same old war stories over and over again.

    Every time Phil is on stage I expect three things: 1) an impressive physique, 2) something about his basketball career, 3) and crying.



    That said, nice find.
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    Originally Posted by HeroesFall View Post
    Not to be mean, but I'm really bored of hearing him talk about being in D1 basketball and how that shaped him to be competitive... and on and one. I respect that he's proud of his basketball/collegiate accomplishments, but at this point its comparable to a broken record or hearing your Grandfather tell the same old war stories over and over again.

    Every time Phil is on stage I expect three things: 1) an impressive physique, 2) something about his basketball career, 3) and crying.



    That said, nice find.
    He should come up with a creative new past to tantalize people like RoRo.


    He does a lot of these. It's part of his "job" right? He would have to keep telling the same/similar story each time. For a lot of the people sitting there in the audience, it's new. For others, they don't care coz they're seeing Phil in the flesh so "yay".

    You follow the pros like a hawk. You watch this **** all the time. Of course it's going to start sounding like a broken record.

    Now go outside and play.
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    Originally Posted by DPNZ View Post
    He should come up with a creative new past to tantalize people like RoRo.


    He does a lot of these. It's part of his "job" right? He would have to keep telling the same/similar story each time. For a lot of the people sitting there in the audience, it's new. For others, they don't care coz they're seeing Phil in the flesh so "yay".

    You follow the pros like a hawk. You watch this **** all the time. Of course it's going to start sounding like a broken record.

    Now go outside and play.
    Exactly right. We see pretty much every piece of new content released by a pro. Of course it's going to sound like a broken record after a while.

    I viewed the clip with the sound off and just marveled at the forearms hanging off his forearms.
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    I can't go outside and play, I'm at work right now :-(.

    You're right that those of us follow the sport hear a broken record when we follow folks a lot, but I don't really notice it with others as much (Kai, Wolf - except the "you know" phrase, etc)

    Though you have to admit, it is sad if you're muting a conference and just oogling his forearms....
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    Originally Posted by HeroesFall View Post
    Though you have to admit, it is sad if you're muting a conference and just oogling his forearms....
    No sound card on my work computer but yes, the "oogling" is kind of sad when I think about it.
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    DPNZ is right. Anyone who gets paid to speak publicly develops a script to follow. A lot of these appearances can last for over an hour, and people just want to hear the reigning Mr. Olympia talk. To be honest, he could say just about anything, and they'd be interested. It's best to speak from experience, and tell it like it is. As much as I'd like to see an underdog take the title, there's no doubt Phil is a great champion.
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    Not disagreeing at all on Phil's legitimacy as a champion, just tired of the basketball talk. Tell me more about your lifting experience, how you climbed the ranks, what trials and tribulations you went through there. I honestly don't care about the basketball career, grats you're athletic.

    I AM interested in your lifting career - as I imagine most people who go to hear him speak are. You can be scripted, but you should also try to speak to your target audience on point. This isn't me "hating" our current champ, just tired of hearing about something that has nothing to do with THIS sport. Its on par with someone swapping sports during their career and when being asked about their current experience, they always refer to the glory days of their prior sport. Tell me about now, I'm in the now, I'm a fan because of where you are now.

    I'm just a stickler I guess. I will give credit though, Phil does speak well, he doesn't fumble or shy away from the camera.
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    Originally Posted by HeroesFall View Post
    Not disagreeing at all on Phil's legitimacy as a champion, just tired of the basketball talk. Tell me more about your lifting experience, how you climbed the ranks, what trials and tribulations you went through there. I honestly don't care about the basketball career, grats you're athletic.

    I AM interested in your lifting career - as I imagine most people who go to hear him speak are. You can be scripted, but you should also try to speak to your target audience on point. This isn't me "hating" our current champ, just tired of hearing about something that has nothing to do with THIS sport. Its on par with someone swapping sports during their career and when being asked about their current experience, they always refer to the glory days of their prior sport. Tell me about now, I'm in the now, I'm a fan because of where you are now.

    I'm just a stickler I guess. I will give credit though, Phil does speak well, he doesn't fumble or shy away from the camera.
    But maybe he feels inspired by his struggles as a basketball player and it made him who he is as a competitor. It's his life story, you have nothing to be a stickler about. He said several times about supporting the people that were amateurs because they have dreams of being a champion.
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    I would imagine that if someone is to excel at a sport at high level of competition that that sport has to become their life. So if Basketball was his previous life before bodybuilding, oh me oh my how dare he talk about it a lot! Oh my jimmies!










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    Was suprised how bad the audio quality was due to the servere echoing in the building phil was speaking in, they should have employed some kind of audio tech to make Phil easier to hear, some fabric on the walls would have helped, maybe a large wide picture of Wolf in rear double bi. Will watch it all later and try to catch all the words said.

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    Dem forearms!
    agreed...his pronator muscle has a better peak than my biceps! LOL....
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    DPNZ is right. Anyone who gets paid to speak publicly develops a script to follow. A lot of these appearances can last for over an hour, and people just want to hear the reigning Mr. Olympia talk. To be honest, he could say just about anything, and they'd be interested. It's best to speak from experience, and tell it like it is. As much as I'd like to see an underdog take the title, there's no doubt Phil is a great champion.
    correct, plus, and unfortunately, it is this circuit route that winners have to take during the year, that detract from their training...eventually, and usually, it knocks them back a bit....

    Phil may be the exception to that rule...for now....
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    correct, plus, and unfortunately, it is this circuit route that winners have to take during the year, that detract from their training...eventually, and usually, it knocks them back a bit....

    Phil may be the exception to that rule...for now....
    Phil was beaten in many poses by Wolf and Kai that he has very little room for error. Phil is world #1 but the world # 2 and world #3 have the goods to beat him. Kai proved this at the Prague Pro and Wolf proved this at the Olympia. Wolf's arms are also fast catching up to Heath's.

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    Originally Posted by HeroesFall View Post
    Not to be mean, but I'm really bored of hearing him talk about being in D1 basketball and how that shaped him to be competitive... and on and one. I respect that he's proud of his basketball/collegiate accomplishments, but at this point its comparable to a broken record or hearing your Grandfather tell the same old war stories over and over again.

    Every time Phil is on stage I expect three things: 1) an impressive physique, 2) something about his basketball career, 3) and crying.



    That said, nice find.
    And every interview includes some mention of all the other "amazing athletes."
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    Phil was beaten in many poses by Wolf and Kai that he has very little room for error. Phil is world #1 but the world # 2 and world #3 have the goods to beat him. Kai proved this at the Prague Pro and Wolf proved this at the Olympia. Wolf's arms are also fast catching up to Heath's.

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    phil clearly winning here unless traps and conditioning do not mean anything.
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    phil clearly winning here unless traps and conditioning do not mean anything.
    Unless size, width and thickness also mean nothing.
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    Originally Posted by mifune View Post
    Wolf really needs a ripped ass to win an Olympia.
    I kinda doubt he'd be awarded a sandow even if he did let the judges do that.
    It is with people like you that this sport will never grow. "When you say, everything and anything to be pro, do you mean even to turn HOMO?...

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    When did the whole ripped glute thing start?? Some great physiques lose placings because of the lack of..
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    Originally Posted by PeterStark View Post
    When did the whole ripped glute thing start?? Some great physiques lose placings because of the lack of..
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    Originally Posted by antish View Post
    phil clearly winning here unless traps and conditioning do not mean anything.
    He may have thicker traps but how can you possibly not see that Kai's lats are way thicker than Phil's? They are on another level, not to mention the legs... You must be blind or just straight up biased to not acknowledge that Kai's back is the best back in this shot.
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    Originally Posted by RoroCwalker View Post
    Unless size, width and thickness also mean nothing.
    Not really. Phil holds his own in size and thickness. Only thing seriously outsized is lat width.

    And not sure if it was mentioned in this thread or not, but despite Phil's proportions, he still manages to have freak-factor. Those delts are insane(and yes, the 3D look to his physique, the way stuff pops out, etc).


    Originally Posted by tom11 View Post
    He may have thicker traps but how can you possibly not see that Kai's lats are way thicker than Phil's? They are on another level, not to mention the legs... You must be blind or just straight up biased to not acknowledge that Kai's back is the best back in this shot.

    Yes, Kai's back is better....and Phil is still winning that shot due to conditioning. He's holding his own in size while being clearly sharper. Kai is just bigger. Again, if it were all about size, Ramy should've been top 3 or even winning. I sincerely hope nobody believes Ramy should've won the Olympia this year.
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    Let's agree to disagree.

    Phil was holding own indeed but wasn't enough for Kai. His structure is getting exposed from both sides.

    It's not a few striations on the glutes that'll take away Kai's incredible thickness,detail width and legs, not to mention, his arms are hidden.
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    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    Not really. Phil holds his own in size and thickness. Only thing seriously outsized is lat width.


    So much more thickness on kai's lats. Even his traps don't look that bad next to phil, at least compared to 2012. He also got himself further away from the camera yet again, but by now he should know better.
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    Originally Posted by HeroesFall View Post
    Tell me more about your lifting experience, how you climbed the ranks, what trials and tribulations you went through there.
    He got up every morning, brushed his teeth and lifted weights. Kinda ate a few times in the meantime too.

    What the hell do you honestly expect these people to say? They're exactly like you, only better at doing the whole bodybuilding gig.

    Also thread devolving as usual, stay classy folks.
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    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    Yes, Kai's back is better....and Phil is still winning that shot due to conditioning. He's holding his own in size while being clearly sharper. Kai is just bigger. Again, if it were all about size, Ramy should've been top 3 or even winning. I sincerely hope nobody believes Ramy should've won the Olympia this year.
    I understand your points but honestly do you think that this extra small amount of conditioning was enough to make up for a bigger difference in size? This whole thing honestly frustrates me. Kai bigger and Phil drier = judges say we favor dryness. Kai has lat striations but not ripped glutes = judges say we favor ripped glutes. It's just too obvious, to be honest I don't look forward for next year's Mr. O because everybody here knows that nobody can dethrone Phil if 2012 Kai couldn't.
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    Phil has had that wow factor since he started competing, so in essence he walks on stage with an advantage. However, Kai did manage to beat Phil once, at the 2010 Arnold Classic.
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