Off duty NYPD officer nearly beaten to death (NSFW)(vid)

[marin3muscl3]

Now you're putting words on my fingers. I never said that. Far from it actually. I made a GENERAL comment, you're taking that as a literal one. That's your fault son.

We all know why you're defending the camereman

[xibalba]

funny how videos identical to this have been posted on the misc for fukin years and no one ever questioned why the guys weren't charged for "attempted murder". legit only reason for this charge over the usual assault charge is because of him being a cop, plain and simple

[flexheal]

Officer Mohamed Deen is stable and ok.

[nwoDmlaC]

annoying as in…all your points are getting hated on by me? the fact none of you can argue with me on an intelligent level and resort to poverty name calling from the start? does that annoy you? annoying because I'm calling you *******s out on you all being butt hurt cry babies?

are you gonna keep crying about it or…?

stop trying so hard to sound smart on the misc you sad kunt

[FitnessJake]

Fuuuuk, this rustled me so hard. As a future LEO, it makes me sick that not a single person stepped in to help. Poor guy was probably enjoying a day off with his wife until this Zoo animal fukked it all up.

[SOunfair]

guy will be treated like a hero by fellow prisoners but routinely fcuked with by the guards

[sloan51]

funny how videos identical to this have been posted on the misc for fukin years and no one ever questioned why the guys weren't charged for "attempted murder". legit only reason for this charge over the usual assault charge is because of him being a cop, plain and simple

ive literally never seen a video on the misc where someone punched an unconscious body for a minute or more. see it where theres a few punches after the KO but nothing to this extent.

Then the guy walked away and came back and resumed. Also tried to attack the guys wife in his car.

We see this on the misc all the time right?

[Cootz4DuhSloots]

So what happens if the Cop has serious brain damage?

Either way NYPD is going to make sure his time in prison is a living hell.

I dunno about NY, but in some places if someone ends up in a coma from an assault they wait about 4 years and if the person doesn't wake up they charge them with murder/manslaughter, whichever applies.

The question it all boils down to is, based on what we see in the video, would a reasonable person have expected the victim to survive such an assault? If the jury believes that a reasonable person would have believed that the cop was dead or that continuing the assault would be almost certainly prove fatal, then the jury can find him guilty of attempted murder.

If he was a professional boxer and he punched him half as much he'd probably get murder, because he would have known full well his ability to kill with his fists. The attacker knew full well his ability to kill an unconscious person with 20-30 punches to the head. Everyone has heard the stories of people dying from a sucker punch and this guy went further than all of the people in those stories. That's just my opinion though. Like I said before, this case won't be tried at face value, it will be tried just like other similar cases even though this case appears unique in that he left and then came back again. I still don't know how the guy is alive.

[Rusty82]

Look at your comment.. it's one big contradiction. Your lashing out right now and taking everything so seriously.. So are we not allowed to show our opinions here? It's a forum. Obviously anyone that watches the video is going to be angry. What do you expect? It's human nature to show emotion after someone being beaten into a coma.. people are mad about the final beat down, then going after his wife and nobody doing anything about it.... It's sick and there's NOTHING logical about the situation. You can't do that to somebody. Period.

didn't even read.

stop trying so hard to sound smart on the misc you sad kunt

did you even graduate high school?

[Rusty82]

Lets be 100 as can be

If a cop did this to a random gang banger he would get a paid vacation......errr I mean suspended with pay

not really apples to apples.

[xibalba]

ive literally never seen a video on the misc where someone punched an unconscious body for a minute or more. see it where theres a few punches after the KO but nothing to this extent.

Then the guy walked away and came back and resumed. Also tried to attack the guys wife in his car.

We see this on the misc all the time right?

i guess you've never heard of WSHH before

[SteamedHams]

however just because the video makes you angry does not mean he is guilty of every charge imaginable. there is a lot of stupidity ITT 'hurr derp charge him with murder', 'derp camera guy is guilty too', just because it is fkd up or unethical, does not make it illegal, and even if charges are brought, does not mean they can be proven beyond a doubt.

Where did you get your law degree? Your analysis terrible.

[BrotatoChip]

Lets be 100 as can be

If a cop did this to a random gang banger who was "resisting" he would get a paid vacation......errr I mean suspended with pay

Good thing to know we have true misc heroes standing up for the gang bangers and other assorted low-lifes.

[sloan51]

i guess you've never heard of WSHH before

I could be wrong but please, share a link of something this bad. I've seen many WSHH videos posted here, on ********, and I've been to the site. Can't think of anything where the beating goes on this long when one person is literally out cold.

[spastick08]

ive literally never seen a video on the misc where someone punched an unconscious body for a minute or more. see it where theres a few punches after the KO but nothing to this extent.

Then the guy walked away and came back and resumed. Also tried to attack the guys wife in his car.

We see this on the misc all the time right?

THIS, identical videos my ass

I've never once seen a guy hit that many times after the KO

[FitnessJake]

Lets be 100 as can be

If a cop did this to a random gang banger who was "resisting" he would get a paid vacation......errr I mean suspended with pay and would still be able to collect a pension at 50 draining the tax payers of $$$ til he passes away

Strong support of gang bangers, *******.

[nwoDmlaC]

I think a lot of you are missing my point here. the dude is fkn scum and needs to never be a free man again. period. cop or no cop, you can't do that to another person, whatever the cop did to the guy did not warrant that type of beating.

however just because the video makes you angry does not mean he is guilty of every charge imaginable. there is a lot of stupidity ITT 'hurr derp charge him with murder', 'derp camera guy is guilty too', just because it is fkd up or unethical, does not make it illegal, and even if charges are brought, does not mean they can be proven beyond a doubt.

I think your missing the point here, most people in this thread are saying the camera man deserves this and that because hes a piece of sht (laughing at a man being almost beaten to death). not because they genuinely think hes going to be charged with these crimes.

[Cootz4DuhSloots]

You are wrong. Premeditation isn't an element of murder either at common law or in any state statute. The mens rea is intent to kill, which can be formed mere moments before the action is taken.

You're right, but it's still practically impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. It would take some very persuasive legal arguments that I can't come up with myself to prove he had an intention to kill. That's why they usually don't seek attempted murder unless it's premeditated. Because attempted murder is just as hard to prove as murder. Remember GZ? They couldn't prove intent because there was no premeditation, hence, no murder conviction. Premeditation proves it beyond a reasonable doubt.

Happy to be proved wrong with some specific cases Misc Lawyer

[YesWayNoWeigh]

Wonder how many racial comments were made itt, prob none lol. Hope the guys ok though

[Cootz4DuhSloots]

Wonder how many racial comments were made itt, prob none lol. Hope the guys ok though

None directed at white folk because white folk don't have any unfortunate violent stereotypes. Good observation.

[WeDoPullups]

Officer Mohamed Deen is stable and ok.

source?

[Kraxses]

I live in NYC and i want all cops to be like soliders srs, certain area's where everybody is _______, are ****ing zoo's and should be blocked off from the city.

[SteamedHams]

You're right, but it's still practically impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. It would take some very persuasive legal arguments that I can't come up with myself to prove he had an intention to kill. That's why they usually don't seek attempted murder unless it's premeditated. Because attempted murder is just as hard to prove as murder. Remember GZ? They couldn't prove intent because there was no premeditation, hence, no murder conviction. Premeditation proves it beyond a reasonable doubt.

Happy to be proved wrong with some specific cases Misc Lawyer

He punched an unconscious man like sixty times in the head. More than enough evidence to satisfy the intent element. Also consider the fact that New York's second degree murder statute states that someone can also be guilty of murder when "Under circumstances evincing a depraved indifference to human life, he recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to another person, and thereby causes the death of another person." It doesn't even need to necessarily be intentional, though in my opinion they could go that route if they wanted.

Your GZ comparison is not on point. They lost because of a self-defense argument. The elements of murder or any of its lesser included offenses were there, but an affirmative defense beats any charge.

[FlexLex]

You're right, but it's still practically impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. It would take some very persuasive legal arguments that I can't come up with myself to prove he had an intention to kill. That's why they usually don't seek attempted murder unless it's premeditated. Because attempted murder is just as hard to prove as murder. Remember GZ? They couldn't prove intent because there was no premeditation, hence, no murder conviction. Premeditation proves it beyond a reasonable doubt.

Happy to be proved wrong with some specific cases Misc Lawyer

Age: 20. The reason you can not come up with them is because you are 20 years old and not a prosecutor by profession.

[FlexLex]

source?

Thats a picture of the ***git not the cop

[SteamedHams]

None directed at white folk because white folk don't have any unfortunate violent stereotypes. Good observation.

Funny, you should come to my 95% white county and watch court for a while, you may reconsider that position. If you piled all the meth heads and trailer trash that I represent into high rises and projects you'd see the exact same things happening. The only difference is my clients have to drive a couple miles to commit a burglary or beat the **** out of someone. If they lived right on top of one another like people do in ghettos, it would be just as much of a zoo. Poverty, lack of education, drugs and alcohol, and ****ty parenting has the same affect on a person whether they are white, black, brown, yellow, whatever.

[Bezzz]

Let's be real, chit like this happens on every WS video but because its a cop and an off duty one at that the topic blows up.... What about all those other kids who get sucker punched and beat near to death with little justice...

[Cootz4DuhSloots]

He punched an unconscious man like sixty times in the head. More than enough evidence to satisfy the intent element. Also consider the fact that New York's second degree murder statute states that someone can also be guilty of murder when "Under circumstances evincing a depraved indifference to human life, he recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to another person, and thereby causes the death of another person." It doesn't even need to necessarily be intentional, though in my opinion they could go that route if they wanted.

Your GZ comparison is not on point. They lost because of a self-defense argument. The elements of murder or any of its lesser included offenses were there, but an affirmative defense beats any charge.

Well, there you go. Based on the interpretation of the murder statute I'd assume (haven't done criminal yet) that the same would apply to attempted, no?

[WeDoPullups]

Thats a picture of the ***git not the cop

............source?

[Cootz4DuhSloots]

Funny, you should come to my 95% white county and watch court for a while, you may reconsider that position. If you piled all the meth heads and trailer trash that I represent into high rises and projects you'd see the exact same things happening. The only difference is my clients have to drive a couple miles to commit a burglary or beat the **** out of someone. If they lived right on top of one another like people do in ghettos, it would be just as much of a zoo. Poverty, lack of education, drugs and alcohol, and ****ty parenting has the same affect on a person whether they are white, black, brown, yellow, whatever.

I never said white people don't commit horrible levels of violence, just that they don't have the stereotype that goes with it.